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    It's all very well Macron lolling at America now, but what about in four years when Michelle Obama is President (Demi Moore VP) and everyone wanks over them again?

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    Trade deals are a load of bollocks anyway.

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    Macron fancies himself as some sort of European Obama circa 2008.

    Dreadful.

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    Military power is the only arena that the US US still dominant in. Economically and diplomatically they are now in serious decline.

    Unfortunately this is why we see them throwing their weight around and starting wars. They're just playing to their strenghts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GS View Post
    Macron fancies himself as some sort of European Obama circa 2008.

    Dreadful.


    Impeach the cunt.

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    Their economic decline looks reasonably comfortable.

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    They're only in relative decline, not absolute decline.

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    8:30-10:00 tonight:

    Quote Originally Posted by TVGuide.co.uk
    David Dimbleby chairs a special edition from York, as Prime Minister Theresa May and Opposition Leader Jeremy Corbyn are each quizzed on their policies. The two politicians will not debate each other directly, but will instead field questions from audience members on a consecutive basis
    Should be decent. Probably the ideal format.

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    Dimbers will die before giving up election coverage, by the looks of it.

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    Dammit, wrong thread. Politics. I was on the right track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    They're only in relative decline, not absolute decline.
    This.

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    The entire developed world is in 'relative decline'. It's pretty irrelevant. Particularly since China is still decades away from having comparable wealth, rather than just loads of foreign currencies burning a hole in their pocket.

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    What is the issue if they have comparable wealth anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    Military power is the only arena that the US US still dominant in. Economically and diplomatically they are now in serious decline.

    Unfortunately this is why we see them throwing their weight around and starting wars. They're just playing to their strenghts.
    Outside of the last sentence this is identical to Trump's analysis of the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    What is the issue if they have comparable wealth anyway?
    Because then they are an actual rival (for the people that care about that, like the 'trade on their terms' people). Their economic strength is still somewhat precarious so long as they're just churning out shit for other people to buy.

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    What does being a 'rival' entail? How does having a rival affect Joe Sixpack?

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    I don't suppose it does.

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    Isn't shit countries having more money better for the US, if anything? I bet if you gave some money to the people of Tanzania they would burn it all on cheeseburgers and muscle cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    What does being a 'rival' entail? How does having a rival affect Joe Sixpack?
    Doesn't, I'm strictly speaking of the government if that is not clear. Well, in respect to trade deals if you are a farmer in Iowa could matter a great deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    Isn't shit countries having more money better for the US, if anything? I bet if you gave some money to the people of Tanzania they would burn it all on cheeseburgers and muscle cars.
    It will now President Donald J. Trump is keeping manufacturing in America.

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    Don't forget all those mines opening.

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    Exactly. You can't have muscle cars under pussy liberal globalist climate acts.

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    Or meat for that matter.

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    Good luck in France boiling straw with candles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    It will now President Donald J. Trump is keeping manufacturing in America.
    So we are selling them ties made in China?

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    Presumably ties are so cheap to make that the majority of their value as Trump ties is down to the Trump branding. So you're giving money to China so that they can make even more money for America. That's like meta-winning.

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    And I've been meaning to ask, who exactly is Louise Mensch? Miloesque grifter or paranoid schizophrenic?

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    Both. She is too useless to be putting it all on, but just useless enough to think that really going for it gives her credibility.

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    http://www.spiegel.de/international/...a-1150486.html

    German press pulls no punches.

    Surrounded by sycophants in the Rose Garden at the White House, he didn't just proclaim his withdrawal from the climate agreement, he sowed the seeds of international conflict. His speech was a break from centuries of Enlightenment and rationality. The president presented his political statement as a nationalist manifesto of the most imbecilic variety. It couldn't have been any worse.

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    And here lies the issue with such agreements:

    Yet international agreement on the Paris accord was only possible because it contains no punitive tools at all. The only thing signatories must do is report every five years how much progress they have made toward achieving their self-identified climate protection measures.

    Therein lies the absurdity of Trump's histrionics. Nothing would have been easier for the U.S. than to take part pro forma in United Nations climate-related negotiations while completely ignoring climate protection measures at home -- which Trump has been doing anyway since his election.
    So it is all about him daring to challenge Merkel, Trudeau, and Macron (and Pepsi and Exxon and...) Not that I think that not giving a fuck about the environment is ok, but the agreement is a bit of a sham. The Germans are pissed of because the only thing they want is that everyone falls in line with what they say.

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    The Germans would do well to stop flexing their influence muscles and begin hitting the targets they promised they would in their beloved agreement.

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    Top law firms refusing to take Trump's case because "he won't pay and he won't listen".

    Amazing.

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    Sessions has offered his resignation.

    There can't ever have been a more chaotic regime at the helm of a civilised country.

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    Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, please.

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    James Comey Testimony On President Trump & Russia Probe 6/8/17


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    Good start - he doesn't appear to be holding back.

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    This is better than the new season of House of Cards.

    Comey seems pissed.

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    In the British or the American sense?

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    Oh look, Marco Rubio being a little cunty sniveling twatbag.

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    Little Marco.

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    As the saying goes, if your life depends on Rubio having a spine. You're already dead. What a bitch.

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    The Republican Obama they said.

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    My game of "Guess the political party based on what they look like" is going well so far. something like 4/5.

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    Re; the hearing yesterday - it seemed to me that they had clearly been paid off not to talk. It was like watching film - it seemed so fucking obvious. Am I missing something?

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    Every (R) question:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernanke View Post
    Every (R) question:
    Yup. McCain is embarrassing himself here.

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    McCain: "I don't understand."

    Comey: "Yes, sir."

    McCain: "President Comey, errr, uhhhh--"

    Comey: "...no, sir."

    McCain: "I don't understand."

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    McCain's approach is "You found Clinton innocent, why aren't you finding Trump innocent? Waaa, waaaaa"

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    It all sounds like a bit of a bust if the reaction is 'how it looks'. You do know Donald Trump is the President? I don't think it matters how things look to people like you anymore.

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    Oh God can feel @Mert erection from here.

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