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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I think there's a slightly romantic tendency among some of the more 'realist' observers to view Russia as its 19th century imperial self, or as the Soviet Union at the peak of its powers, or as the great Russian bear, or whatever, rather than the kleptocrat gangster state that it actually is. There is absolutely no guarantee that anything about it will survive Putin's personal rule.
    I think there's some truth to that theory but not in the direction most people seem to think. Apart from about half an hour in 1945 when they got to fight half dead nazi pensioners and children they've always been a shit show, I'm yet to find a single competently executed military action in their entire history.

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    We (the West) should scale a full invasion.

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    Alright Keir.

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    Waiting for the 'Russian lives matter' narrative to take off online, instigated by Trump and Putin.

    What a mess.

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    If there's one thing the West and Russia have always agreed upon, it's that Russian lives very much do not matter.

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    Make Russia Great.

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    Still lolling about them bringing in North Korean reinforcements only for the slav mercenaries to introduce them to tik tok and online porn, reducing their effectiveness to zero.

    I read a similar thing about some recently contacted jungle tribes bemoaning since they were given the internet all the young men have sacked off firewood collecting etc in favour of watching big plastic american tits bouncing about all day.
    Last edited by Lofty; 02-03-2025 at 09:35 AM.

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    From preindustrial to end-stage capitalism in the stroke of a wank. That's some zeitgeist shift.

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    US military aid to Ukraine now paused.

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    Rather ironic that a nation that wouldn't exist without foreign intervention is now led by people so venal and short sighted it no longer sees the value in doing the same thing itself.

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    Tariffs on too. Tanking the US economy and world standing in less than 2 months. What a guy.

    Taking away the big stick is another thing which makes no sense to me. Both ends of the outcome scale are bad. Either Ukraine collapses and Russia gets what you wanted [all their stuff], or it doesn't, and people question the value of the big stick.

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    Presumably it ends up with four or five new nuclear powers, which can't be a great idea. He's chirping at the head of the Fed about interest rates now as well, if he ends up sacking him and putting another Richard Madeley type in charge then you suddenly have an economy in recession that nobody has any confidence in. It'll be about forty quid an egg by then and they'll have emptied the treasury bailing out farmers (again) and buying up all the wanker-coin. Amazing how quickly it can be done really, makes Liz Truss look like even more of an amateur.

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    So we're just "some random country" now. Lol.

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    Was trying to work out why the state of the union was no longer being used as a description [too woke / not woke enough?] and to be honest I still don't really understand.

    Is he gunning to announce Ukraine's unconditional surrender as part of it?

    It strikes me that if I were an American mining contractor or whatever then completely fucking over a country and then going in and overseeing the removal of all their stuff might be a somewhat fraught situation to be putting yourself in. Sounds like Iraq all over again. What could possibly go wrong?

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    Less all the allied countries that stood by you.

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    The first one in a term is never called State of the Union I don't think, a meaningless convention because it's the same thing in all but name.

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    I'm awake for the start of this so I thought I'd have a look, there's already been baseball caps, chewing gum, and chants of USA. They really do have zero class.

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    Trump bringing the Tate brothers back only for them to be immediately hit with criminal investigations stateside.

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    Cutting off intelligence sharing now as well.

    Literally couldn't go Russia's way more even if they had Medvedev installed as US president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernanke View Post
    Literally couldn't go Russia's way more even if they had Medvedev installed as US president.
    I mean they essentially do.

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    Gasoline under $2.50 per gallon today though.

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    Can someone tell me what the American national interest is here?

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    I don't think that anyone could even come up with some sort of plausible scenario.

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    Ok, how about: Europe steps up to help Ukraine, they beat the Russians. Trump calls e-victory because he forced the Europeans to step up and he saved Americans billions. Something like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    Gasoline under $2.50 per gallon today though.
    Does petrol work as a substitute for eggs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Can someone tell me what the American national interest is here?
    Isn't this all in the Trump-interest?

    ie he said he'd end the war within 1 [100] day[s], the only way to do that is to force Ukraine to effectively capitulate. Another promise delivered.

    As to the rest of it, there was a funny video going round of some Fox economics presenter woman losing her shit at some outside broadcast guy where a car dealer was saying how some truck was now going to cost 100k not 80k and so the person who had ordered it wasn't buying it. She went off one one about why Europeans don't drive giant American trucks . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Does petrol work as a substitute for eggs?
    The COVID bleach crew could well think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Does petrol work as a substitute for eggs?
    I get a dozen of eggs per week ($6 this time) at most. We probably go through 15 gallons of gasoline per week. I know which one I prefer being cheap.

    But to answer your question: they go well together.

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    15 gallons a week? That sounds a lot.

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    It's the US, we drive everywhere unfortunately.

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    $1.60 for dozen eggs here

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    And the yolk powers our scooters.

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    If the tariffs make my avocadoes expensive I will join the local protests.

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    They need eggs or they won't know how hot their car bonnets (you heard me, bonnets) are in Death Valley.

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    A bonnet is a hat.

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    Whereas the American version has no headwear link whatsoever.

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    So is a hood, really.

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    They’ve bombed South Korea by mistake.

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    It was the South Korean airforce, not the US. Although, I suspect that it is a matter of time...

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    Sounds a bit like an unintended consequence, which appears to be their government M O.

    Got to move fast and break stuff.

    Those could be 24,000 or 2,400,000 Ukrainians at the stoke of a key.

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    More should do it, it's some scam.

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    How is people fleeing war a "scam"?

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    He's properly thick.

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    All of this has to do incredible damage to the US military industrial complex ability to sell gear abroad. Who wants to own a fleet of F-35s or Patriot batteries if the US admin can just switch shit off remotely when they decide they need to bully you into submission in order to capitulate?

    Fascinating that no Lockheed Martin lobbyist has shanked Keith Kellogg yet. Maybe they were never as powerful as they were made out to be.

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    Donaldinho threatening Russia with sanctions now. Maybe he just loves a threat?

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    Hang on, I thought 'we'd' already put large scale sanctions on Russia? If we have but there are other large scale sanctions that could have been employed what the fuck have we been doing for the last three years? I thought the only plan we had was:

    1: Sanctions
    2: ????
    3. War ends

    Jesus wept.

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    He's already bottled the Tariffs - no doubt due to Pepe's threats - against Mexico and Canada. Let's not make the mistake of believing anything the deranged cunt says. He makes his mind up on a minute by minute basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    He's already bottled the Tariffs - no doubt due to Pepe's threats - against Mexico and Canada. Let's not make the mistake of believing anything the deranged cunt says. He makes his mind up on a minute by minute basis.
    That was my first thought, but then it did make me wonder if there’s more we could have sanctioned. Hopefully BBC verify are on it as I type.

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    There might be, but as we all figured out pretty much immediately, in a globalist world the sanctions are pretty much useless and Scumlords - like our friend and national traitor, Jimmy - will just buy their Russian Tractor spark plugs from Uzbekistan or Tajikistan. Having to do business through a third party doesn't do a whole lot of harm to them.

    Raiding Russian billionaires in Britain has made a difference, but only in terms of funding Ukraine. I doubt Putin gives much of a shit about Yuri Kalashnakovs impounded yacht.

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