U.S. Presidential Election 2016 (Sponsored by Betty Croker's Hamburger Helper)

[Lewis]

There is some intuitive cleverness there. Homing in on China and de-industrialisation and immigration and rolling it all together was clever, seemingly seeing through a lot of the bullshit that surrounds foreign policy has been a bit of a success for him, and his personality is/was well-suited to the culture war stuff (particularly when 'respectable' Republicans earn their respectability by just surrendering to it); but then the things that make him good also make him shit, because he doesn't seem to have the - for lack of a better word - 'seriousness' to actually do much about any of it beyond blunt policies and moaning.

[Lewis]

ADOLF HITLER was a bit like that.

[Lofty]

Are we confusing winning elections with being a good politician? Because that is only part of it, the same way Edward IV was regarded as an excellent warrior and commander but a more lacklustre king. Trump won an election and galvanised support in a way not seen before as mentioned here but what has he achieved for it? The SCOTUS appointments fell into his lap, he is seemingly a poor legislator who relies heavily on executive orders to get his own way, or at least give the illusion he is keeping his promises. He spent almost as much time in his term campaigning as if the 2016 election had not happened as he did playing golf.

Like Boris, absolute crushed the general election but it's hardly been a political masterclass since he got in, even with a commanding majority.

Any old wanker can win the X Factor but doesn't guarantee they will have a decent music career.

[Boydy]

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Someone's fucked up there.

[Jimmy Floyd]

That is proper 'Sue Cook's pulled out'.

[Kikó]

Just before he goes and rants in a car park, Biden is announced as president. LOL.

[Kikó]

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Van's emotional speech.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hasn't been called on Betfair. 1.04, free money.

[Lewis]

If the stakes were really that high how could you not commit electoral fraud where possible?

[Giggles]

Where the fuck is this press conference?

[Giggles]

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[Kikó]

Sad pathetic man getting the send off he deserves.

[Giggles]

That Giulani ranting is hilarious and sad at the same time.

[Kikó]

Are you watching it on Fox? What a pathetic shill he is now.

[Giggles]

Are you watching it on Fox? What a pathetic shill he is now.

Sky News but they cut him off after he started going on about Will Smiths dead father voting and it being kept secret.

[Disco]

I saw him on Fox yesterday and the stream of nonsensical bullhist was amazing, not sure how anyone can take him seriously.

[Spoonsky]

I don't think you understand. Being good at politics is being good at winning. I wish it was about coalition building etc but fundamentally it's not.

He lost. He's now 1-1 in his political career which is a lot lower batting average than most ESTABLISHMENT politicians.

Mitch McConnell, now there's someone who's good at politics, the turtle-looking freak.

[mugbull]

He lost. He's now 1-1 in his political career which is a lot lower batting average than most ESTABLISHMENT politicians.

Mitch McConnell, now there's someone who's good at politics, the turtle-looking freak.

Yeah, he lost because of corona. And he won the first one as a complete party outsider. No one else in his shoes could have done what he did

McConnell’s good at traditional party politics but he could never be a somebody in the presidential scene

[Kikó]

Looks on now that Romano has called it.

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[Ian]

What's his hit rate for elections?

[Giggles]

When did the media become the ones to be the final word and declare winners in these things? Surely there’s some official thing that needs to or has America completely handed the keys over?

[Kikó]

I think this is always the case. They have projections based on the incoming results and then call it when they are hit. The counting continues in each state and the results could be marginally different but not significantly so (which is why they can call it).

[Luke Emia]

Looks on now that Romano has called it.

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Are they tracking the plane? That’s how you know it’s done.

[niko_cee]

No, but they did do a bit yesterday on how the airspace over Joe's house (basement) had been closed off and how that was indicative of the Secret Service thinking he was now effectively the president.

[Shindig]

I wonder how much damage Trump can do between now and January?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Random question, for the 'election of our lifetimes' narrative - was the one between Donald and Crooked Hillary not sixty times more important than this? If that result had been different, the cat would never have got out of the bag.

[Disco]

I wonder how much damage Trump can do between now and January?

I think there's half a chance he just stays on the golf course, never sets foot in the White House again.

[Kikó]

So no change?

[Disco]

[Lewis]

As I saw suggested elsewhere, he should timetable pulling out of Afghanistan in the next, say, four years just so the new administration has to reverse it.

[Queenslander]

*coughs*
"45, you're fired!"

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://secure.winred.com/tmagac/ele...nse-task-force

lol.

[John Arne]

Republicans are red
Democrats are blue
I'm Donald Trump
And I'm fucking off soon

[Baz]

I’m sure it’s well known but I’m only just getting involved with this. It’s a crying shame that the clear brains behind the whole campaign has to stay in the shadow of a decrepit old man, because the patriarchy wouldn’t allow for such an assertive female trailblazer to be officially in charge of the worlds most powerful country. Least of all, a mixed-race woman. Sad. Hopefully Kamala Harris can make a major difference, even if Grandpa Joe gets all the credit.

[Shindig]

https://secure.winred.com/tmagac/ele...nse-task-force

lol.

That .... can't be legit. Why would you need money for it? He's a billionaire.

[Lofty]

That .... can't be legit. Why would you need money for it? He's a billionaire.

He likely isn't a billionaire, or his assets as liquid as you would suppose. Also why spend your own money when you can spend some eager fool's?

Billionaire is a status now, like millionaire used to be. I heard about another rich yank in a court case and his main concern was that he was referred to as a billionaire in proceedings despite some digging suggesting he might not be. It's a financial penis extension for some of these people.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That .... can't be legit. Why would you need money for it? He's a billionaire.

I got it from his official Team Trump Twitter.

[Spikey M]

As I saw suggested elsewhere, he should timetable pulling out of Afghanistan in the next, say, four years just so the new administration has to reverse it.

It part of what makes their system so mental. Why give the exiting president 3 months to fuck everything up/shit down the back of the radiators?

[Disco]

It's not normally a giant manlet with daddy issues on the way out.

[niko_cee]

Was it Clinton who took all the Ws off the keyboards (or is that apocryphal)?

lol

[Kikó]

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The crazy evangelical market have taken it well.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

God will not allow Trump to lose.

[Vercetti]

Hercules isn't having it, either.

[Disco]

I hear Ahura Mazda is absolutely livid.

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...mage-dangerous

“All these 100-truck convoys may start marching like they’re going into Mosul,” he said. “It’s like an insurgency. We’re going to find out … whether they rise up en masse and say we don’t accept this, Donald Trump’s our man, and they start parading and taking over boards of elections.”

[Queenslander]

George Bush legitimising Biden has to be the end of it surely?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

No.

It will go through the courts, they'll throw it out as there is no evidence of foul play, Trump will moan that the courts are in BIG MEDIA's pocket and he'll have to be dragged out of the White House.

[Lewis]

But Trump’s defeat also sets the clock ticking on 11 weeks that some analysts believe could be the most dangerous period in US history, the time before the 20 January inauguration of Joe Biden during which a vengeful president can wreak havoc if he choses to do so.

“If Trump loses power he’ll spend his last 90 days wrecking the United States like a malicious child with a sledgehammer in a china shop,” said Malcolm Nance, a veteran intelligence analyst and political author, speaking before the result of the election was known... “He’s a compromised person, a broken asset of a foreign power, and has been under the thrall, the pay, or most likely the debt of Vladimir Putin,” Nance said. “Anything which benefits him personally, anything that benefits what he believes is his brand, he will do.”

[Boydy]

I just keep thinking of 'Four Seasons Total Landscaping' and laughing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Trump's director of communications for this campaign putting out fake news