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    Star Wars: The Force Awakens

    It's going to need it's own thread and I've got a freebie in the end to go and see it tomorrow night. I wouldn't have bothered but due to when I started with Vodafone I have a spare hour and a half holiday to use so I'll just go in late on Thursday.

    I've not looked at early reviews or comments just in case but somebody told me they'd heard early impressions were good. I'd have gone to see it either way, so it probably doesn't matter.

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    I'll probably see it on Friday. I haven't been spoiler free though, and there are full spoilers of everything on various sites today.

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    I haven't seen anything that is an actual definite spoiler. I suspect the Kylo Ren stuff I've read in the build-up will be true, to some extent, but I've not looked at anything today. I take it we're agreed that everything's fair game after midnight tomorrow but keep actual spoilers..... well, spoilered, until then?

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    Seeing it Friday evening, and since it's so close now I'm really trying to steer away from reviews and stuff.

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    From videogames to R2D2 showerheads to Star Wars themed Oranges, I have had my total apathy for the series turned into a rage that I'm struggling to control. I think I'm going to go and shout at the screen the whole time.

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    I will be watching it sometime near the end of its run.

    For the first few weeks screens will be packed, therefore more chance of dickheads talking and/or looking at phones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    From videogames to R2D2 showerheads to Star Wars themed Oranges, I have had my total apathy for the series turned into a rage that I'm struggling to control. I think I'm going to go and shout at the screen the whole time.
    It was all about the merchandise from very nearly the start. Simmer down.

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    I don't remember much of the original ones so I think I will give the new ones a miss.

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    I've got to basically avoid the internet for a week or two until I get the chance to see this. Fuck me I'm giddy to see what the reviews are like though.

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    I'll see it in January once the crowds die down.

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    Its not for me. They're kids' films.

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    You shut your whore mouth.

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    9.2 on IMDB.

    Gotta love those fanboys.

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    I think it is a kids film to an extent. In the sense that you need to have been a kid when you first saw it to get you hooked. Hearing John Williams do his shit is then as soothing and nostalgic as sucking on your mums tit. Can't fucking wait.

    For the film that is.

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    Can we just agree on whether we do spoiler tags or not in this thread?

    I know it's a separate thread, so normally we wouldn't, but me for instance would be interested in knowing some general opinions from people who have watched it without getting it spoiled. Maybe we can do reviews in the film thread and discussion about the plot etc in this? Or what does everyone think?

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    Spoiler tags are absolutely required.

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    Why would you put spoiler tags in a thread that has the film title on it? Stick spoiler in the title if needs be and learn a bit of fucking self control.

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    For the reasons I mentioned above, for one, Giggles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    For the reasons I mentioned above, for one, Giggles.
    You're going to watch it anyway so the only opinion that matters on it is your own. Are you going to think it's worse because the film brigade here find something wrong with it?

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    Seeing it Friday as that's my birthday and I'm off work. Can't wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    You're going to watch it anyway so the only opinion that matters on it is your own. Are you going to think it's worse because the film brigade here find something wrong with it?
    No it won't affect my opinion on it, I think, but I personally won't be able to watch it for a good week or a few, and I'm just curious as to what people think about it, is all. I'm not exactly dreading spoilers like the plague (I know some people who have uninstalled all social media apps from their phones ), but it would be nice to avoid if I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    9.2 on IMDB.

    Gotta love those fanboys.
    It's always good fun when you lol at that sort of thing without having actually seen the media in question.

    I'm generally a little over cautious when it comes to spoiler tags but I see absolutely no reason to have them in here. The whole point in having a separate thread is that people can avoid it until they've seen the film in question. If you want to post a spoiler free review in the film thread that's up to you, but spoiler tags will not be required in this thread.

    Unless you're posting spoilery stuff today, before the film is out, of course. Then not only are spoiler tags required, but you'll be marked as a wanker.

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    It's a fucking shambles, the Facebook guy that I'm always complaining about has already done his.

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    So, did they beam Scotty up?

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    I've always thought that spoiler tags in dedicated threads are absolute lunacy.

    If you haven't seen it, discuss your excitement/apathy about doing so in the film thread and if you have seen it, post about that in here.

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    That's fine, just wanted to know whats up

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    As for me, I've little interest in seeing it, but the thought of doing all the previous 6 (yes, even the 'first' two) over Christmas and they watching it in the New Year does have an appeal.

    The plot (bar the big stuff) has always gone in one ear and out of the other with me, so if there's any sort of derivative quality to the new one most of it will be lost on me if I don't revisit the originals.

    Oh and Shindig is right, they're kids films.

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    They are not

    Disney films or Babe are kids films. There's no way a kid would be able to follow the general plot in Star Wars, besides there are quite a few (while implicit) relatively harsh moments throughout the series (like Anakin killing off a bunch of kids, Han solo getting tortured, the Emperor being a general violent bastard).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahow View Post
    It's a fucking shambles, the Facebook guy that I'm always complaining about has already done his.
    You're a bundle of joy aren't you, 'how.

    As for the 'kids films' claim, I'm with Maz - Star Wars has always been aimed at adults. It's just that cool flashy light sabers and good guys fighting bad guys attracts kids too. But they're not like Pixar films, which are always very deliberately aimed at both kids and adults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazuuurk View Post
    They are not

    Disney films or Babe are kids films. There's no way a kid would be able to follow the general plot in Star Wars
    Seriously? Unless I'm mis-remembering I had no problem at 8.

    And films aimed at kids can have adult themes in them, the best ones often do.

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    The only adults it's aimed at are manchildren.

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    Surely the end game is that a ludicrously popular range of kids toys were released off the back of it and how would that have worked if it wasn't a kids film?

    I know adults collect them now, but my generation-ish all played with them as kids, as toys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Seriously? Unless I'm mis-remembering I had no problem at 8.

    And films aimed at kids can have adult themes in them, the best ones often do.
    Yeah of course they can, but generally it's kind of hidden beneath a flashy surface. Also I don't think I've ever seen a kids film where an adult kills a whole bunch of kids or someone blows up a whole planet.

    Kids films should be for kids, I'd say an 8-year-old would generally not get much of Star Wars at all, and may get a little scared watching it, even if you didn't.

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    Hmm, I dunno, it's probably a big enough part of our culture to be thought of as an 'everyone' film. Hence the Facebook profile picture thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    As for the 'kids films' claim, I'm with Maz - Star Wars has always been aimed at adults. It's just that cool flashy light sabers and good guys fighting bad guys attracts kids too. But they're not like Pixar films, which are always very deliberately aimed at both kids and adults.
    Definitely not. A few of the costumes for the original film were redesigned during production to make them more suited to becoming children's toys.

    They are films for children. That they're so big is just a function of them being very good children's films.

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    Children don't have money, films are never aimed at them. They're aimed at parents who pay for the tickets, which is why nostalgia crap like Star Wars, and two-level nonsense like Shrek are both surefire box office winners. You could make the best children's film ever but nobody will watch it unless you can convince adults to take their children to it.

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    If you click that 'Try it' thing for the Star Wars profile, there are a load of options for sport teams listed too. Have they always been there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Children don't have money, films are never aimed at them. They're aimed at parents who pay for the tickets, which is why nostalgia crap like Star Wars, and two-level nonsense like Shrek are both surefire box office winners. You could make the best children's film ever but nobody will watch it unless you can convince adults to take their children to it.
    Really? You think Gnomeo And Juliet is aimed at adults?

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    Shrek is a pure kids-film to me.

    You are right of course, Jim, but what we (or at least I) mean with "kids" films here are films primarily aimed to entertain kids. Most parents will likely rather go to see Bond or something given the choice, but having kids that's not an option and a film like Shrek that's made for kids but kind of appeals to adults as well (see: any Pixar film), are easier to sit through for the parents (or even entertaining enough) so they will chose that.

    Star Wars is, in the same manner, a film meant for adults that also suits some kids, although I'd really say you'd generally need to be around 10-12 to be able to watch Star Wars - to me that's not a kids film really (a kids film is for kids 3-10 or so in my mind). It really has some relatively violent parts though, specially Episode III.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wullie View Post
    If you click that 'Try it' thing for the Star Wars profile, there are a load of options for sport teams listed too. Have they always been there?
    If they aren't selling this to companies already, they will be soon. Quality pitch:

    "Guys, look at how many people we got to put the French flag on their profiles! You just make sure to pay, and we'll make sure that that will be the Coke logo instead!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by wullie View Post
    If you click that 'Try it' thing for the Star Wars profile, there are a load of options for sport teams listed too. Have they always been there?
    Yep, it's mainly Arsenal supporters who use it.

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    In fairness, they are probably amongst the only supporters who are currently moderately proud of their team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    As for me, I've little interest in seeing it, but the thought of doing all the previous 6 (yes, even the 'first' two) over Christmas and they watching it in the New Year does have an appeal.

    The plot (bar the big stuff) has always gone in one ear and out of the other with me, so if there's any sort of derivative quality to the new one most of it will be lost on me if I don't revisit the originals.

    Oh and Shindig is right, they're kids films.
    What order will you watch them in?

    I don't think it's as simple as being "for kids" or "for adults".

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    Biggest film release in years and the majority of the discussion is if they're kids films or not. Classic TTH.


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    No one's seen it yet, what do you expect?

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    Righto Boyd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soldier View Post
    Righto Boyd.
    Well you weren't exactly adding tot he discussion with moaning about everyone else, were you? Classic DS.


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    Of course not, fuck Star Wars bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry View Post
    What order will you watch them in?

    I don't think it's as simple as being "for kids" or "for adults".
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