The Pakistani government doesn't have much of a handle on anything. It's an idiotic policy.
AND YET, the people crying over it is seriously lol. No need to talk about Owen 'Venezuela' Jones claiming that Theresa May now has to 'own' everything America does, or Justin Trudeau embarrassing the species yet again; Pepe, how come you never told us what a tolerant, welcoming, tolerant, free-for-all of tolerance America was for outsiders until yesterday?
I'm not a May fan but she's done very well on this. Not pissed him off, but also not joined his crusade. It's called diplomacy and you have to do that, and not virtue signalling, when you're running an actual country.
What would Metternich have done? Something similar, probably.
Everyone is throwing his Cuba/IRA-loving up at him; but lmao, losers, he was never neutral there, was he? And people actually call him a shit politician.
They weren't. I have been 'detained' three times when entering the country. Still, sending people with green cards back is completely fucked up.Originally Posted by Lewis
The BBC headline on this is interesting. Not "May refuses to condemn Trump on refugees" or "May stays neutral on Trump refugee policy", but rather "May fails to condemn Trump on refugees" suggesting it's the wrong thing to do. It would almost make you agree with the SNP on BIAS.
I think she's handled this well. What business is it of ours if the Americans implement tougher controls?
And then a candidate advocating those policies was elected for President. If it's unconstitutional, it'll be struck down in the courts.
It's the same as Theresa May campaigning against a third runway at Heathrow whilst an opposition MP, but then approving it as Prime Minister. Different job, different circumstances, different priorities. It's something Wor Jez hasn't quite grasped, except when he conceded the point on wearing a red poppy.
You know who Mike Pence is, right?
Yes, and he was on the ticket where Trump advocated these policies and, you know, won. Presumably he disagreed with him in private, but you're having a laugh if you expect the VP to publicly disagree with the President on a key campaign pledge within eight days of taking office.
You don't see the hypocrisy in making that tweet and then supporting that exact policy?
Okay...
I will repeat: Presumably he disagreed with him in private, but you're having a laugh if you expect the VP to publicly disagree with the President on a key campaign pledge within eight days of taking office.
What are you expecting, exactly?
People probably EXPECT hypocrisy, but that's no reason not to point it out.
I understand his position, rather than thinking he's inherently evil for not speaking out. He's not in a position to, and if we held everybody to past statements then you'd be denouncing your mate Jezza as a terrorist sympathiser rather than glossing over it and celebrating his message's success by tweet count.
The real hypocrisy here will be the Democrats who claim that Trump is abusing the constitution by issuing executive orders that over-reach his authority. It's pretty much what Obama did to circumvent Congress when he couldn't do what he wanted, but that was 'brushed over' by the Democrats because they agreed with what he was trying to do. If this proves anything, it's that the American system of directly electing the head of government and attempting to keep him in check via the legislative branches is a bit of fool's errand. He'd never have survived in Westminster because he'd never have lasted long enough in the Commons, never mind won the leadership, never mind been in a position to command the confidence of the house.
Apologies, it must be unfortunate when your own hypocrisy is cited and undermines your moral outrage.
Apparently students with (previously, I suppose) valid visas who went home to the BANNED countries over the winter holidays are being denied re-entry to the country.
Lol. What a country.
EDIT: There's also an Iranian footballer in the second tier of 'soccer' who can't play his teams away matches in Canada because he wouldn't be allowed back into the US
How in the name of fuck does this order apply to people already living and working in the country?
Was the wording not clear?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN15C0KX
It's just amazing.
Calm down, idiots. It's all in hand.
They should all keep retweeting each other, I reckon. That'll solve everything.
Also, THIS is why we should not have either a written constitution or an elected head of state.
Written Consitutions are ok as long as they are not five pages long and you update them once in a while.
Lollest part is that these cunts don't even have a terrorism problem. Paranoid bitches.
Maybe you should give them one. Then they will ban foreign engineers, which will make holidays cheaper for Magic.
Relax. He's spending more on defense for those wars he's not going to fight overseas.
It was all too clear, and intended to deport many such people.
Fortunately Trump has just learned that he isn't above the law. I wonder what will happen if/when he starts criticising the judiciary on Twitter.
Well, he's been as bad as his word so far. I don't want to jump to Hitler comparisons but...
The Hitler comparisons are and always will be (almost up until the point he starts exterminating people) fucking stupid.
It all plays into my theory that he's just going to get bored. Or others that he'll be shot. Bored or shot.
It could all be quite clever, on one hand.
I'll be very interested in seeing how they deal with abortion. Republicans know that it's a ticket to 40% of the vote in every single election, so they have no incentive whatsoever to change to status quo. Trump himself clearly does not care about it even a little bit. But on the other hand, there's not much to stop them from doing things at this point, so if they don't do quite a lot, it'll be held against them.“In seizing a state, the usurper ought to examine closely into all those injuries which it is necessary for him to inflict, and to do them all at one stroke, so as not to have to repeat them daily. Thus by not unsettling men he will be able to reassure them, and win them to himself through subsequent benefits.”
I suspect there are a few more injuries he can inflict. Still, if he carries on like this he'll just get impeached, so twitter should be partying really.
I hope you at least had the decency to blush when you wrote that.
If he does get impeached who takes over? The VP?
Yep. Ford took over after Watergate.
I think you heavily over-estimate the amount of spine that your average congressman/senator holds.
Isn't Pence a lunatic as well?
Massively. And he's half competent with his evilness as well which would be worrying.
Is Pence the 'funerals for aborted feotuses' guy? They should have made some Rock & Hard Place bumper stickers for the campaign.
I believe that was Texas. He does believe in electro shock therapy for gay people though.
edit: Oh wait
That wasn’t the case for a similar law in Indiana signed by Vice President-elect Mike Pence earlier this year. That law, which was later blocked by a judge, was so poorly written that it could have technically required women to cremate or bury their menstrual blood. (The law, which also included a ban on abortions based on the fetus’s race, sex, or “disability,” was blocked because it unconstitutionally restricted a woman’s choices in seeking abortion.)
fu kin ell
I know we all have differing opinions on things but stuff like this just defies logic, how on earth does someone reach a position like that?
President Pence. God. He'd probably try and ban the gays on day one.
India fully banned homosexuality a couple of years ago as the law was a bit loose before. There are plenty of countries tightening up on that stuff (no pun intended, though it might do them some good).
What the fuck.
That's amazing
To be fair, couldn't any old organisation set that up? I'd be surprised (actually, probably not) if it had anything to do with Trump's team.
http://petitionmap.unboxedconsulting...etition=171928
You can set your watch by these things.
It's the only reason I know where Oxford and Cambridge are on the map.
#MuslimBan is a somewhat disingenuous way of looking at it.
The now-ubiquitious Ed Miliband really has a new lease of life this week as well.
Sir Mo Farah can't see his kids.
There exist provisions in the order for the general ban to be over-ridden:
I'm not saying it's not a shocker of a policy, by the way. It is, if for no other reason than it won't work.(g) Notwithstanding a suspension pursuant to subsection (c) of this section or pursuant to a Presidential proclamation described in subsection (e) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may, on a case-by-case basis, and when in the national interest, issue visas or other immigration benefits to nationals of countries for which visas and benefits are otherwise blocked.
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