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    It was said last time round Trump is influenced by the last person he talked to, even if that is the exact opposite of what he was thinking prior. Maybe it's just more extreme now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Hang on, I thought 'we'd' already put large scale sanctions on Russia? If we have but there are other large scale sanctions that could have been employed what the fuck have we been doing for the last three years? I thought the only plan we had was:

    1: Sanctions
    2: ????
    3. War ends

    Jesus wept.
    I would imagine America could lean on Russia's biggest post sanctions supporters if they really wanted to, or, you know, nuke the oil price for lolz, which is probably something Donald would be in favour of. As he said himself though, his policy decisions are based on things that ONLY HE KNOWS so good luck trying to second guess them.

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    He's going after Japan now.

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    Are we the only ones to get away with this? Keir might not actually be all that bad.

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    With regards to Russia, have the Kremlin responded to Don yet? I guess the tone of that response will indicate how quickly they’re willing to settle this now Ukraine are back at the table.

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    The circle that needs squaring is that Russia will concede nothing, so the only way to force peace, as per the promise, is to essentially ensure a capitulation from Ukraine on Russian terms, but this will massively piss off / alienate / sour relations with Europe which might seem like a fun thing to do from a lol Make America Great Again perspective but in reality is really quite bad for America as Europe has a lot more to offer economically than the other side of the argument where Trump and hs crew think they more naturally sit. It almost feels like we're back at an immediately post-2008 place with 'America' thinking the only thing valuable in the world is the ability to dig stuff out of the ground, which really isn't the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Are we the only ones to get away with this? Keir might not actually be all that bad.
    I'm not sure Donald not going after you is a marker of you being good.

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    Plus, what would he Tariff? Shortbread? We don't make anything.

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    A quick google has our biggest exports as machinery (keep those sales numbers up, Jimmy), computers and precious metals.

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    Occupancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    He's already bottled the Tariffs - no doubt due to Pepe's threats - against Mexico and Canada. Let's not make the mistake of believing anything the deranged cunt says. He makes his mind up on a minute by minute basis.
    The ones against Mexico were postponed because they made a really big graph with 'line go down' and Trumps name. It's that easy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    The ones against Mexico were postponed because they made a really big graph with 'line go down' and Trumps name. It's that easy.

    That sounds like something that exactly happened.

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    I'll bow to your limitless ignorance on the matter.

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    I liked the theory that Trump keeps applying and then lifting the Mexico tariffs just cause he likes Claudia and wants a chat. Like the playground bully knocking over sandcastles and pulling pigtails.

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    Starmer waved a big shiny Letter from the King under his nose and he loved it, he's comically easy to manipulate.

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    Trump on the Irish: “They’re a great people. And they voted for me in heavy numbers so I like them even more. You have to like them. You know, you’re not supposed to but you have to like them.”

    "You're not supposed to but you have to" is one of the funniest things I've heard from a President.

    edit: shit i got got. fake.

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    I know he's never been a fan of Wall Street, but tanking the American economy is another gambit I didn't necessarily have down on the first 100 days of Trump's presidency bingo card.

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    No no, this is Biden's economy and his fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    No no, this is Biden's economy and his fault.
    Exactly, but the 2016 economy that he took over was all him.

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    This Tesla promotion event.





    Deeply unserious country.
    Last edited by Bernanke; 11-03-2025 at 09:33 PM.

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    Living in super Tory Malvern, the sheet amount of Teslas I see with bumper stickers along the lines of 'I bought it before I knew he was a nazi' has been surprising.

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    There's a group of Russian military guys who post on Telegram that have a lot of influence in the Kremlin, and safe to say they are not entertaining this US-negotiated ceasefire at all. If Putin agrees to the ceasefire, he'll have a bit of a shit storm in-house.

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    I’m bracing myself for a barrage of “Trump hasn’t done anything, as it won’t be lasting peace”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I’m bracing myself for a barrage of “Trump hasn’t done anything, as it won’t be lasting peace”.
    The left will fully support a deal as long as Ukraine agree to it, and Russia abide it. If Trump can pull this off, all credit to the absolute cretin.

    EDIT: Of course there are mongs on both sides who will still disagree with anything the "opposition" achieve.

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    But what Ben said is the key thing, do Russia want to stop and will they abide by it. It's all good having Ukraine agree (which is an achievement considering they're giving up their land) but Russia are not a reliable partner.

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    This will have been a whole lot of theatre if Russia just say lol no thanks.

    I assume they won't, and risk having angry Donald on the other team, but will rather 'agree' and then just go maximalist with their demands in establishing a peace which won't actually hold in the long run.

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    Yeah, I reckon Putin will agree eventually. They're just having to work out how to spin it domestically so the Z lot don't revolt.

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    I'm pretty sure he could 'sell' anything to the Russian people, I mean, what are they going to do? Also, all of our objectives have been met, even if they haven't, is what will be sold, so pretty easy sell to a feckless, disparate and entirely useless population.

    Only problem will be how to go about a rapprochement with Europe to prevent their economy from further collapsing. Are Germany really going to just turn the gas taps back on?

    Can't help but think that, in the long term, this peace will be enormously damaging to both the US and Russia.

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    Germany will be gagging to turn the gas taps back on. There are large men called Hans beating off at night to the thought of it as we speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    But what Ben said is the key thing, do Russia want to stop and will they abide by it. It's all good having Ukraine agree (which is an achievement considering they're giving up their land) but Russia are not a reliable partner.
    And it starts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Germany will be gagging to turn the gas taps back on. There are large men called Hans beating off at night to the thought of it as we speak.
    100%.

    VW licking their lips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Germany will be gagging to turn the gas taps back on. There are large men called Hans beating off at night to the thought of it as we speak.
    Given that desire to turn the taps back on, one does have to wonder how Europe have been so utterly useless at dealing with this and a perma-tanned chimp who is widely regarded as incompetent can rock up and seemingly make more ground in a matter of weeks than everyone else combined has in 3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    And it starts...
    What starts?

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    Putin will agree then send a blue and yellow painted drone to Moscow after two weeks and claim the Ukrainians broke it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Living in super Tory Malvern, the sheet amount of Teslas I see with bumper stickers along the lines of 'I bought it before I knew he was a nazi' has been surprising.
    I hated the turbosperg before it was fashionable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    There's a group of Russian military guys who post on Telegram that have a lot of influence in the Kremlin, and safe to say they are not entertaining this US-negotiated ceasefire at all. If Putin agrees to the ceasefire, he'll have a bit of a shit storm in-house.
    That's been his problem from the outset, the war was a solution to other issues and he will only want a way out that doesn't look like backing down. Either he manages to strike a deal and appease his detractors at home or he picks some things to whinge about and blames Ukraine for scuppering the deal so he can save face and carry on. Lucky for him that Trump is a moron, compromised, or both and will happily hand over whatever he asks for.

    For anyone enjoying a good laugh at Musk watch the most awkward geek in the world struggle through the softest questions imaginable, I actually thought he was going to start crying at one point.


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    Remember when Prigozhin and his mercenaries were marching on Moscow and then they just stopped? That was mad.

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    All part of the plan mate.

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    Trump throwing a tantrum at being tariffed is pretty lol.

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    Putin hasn't told US-Ukraine to fuck off straight out of the gate, which I kind of expected him to. Obviously he's making demands but considering the situation right now, he'll probably get most of them. There'll be a lot of to-and-fro but I reckon this ends in the next few months with Ukraine bent over a barrel.

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    Has Felon really just retweeted a post on Xitter blaming public sector workers for genocides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Putin hasn't told US-Ukraine to fuck off straight out of the gate, which I kind of expected him to. Obviously he's making demands but considering the situation right now, he'll probably get most of them. There'll be a lot of to-and-fro but I reckon this ends in the next few months with Ukraine bent over a barrel.
    That's how they always operate though. Don't say no, just hold the line on the demands you're making and wait for the other side to flinch and start negotiating with themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Putin hasn't told US-Ukraine to fuck off straight out of the gate, which I kind of expected him to. Obviously he's making demands but considering the situation right now, he'll probably get most of them. There'll be a lot of to-and-fro but I reckon this ends in the next few months with Ukraine bent over a barrel.
    The Western press reporting on it was crap compared to what he actually said in Russian, which effectively was an unchanged position of "of course we want peace, our fundamental problem is not having control of Ukraine. Solve it for me, and there'll be no war.".

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    White House press secretary on the suggestion that maybe the United States should give the Statue of Liberty back to France, presumably on the basis of them no longer wanting your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

    “And my advice to that unnamed low-level French politician would be to remind them that it’s only because of the United States of America that the French are not speaking German right now,”

    “So, they should be very grateful to our great country.”


    Should probably be thanking the Japanese really.

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    The historical illiteracy of the American ruling class is just one of the many attractive things about them.

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    Undefeated back to back World War champions mate.

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    Shame about the Asian Competitions.

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    My in-law would be speaking English if it wasn't for the Americans.

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