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    It's straight out of Harolds stormfront copy/paste posts. They've been banging on about it for years because they think it's the perfect gotcha.

    'Look this liberal bastion where people have free education, free access to health services and a high standard of living and the ethnics are destroying it'

    All the while ignoring the U.S. has none of these things and saying Socialism is evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    The easiest way for Sweden to counter all of this stuff (and no doubt better inform official responses) would be to start recording who commits crimes, so it's pretty pathetic that they refuse to do so.
    It's fine to record most demographic aspects, IMO, so long as the target of doing so is to understand sociological reasons behind why and how crime is committed in order to better try to combat it as a society. However, ethnicity as such is not directly relevant, as we know (where you come from geographically, and how you were raised, perhaps, but not your skin colour for instance).

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    Sexual Harassment is a rape crime in Sweden rather than Harassment. It's incredibly broad.
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    Yes and no. You're right in that they widened the legislation around it some years ago and that lead to an increase in the statistics. However, Rape and Sexual Harassment are still different things in Swedish legislation. We have something at least we call "Sexual exploitation" or something a bit like that, and what they did was move some of the cases that previously had fallen under that category into Rape, for instance having sex with someone who is unconscious (against their will).

    Sexual harassment is more stuff like acting inappropriately towards someone at work or slapping someone on the privates (rather than anywhere else, where it would just be "Harassment").

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    So rape then.

    But please phonics tell us more about how Swedish police are classing looking at a woman as 'rape'.


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    The thing that is oddest about the loonie right is their predilection for fucking weird hair. Geert Wilders is the champion.

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    Meanwhile, the lols continue


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    I hadn't been keeping up with Milo lately. I just saw a picture of his newest look and it looks like he's fallen headfirst into a Hot Topic from 2005.


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    He's been advocating paedophilia too, apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    The thing that is oddest about the loonie right is their predilection for fucking weird hair. Geert Wilders is the champion.
    It's doubly odd because he's actually lifted it right out of a computer game.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    Yes and no. You're right in that they widened the legislation around it some years ago and that lead to an increase in the statistics. However, Rape and Sexual Harassment are still different things in Swedish legislation. We have something at least we call "Sexual exploitation" or something a bit like that, and what they did was move some of the cases that previously had fallen under that category into Rape, for instance having sex with someone who is unconscious (against their will).

    Sexual harassment is more stuff like acting inappropriately towards someone at work or slapping someone on the privates (rather than anywhere else, where it would just be "Harassment").
    Ah apologies, I inferred from the use of 'passive' that it was about non-violent sexual crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    So rape then.

    But please phonics tell us more about how Swedish police are classing looking at a woman as 'rape'.

    Yeah, but I guess it all depends. For instance before the law change I think they required actual penetration to take place for it to be classified as Rape, whereas now they judge it on the "level of degradation" or some such. Take from that what you will, but I think it's meant to avoid for loopholes where people have done some horrible stuff to women without actually sticking it in. From what I gather though, it's not necessarily meant a higher rate of convictions though (perhaps just as a consequence of more cases). Some law-expert claimed it was probably due to the grey-zone being widened and more being up to calling individual cases one by one.

    Personally, I hate the whole topic. Because I'm so torn between how I want rapists to get severely punished and feel like they mostly aren't, and how also I understand how it is immensely hard to prove whether there was consent or not in a lot of cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Ah apologies, I inferred from the use of 'passive' that it was about non-violent sexual crimes.
    Yeah well it's just the wrong words for you meaning something else I suppose.

    In Sweden, at least, Sexual Harassment is not actually part of the "Sex crimes" part of the legislation but falls under "Discriminatory crimes", for whatever reason. Basically Harassment cases as a whole are not all that severe in Swedish law. Dunno if it's different in the UK for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    Yeah, but I guess it all depends. For instance before the law change I think they required actual penetration to take place for it to be classified as Rape, whereas now they judge it on the "level of degradation" or some such. Take from that what you will, but I think it's meant to avoid for loopholes where people have done some horrible stuff to women without actually sticking it in. From what I gather though, it's not necessarily meant a higher rate of convictions though (perhaps just as a consequence of more cases). Some law-expert claimed it was probably due to the grey-zone being widened and more being up to calling individual cases one by one.

    Personally, I hate the whole topic. Because I'm so torn between how I want rapists to get severely punished and feel like they mostly aren't, and how also I understand how it is immensely hard to prove whether there was consent or not in a lot of cases.
    Personally I'd class any sort of sexual assault as rape, to be honest. But it's good to see phonics will sacrifice the sanctity of the female body just to toe his liberal line.

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    What are you talking about?

    edit: Not sure why I'm even asking, the follow-up is going to no doubt be similarly moronic as any time Magic tries to get involved in anything more complicated than plugging an ethernet cable in.

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    Tail firmly between legs.

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    Considering you're running from the question I'm going to take that as a description of self. You're really shit at attempting to be Harold, you always have been. Just move on.

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    tl;dr

    phonics claimed something wholly inaccurate
    I refuted it and backed it up with hard evidence
    Maz donned phonics
    MJ donned phonics

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    You're terrible at this. At least edit a link into your first post if you're going to try be good at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Personally I'd class any sort of sexual assault as rape, to be honest. But it's good to see phonics will sacrifice the sanctity of the female body just to toe his liberal line.
    Sexual assault is the overarching category in Swedish law that Rape is in (it's the worst kind of Sexual Assault), but they also have stuff like showing your cock for someone in an alley, which I wouldn't say is Rape exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    Sexual assault is the overarching category in Swedish law that Rape is in (it's the worst kind of Sexual Assault), but they also have stuff like showing your cock for someone in an alley, which I wouldn't say is Rape exactly.
    That's sexual harassment surely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    That's sexual harassment surely.
    Nope, like I said above, Harassment is a different branch of Law where you can harass people in various ways. The definition in Swedish is akin to "Behaviour that infringes on someones dignity connected to one of the discriminatory grounds (gender, ethnicity, religion...etc etc etc) [...]".

    It falls under Laws around discrimination and is based on you doing this or that towards someone because they are something or believe something, usually in the workplace or other public space. It's a bit vague, and I think it's being implemented in a wider way where it doesn't necessarily have to be connected to discrimination.

    But in short - if you go and touch the bum of your hot receptionist for instance, it would fall into that (that would specifically be sexual harassment, whereas if you just called her a daft c**t, that might be classified as just harassment). If you show her your cock, it would have been Sexual Assault (if she'd indeed notice it). And if you beat her, tie her up and stick it up her nostril, that would be rape.

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    Thanks, so I'm even more correct than I was before.

    phonics must be really crawling under that rock now.

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    Apart from the fact that I was still right and apologised for the part that I got wrong. I'm fine mate. We don't all go into a tailspin the moment a blade of grass falls on us.

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    That for cleaning yourself up during your next visit to the airport? I'd use a thicker ply.

    Meanwhile,


    I want to die.

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    We also would like that.

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    Paraphrasing off something I saw on Twitter, but why is The President getting his info from Fox News when he has the entire intelligence service at his disposal? He's just a stupid old fucker with minimal critical thinking faculties

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    Paraphrasing off something I saw on Twitter, but why is The President getting his info from Fox News when he has the entire intelligence service at his disposal? He's just a stupid old fucker with minimal critical thinking faculties
    So you would rather he shared sensitive / confidential intelligence instead? What?

    Sweden is an utter shambles. You can't twist your self in pretzels about how the definition accounts for a higher number of reported rapes, but the historically unprecedented explosion year over year of whatever reported number you want to rely on, has coincided almost entirely with increases in immigration.

    You guys are so so delusional it's unreal. There is a problem. It's just a matter of how much more damage you are willing to wreak on your socities before you are forced to take steps to find a solution. And the more you wait, the more difficult and costly that solution will be.

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    So what you're saying is that we need some sort of final solution?

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    These Somalian lads are probably just grabbing them by the pussy and stupid liberal Sweden is classing that alpha behaviour as rape.

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    I love that, according to Mert, the alternative to the President getting his information from cable news outlets is the President giving them information.

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    This Milo shitweasel has been bigging up the peado massive: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...c-online-video

    Absolute fruitcake

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    Milking the cow like no other.

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    I don't know why it's relevant what 'Milo' thinks, or why I have to hear about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I don't know why it's relevant what 'Milo' thinks, or why I have to hear about it.
    Free speech!

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    It sounds like a whole lot of nothing, but you would have to lol if it was some stuffy conservatives that brought him down rather than the leftists who have done nothing but CHIMP OUT about him for what seems like years.

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    See phonics is still seething about being owned and also swimming upstream with regards to the middle east. He must be in de nile lol.

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    His publisher deciding that now is the time to ditch him makes them look pretty special.

    'We paid you to write us a controversial book, not to get go around saying controversial things.'

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    I'm not usually on board with Harold comparisons, but continually posting about how you've 'owned' someone when you've done nothing of the sort is a very Harold behaviour.

    Tell us you're running riot, Magic. Go on.

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    Paedo stuff is such a grey area, until an actual crime has been committed at least, and yet it's the only thing that seems to unite the outrage merchants on right and left in absolute zealous fury.

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    The comments sound like the sort of thing that if Martin Amis (or some other 'respectable' weirdo) said them everybody would just shrug their shoulders and move on, so this will more than likely just give him even more of what he craves.

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    Bloody hell.

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    I saw a great comment the other day that Alex Jones had become the dull pundit and the Clinton-wing had turned into Infowars. He was way better when the water was turning frogs gay.

    edit: Milo's lost his book deal and is having his speech at CPAC cancelled lol. Funny what you can get in trouble for. Calling trans people mentally disabled and telling women to kill themselves, saying more black people are in jail because they're genetically predisposed to commit crime is just edgy apparently.

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    Must be the new hairstyle. Should have stuck to blond.

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    Who the absolute fuck is that Milo cunt and why is he prominent in my Twitter feed?

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    Your new right wing persona is coming along well then.

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    tfw even the Nazis think you're a cunt


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    Where does Milo go now? Banished to Johann Hari's pederasty lair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    tfw
    Kill this utter cuntery with fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Where does Milo go now? Banished to Johann Hari's pederasty lair?
    Back to where it all started for him as a humble tech blogger, the Gamers and their gates.

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