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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Is it actually done or is everyone just going on polls and all that stuff?
    For some reason they announce how votes are going as they're still being counted. It's done, just a matter of formalising how much he's won by.

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    Sentencing in 3 weeks

    Can he pardon himself now?

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    Presidency, House and Senate. He can do whatever he wants.

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    Trump 2 - 0 Women candidates.

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    The reactions from self-regarding types on our side of the drink are amazing. 'Otto English' on twitter is always a go-to for this sort of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post

    Hopefully this marks the end of the woke era and those with western civilisation's interests at heart will return to the fore in response.
    I somehow doubt it will, the usual suspects will once again be completely bemused as to how anyone could vote for him let alone him win an election. This came up time and time again in the coverage I saw last night and people just don't get it.

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    The better candidate has won. Well done Trump.

    If I was American, I would have voted for him over Harris.

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    Harris is catching up.

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    There's too much money in outrage for the woke/unwoke stuff to stop. You'd need social media to collapse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    The reactions from self-regarding types on our side of the drink are amazing. 'Otto English' on twitter is always a go-to for this sort of thing.
    Had a quick look and nearly vomited. This rose tinted view of Europe, when it's actually awash with racists and rising (far) right movements is hilarious and I'm assuming stems from an inability to accept the Brexit referendum result, even after more than 8 years have passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    There's too much money in outrage for the woke/unwoke stuff to stop. You'd need social media to collapse.
    How do I vote in favour of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    There's too much money in outrage for the woke/unwoke stuff to stop. You'd need social media to collapse.
    Social media is what's causing all this change, but for some reason the only part of it is that the mainstream listens to are Spikey's screaming blue haired lot and there aren't anywhere near enough of them to accomplish much beyond cancelling individuals, irrespective of how loudly they scream.

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    The bookies have already paid out on Trump, so there's no chance of it being overhauled.

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    Need Don to remove the term limit out and have it out with Obama in 2028 for the self acclaimed GOAT

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    Emily Thornberry crying a river here, moaning about Trump's intention to withdraw from the Paris climate accord, an accord which last time I checked was nowhere near to achieving its stated goals.

    Fair play to Starmer for not attempting to 'win the argument' and good luck to him keeping his lot in check.

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    List of countries about to be fucked:

    1. Ukraine
    2. Iran
    3. UK

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    At least Kennedy can sort out THE SCIENCE and Musk can remove 3 trillion of waste from the 3 trillion government spend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    List of countries about to be fucked:

    1. Ukraine
    2. Iran
    3. UK
    Throw us into the mix too. Though this place deserves everything it gets and in the long run this is the best thing for the world as a whole.

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    Turns out the state of democracy wasn't that important.

    How is this going to fuck the UK? Nigel will see us right.

    Although extra lol if Harris somehow comes back now after Sir Toolmaker has congratulated Donald.

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    Pretty sure Trump last time round wanted to impose any trade deals on us based on allowing sub standard yank meat to be sold in the UK amongst other things.

    Also if he says 'bye' to Ukraine and pulls out of NATO we are a lot closer to the fallout of that than he is, it wasn't that long ago Russia were routinely flying fighter jets along the edge of our airspace.

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    Isn't sub standard yank meat essentially a massive protectionist lie in itself? The whole chlorinated chicken thing is - an EU policy specifically created to exclude those products not for the benefit of the consumer. I don't know about the growth hormone beef or whatever, but their USDA steaks and whatnot seem to attract a premium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post

    Also if he says 'bye' to Ukraine and pulls out of NATO we are a lot closer to the fallout of that than he is, it wasn't that long ago Russia were routinely flying fighter jets along the edge of our airspace.
    What fallout would there be? Putin's not suddenly going to invade Poland. And shovelling billions upon billions into this in perpetuity makes little sense when the West is (relatively) on its arse.

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    Trump is much better for the UK than Harris, the Dems fucking hate us. Trump by contrast has lots of business interests here. Starmer will no doubt piss this up the wall by taking a stupid moral stance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    What fallout would there be? Putin's not suddenly going to invade Poland. And shovelling billions upon billions into this in perpetuity makes little sense when the West is (relatively) on its arse.
    The guy bags his shite to make sure no-one can test it, he wants to be buried in a soviet flag having restored the union to it's former glory. A toothless Europe and disinterested America is exactly what he wants, why did he take Donny for a private chat away from his handlers on that visit if not?

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    Biden would have done better than Harris by the looks of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    The guy bags his shite to make sure no-one can test it, he wants to be buried in a soviet flag having restored the union to it's former glory. A toothless Europe and disinterested America is exactly what he wants, why did he take Donny for a private chat away from his handlers on that visit if not?
    He can want these things all he likes, if he starts a full scale invasion of Eastern Europe he'd be blown off the map.

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    By whom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    By whom?
    The rest of Europe and ultimately the US. Trump might not want to (I'm not sure he wouldn't), but the pressure on him to get involved if Putin was to try would be overwhelming.

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    The office debate this morning is unlistenable trash (as most office debates are I suppose). The smug woke bloke is APPALLED and thinks that instead of electing Trump, they should ban guns. The Arab think it's all about Palestine and Arab Americans voting for Trump in their droves (which may well have happened but they are tiny in number). The black guy thinks that 'Make America Great Again' is a racist slogan.

    Everyone just makes everything about themselves. Try going in other people's shoes for a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    By whom?
    He's lost a quarter of a million men and shit tons of hardware getting a few hundred kms into Ukraine, he doesn't remotely have the resources to do anything else.

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    Trump is 78 years of age. Driving licence expires at 70.....

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    Just when he's poised to get the vote Pepe is set to be thwarted by the abolition of elections in the US.

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    Wait, Maitlis was taken off air on C4 for getting all sweary?


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    Anyone heard from sausage fingers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Wait, Maitlis was taken off air on C4 for getting all sweary?




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    It's done. Trump on 279.

    BRING ON THE MEME'S.


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    Are y'all actually using the term woke in here unironically? If so holy shit, absolute melts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soldier View Post
    Are y'all actually using the term woke in here unironically? If so holy shit, absolute melts.
    It's an awful term, but what other word is there that encapsulates the intolerance of the left and general associated nonsense we've seen over the last few years?

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    I'm surprised that Jimmy actually uses the word woke. It's gimpy.

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    Just have a discussion, not a label. Genuinely makes y'all seem as precious as the ones you're desperate to mock. Kinda weird all round.

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    It's a useful metonym for the 2010s onwards obsession with identity politics on the academic left. Make a better word for it if you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    It's done. Trump on 279.

    BRING ON THE MEME'S.

    Really is a tragic performance from the Democrats. Still, just blame the outcome on America getting a fair few million people more racist and everyone involved can sleep easy rather than being thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    I'm surprised that Jimmy actually uses the word woke. It's gimpy.
    It is and I feel a little bit sick every time I see it, but we are where we are.

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    Pretty funny that Kamala was doing well in the polls and her campaign seemed to have momentum until a group of advisors from the Labour party went over to advise the Democrats how to win and it all seemed to fall to shit from that point onwards.

    I imagine the Democrats didn't really take all their advice or anything too seriously. But still. Funny.

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    It's no different to everyone calling Trump a fascist or whatever. In fact it's a lot better than that because 'woke' is era-specific and accurate in its implications. It will be used heavily by historians looking back on this period.

    People who object to it are normally those who feel attacked by its usage, in the same way that I might react if one of them called me white privileged or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soldier View Post
    Just have a discussion, not a label. Genuinely makes y'all seem as precious as the ones you're desperate to mock. Kinda weird all round.
    You can't have discussions though can you, at least not in a public forum for fear of being set upon and your life getting exponentially harder as a result. And if you want proof of that look at these election results, from Brexit to last night, people just don't want to share how they feel because the potential fallout just isn't worth it - Last night was supposed to be neck and neck according to the polls, yet Trump had clearly won by 3am and it's going to end up in a landslide for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soldier View Post
    Are y'all actually using the term woke in here unironically? If so holy shit, absolute melts.
    Y'all? Mate.

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    Not just the mumsnet of sport, the mumsnet of politics too. Facebook for former FMers. Glorious stuff lads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Last night was supposed to be neck and neck according to the polls, yet Trump had clearly won by 3am and it's going to end up in a landslide for him.
    All within the margin of error baby.

    Didn't the polls have Trump ahead in 5 of the 7 swing states immediately prior to the election?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Pretty funny that Kamala was doing well in the polls and her campaign seemed to have momentum until a group of advisors from the Labour party went over to advise the Democrats how to win and it all seemed to fall to shit from that point onwards.

    I imagine the Democrats didn't really take all their advice or anything too seriously. But still. Funny.
    What did they advise?

    In any case, polls are dead. Either the pollsters are in an echo-chamber of their own and aren't asking the right people or they are and the people they're asking just don't want to tell them the truth, as as above, it just isn't worth it.

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