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    "World class health".

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    The US has officially accused Russia of the recent DNC hacks, and trying to generally interfere with the election : https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ntial-election

    This is basically The Cold War 2.0 now, with them taking pot shots at each other.

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    After that (pretty gross) tape leak, Trump's starting pulling the Bill Clinton card.

    Someone must have told him that dragging Bill into the discourse is going to sink him, right? That's straightforward politics.

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    Not a single ticket for the debate has been assigned to students yet. I guess those 7 million it apparently cost to put the thing together are really worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    That's straightforward politics.
    Which part of Trump's bizarre ascent has followed conventional wisdom?

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    I would really like Russia's youth to get it's shit together.

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    The timing of this new audiotape is great.


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    Yeah, he's done alright. There's no way his reputation as an intellectual and political heavyweight survives him talking shit once.

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    Absolutely nobody would have thought that was Trump's attitude to women before these comments. What a shock.

    Makes you wonder how all of this crap stayed buried throughout the Republican primary campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elth View Post
    Absolutely nobody would have thought that was Trump's attitude to women before these comments. What a shock.

    Makes you wonder how all of this crap stayed buried throughout the Republican primary campaign.
    Jeb Bush managed to spend 150 million dollars and not find this. Republican opposition research is weak.

    Meanwhile,


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    God I love that photo. I think I might get it framed and hang it on the wall.

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    What an absolute tit he is BOTTLING IT. He could have ridden that smug conference face to Heaven. But no. He shat the bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Jeb Bush managed to spend 150 million dollars and not find this. Republican opposition research is weak.
    The reason they didn't go after him early is that they didn't want to legitimise him as a serious candidate. They figured that as long as he came across as a joke candidate, they didn't have to worry too much. And then by the time they realised he was serious, they didn't have time left to scramble.

    So incompetence, really.

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    The Nevada thing is like something out of fiction.

    And I mean that. There's an episode of Veep called Nev-AH-da. It's literally a sitcom plot.

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    So in preparation for Election Night...

    Toggle Spoiler

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    Ah shit, a mod know how to spoiler all of that?

    Either way, just so Mert knows that he's either in for the mother of all e-victories or fails. Want some odds on the chances of that?

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    Stuck it under a spoiler as requested.

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    We've been wrong countless times before, but I really think the leak tonight crossed a line. The fallout has been different. I can't see how this doesn't lose him voters.

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    It's not even about losing voters, it's the fact that he was in desperate need of gaining some sort of momentum and this just destroys any chance of that. Suburban women are gone, and that was his demographic way to victory. There are no groups left to carry him.

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    If Trump does win, we should really hand the keys over to Mert.

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    Any support that Trump had left at this stage is going to have its head so firmly lodged in the 'it's a conspiracy against Trump' sand that nothing he says or does matters.

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    I've now gone back over to not wanting Trump to win, just so we can have a bit of fucking peace and quiet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Any support that Trump had left at this stage is going to have its head so firmly lodged in the 'it's a conspiracy against Trump' sand that nothing he says or does matters.
    I don't think those numbers are likely to be enough to get him over the line. He has to win back at least one decent-sized demographic.

    I agree with Bernanke's comment on momentum, but I think he'll manufacture some after Debate #2 (town halls are more his style, I think). Or at least I thought that before today, but this story is really gaining traction, so now I'm not so sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I mean you just have to stand back and applaud that.

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    The biggest winner in this election cycle has to be Pence. Nobody's going to blame him if this all goes up in a tyre fire, and he'd never previously been considered anywhere near a top-tier Presidential candidate. He was arguably only picked as VP after all the strong options disqualified themselves. But now he'll be a near-certainty to stand next time around if Trump loses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    The biggest winner in this election cycle has to be Pence. Nobody's going to blame him if this all goes up in a tyre fire, and he'd never previously been considered anywhere near a top-tier Presidential candidate. He was arguably only picked as VP after all the strong options disqualified themselves. But now he'll be a near-certainty to stand next time around if Trump loses.
    He'll lose on the name alone. 'President Pence' is definitely a brand of chocolate coins they dish out to toddlers at the White House.

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    50 Cent, President Pence, Creflo Dollar. I just can't take America seriously anymore.

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    They were walking those big Budweiser horses on campus this morning. Cool beasts.

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    Are you saying Trump is a hypocrite?

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    He was an immature 65 year-old then. Now he's a much better person.

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    This does seem to have crossed the line. Clinton landslide, please.

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    On top of that this has come out in the week that Clinton's Wall Street speeches were released by Wikileaks. Trump supporters have been hoping for a while now that this would be the 'October Surprise' needed to bury Clinton (especially since she resisted releasing these when Sanders was a threat) and had this Trump tape come out a week earlier, I don't think the impact would have been as big but this has ensured Clinton keeps the momentum she needed.

    Case in point, Nate Silver has organised every state by importance, judging on their likelihood of casting the winning votes. Clinton is now predicted to take the first 12 of these states, Trump has a narrow lead in the 13th state, Arizona.

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    Now there are reports that Pence is considering quitting.

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    Considering he's actually evil rather than crass when it comes to women, thats a bit of a laugh.

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    It must be said it's a bit rich of Clinton to be playing the 'sexist woman hater' card when she's been enabling her husband for at least 3 decades now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    This does seem to have crossed the line. Clinton landslide, please.

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    Even his wife has condemned him

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    His wife the prostitute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    What?

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    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...r-trump-229363

    Ooof. Pence has apparently told him he's on his own for the next 48 hours, whilst there has been a MASSIVE leaking of support from the party.

    The Republicans could have won the White House, secured Congress and nailed the Supreme Court - instead they've managed to piss it all away with Trump, setting back the GOP cause by about ten years. Well done, everyone.

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    Have they all just used this as an excuse to ditch him? He's insulted women! Yeah, and Mexicans. And Muslims. And... How is this worse?

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    "I will build a wall to keep these out." is a little less severe than, "I will finger this cunt against her will."

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    I suspect they wouldn't be ditching him if he was three points ahead in the polls, but given the downward spiral his campaign is in it gives them and excuse to disassociate themselves from him and try to save themselves from being associated with it.

    I think this is clearly 'worse' than the previous shite because it's not just misogynistic - he's basically advocating sexual assault.

    Even the Mormons want him to give up - http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...candidacy.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Have they all just used this as an excuse to ditch him? He's insulted women! Yeah, and Mexicans. And Muslims. And... How is this worse?
    I agree that it's in the same ballpark as a number of other terrible things he's said, although unrepentant sexual assault is probably pushing it out slightly to a new low. But Republicans expect their candidates to say terrible things about Muslims, while taking the high road on things like "traditional morality".

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    Apparently there are two more oppo-research stories coming, one equal to this one and one that's worse. Wanna take bets? I'm torn between it being him on tape either using the n-word or admitting to statutory rape.

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    Bush Snr, Clinton 1, Bush Jnr, accidental race related hiatus (the German World Cup), Clinton 2 unopposed.

    I guess that's what they fought the war of independence for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    What?
    How much outrage that video has caused. That people would care more about something he said twenty years ago as opposed to whether he would make a good president. If that does not deserve a , then I don't know what does.

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