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    Yeah it seems quite a big advantage. I'm not sure of the US.

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    Murray just took the second set to make it 1-1. Official Australian Open stream 'available' from Australia, if you get my meaning:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kpKbunOueM

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    Woof. 2-1 to Raonic now after a tie-break. Murray's second serve continues to let him down in the big games.

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    Murray rescues 2 break points to serve out for the 4th set. Hard to imagine either of these giving Djokovic many problems, considering the game will likely run over four hours now. Crazy having the semis on different days.

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    Murray to lose 5 Aussie open finals vs Djok. Must be massively annoying.

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    Annoying because Murray knows Djok's on a 'gluten free' diet?

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    It's ok, he can pick them up retrospectively.

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    Annoying because Djok is either doping or because in another era he'd be a multiple grandslam winner (say 5).

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    I think Raonic v Djokovic would have been a lot more interesting but we'll see. My guess is Djokovic in 4.

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    I often wonder what you can do against someone you meet so frequently who just seems to have your number. At least he hasn't got a completely shit record against him like Maria against Serena.

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    Yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    I often wonder what you can do against someone you meet so frequently who just seems to have your number. At least he hasn't got a completely shit record against him like Maria against Serena.
    I think it's 18 in a row now, mental. That they're often called 'rivals' seems unfitting. I don't know what the term should be, conquerer and conquered maybe.

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    That said, he has beaten him in two Grand Slam finals before.

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    Womens' Final has been really fantastic so far. Kerber serving for the match.

    EDIT: And Kerber seems determined to make a game of it, apparently. That was way wide.
    EDIT II: And credit to Williams who gives away nothing when the chips are down.

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    That's a massive upset, and Williams really made her earn it. Huge credit to Kerber for coming back after failing to serve out the match at 5-3. That took huge guts.

    That was one of the better games of womens' tennis I've ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    I think it's 18 in a row now, mental. That they're often called 'rivals' seems unfitting. I don't know what the term should be, conquerer and conquered maybe.
    I remember somebody once asking Andy Roddick about his 'rivalry' with Federer and he said it wouldn't be a rivalry until he started beating him more often.

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    I'm firmly on Team Murray here, but he's getting wiped out. There's only one player in this match at the moment.

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    Players should be banned from using their towels in-between every single fecking point.

    Murray did well to avoid a 6-0 in this first set.

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    Standard bottling cunt performance.

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    Why the fuck is this seemingly only on Eurosport?

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    I got up to watch it thinking it would be on a channel I have. Never mind.

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    You heard it here first, Djokovic is doping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    You heard it here first, Djokovic is doping.
    It'd be the least surprising news ever were it confirmed.

    Eurosport's coverage is so bad.

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    I must admit, I find it hard to believe about Djokovic. He's freakishly talented, whereas the dopers surely rely on their athleticism to compensate for their technical deficiencies.

    Djokovic just wants it more. Than anyone.

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    Also, he has the cold, dead eyes of a contract killer. Seriously. If the tennis thing doesn't pan out, he could make a nice side-business.



    No Mr Bond. I expect you to die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post

    Djokovic just wants it more. Than anyone.
    I never understood, or agreed, with the idea that "player x just wants it more". Djokovic is just better than Murray. He doesn't want it anymore than him, and any other player on the tour - he's just better at tennis than them.

    EDIT: that isn't to say, of course, that there aren't payers who don't give/care/want it as much as others - but I doubt they are anywhere near the top 20 in any sports (except the likes of O'Sullivan).

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    Yep - Wanting it more is a bollocks concept, which if true would more likely actually lead to doping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    I never understood, or agreed, with the idea that "player x just wants it more". Djokovic is just better than Murray. He doesn't want it anymore than him, and any other player on the tour - he's just better at tennis than them.
    Oh, he's more talented than Murray. Definitely. And anyone else going around at the moment.

    But he does seem to have a total dedication to chasing down every single point, which presumably comes from boundless self-belief. He's coupling his extreme talent with being at the far end of the Safin-Hewitt scale of never giving up.

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    Dyoko definitely looks like he's up for a bit of nationalist fueled ethnic cleansing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    Oh, he's more talented than Murray. Definitely. And anyone else going around at the moment.

    But he does seem to have a total dedication to chasing down every single point, which presumably comes from boundless self-belief.
    Or EPO.

    I mean, seriously, he's not technically better than Murray or Federer he's just a machine compared to the two of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Or EPO.

    I mean, seriously, he's not technically better than Murray or Federer he's just a machine compared to the two of them.
    I think he is at the moment. There's nobody else in the game who can convert a defensive position to an offensive position as well as he can. Murray was running him around the court on one of those deuce points, and then he slid in a perfect two-handed backhand winner out of nothing. Murray doesn't have shots like that in his game, and Federer tended to win by controlling points from the start.

    Peak Federer was better than Djokovic is now, but he's clearly got more at his disposal presently than either of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Dyoko definitely looks like he's up for a bit of nationalist fueled ethnic cleansing.
    Given his comments in the past on Kosovo, it's hard to argue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    I think he is at the moment. There's nobody else in the game who can convert a defensive position to an offensive position as well as he can. Murray was running him around the court on one of those deuce points, and then he slid in a perfect two-handed backhand winner. Murray doesn't have shots like that in his game, and Federer tended to win by controlling points from the start.

    Peak Federer was better than Djokovic is now, but he's clearly got more at his disposal presently than either of them.
    There's no-one else who can chase down points as well as Djokovic can, I agree with that.

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    Djokovic is just better than everyone else, and he has the physical strength and stamina to last as long as everyone else. Peak Federer would beat him on grass and hard, and peak Nadal on clay, but Murray losing the final to Djokovic isn't going to be a disgrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    There's no-one else who can chase down points as well as Djokovic can, I agree with that.
    It's not just that though. Nobody could chase better than Hewitt, but he didn't have the arsenal to make the most of it. It's one thing to chase points down, but it's another to have the technical ability to take control of the point when you're chasing. No amount of EPO is going to help you with that.

    You want to find the EPO? My bet is on the clay specialists who sit on the baseline and return everything until the other player gives up out of boredom.

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    Watch the sexy Scottish bastard get broken again here...

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    The interesting thing is whether there are any players coming through who can stop Djokovic from steamrolling all and sundry. I mean, in theory, it's the ones who are a few years younger, like Nishikori and Raonic, etc. should be the ones we're looking towards. But realistically, he seems to have had their numbers. Wawrinka was the only one who looked capable of putting a dent in him, and even then, it's hardly been common.

    EDIT: You look at the aged early-20s seeded players and you have Thiem, Tomic, Sock, Kyrgios and Dimitrov. Nothing in that list screams multiple slam champion.
    EDIT II: Wawrinka and Tsonga are two years older than Djokovic.

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    Serbs are all Nazis or whatever the right word is. I had a Serb landlady once who was normal in many ways, but insisted that Albanians are an unclean sub-race and Kosovo should be re-attached to Serbia by force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    The interesting thing is whether there are any players coming through who can stop Djokovic from steamrolling all and sundry. I mean, in theory, it's the ones who are a few years younger, like Nishikori and Raonic, etc. should be the ones we're looking towards. But realistically, he seems to have had their numbers. Wawrinka was the only one who looked capable of putting a dent in him, and even then, it's hardly been common

    EDIT: You look at the aged early-20s seeded players and you have Thiem, Tomic, Sock, Kyrgios and Dimitrov. Nothing in that list screams multiple slam champion.
    EDIT II: Wawrinka and Tsonga are two years older than Djokovic.
    I'm glad there aren't obvious multi-slam champions coming through. It has become boring now.

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    You can't really be losing your serve from 40-0.

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    The comeback
    *Djokovic 6-1 6-5 Murray
    David Law
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    Posted at 10:30
    "In games where Djokovic is 40-0 down on an opponent's serve, he comes back to win the game 32% of the time."

    That can't be true.

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    Murray at his best would've won this. Unfortunately he's playing like a twat.

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    That'll be that.

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    Aye, stick a fork in this one.

    A meek third set was always likely after all that.

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    Djok is just ridiculous. One day he'll die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    I'm glad there aren't obvious multi-slam champions coming through. It has become boring now.
    That would be true if Djokovic wasn't there. But all it means now is that there's nobody who's going to stop him winning two or three slams a year until he's 35.

    There's no Djokovic coming through to stop Federer in his tracks.

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    Come on the mint!

    Don't immediately lose your serve, at least.

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    Does winning a set take this out of 'horrific gubbing' territory?

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    Only if he doesn't get heavily gubbed in the 4th set itself.

    I'm not sure Federer's set took him out of Gubville, for example.

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    Mental disintegration in progress.

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