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    Id prefer they relocate the banter boys to Snowtown.

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    World Cup winners elect England sauntering past a woeful Australia again. Does Australia need to cut the number of states and go for quality over quantity?

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    NSW v NSW A?

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    They already do that when they play South Australia.

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    We're really bad at ODI cricket. Genuinely terrible.

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    It's like Australia have looked at everything we did when we were terrible and thought now that's an idea.

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    We just can't push the scoring without losing wickets in ODI matches. It's fine in tests, because we can just sit back and wait for opportunities. But when we need to make things happen, we're all at sea.

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    I'm tempting fate but there's a lack of INTENT from the Aussie boys really.

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    Failing to chase a relatively modest total when Joe Root is essentially a front line bowler would be a major worry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I'm tempting fate but there's a lack of INTENT from the Aussie boys really.
    I don't know what this means.

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    You need to get your brand more aggressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    I don't know what this means.
    It means you're not doing to us what we were supposed to be doing to Nathan Lyon in the Ashes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    It means you're not doing to us what we were supposed to be doing to Nathan Lyon in the Ashes.
    I have to assume that if you'd gone at him with more INTENT he'd have just gotten you guys out even faster.

    Wasn't your batting problem too much intent, rather than not enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    I have to assume that if you'd gone at him with more INTENT he'd have just gotten you guys out even faster.

    Wasn't your batting problem too much intent, rather than not enough?
    Yes, I'm just quoting morons in the media.

    I take it you will have a root and branch review of your white ball cricket after losing this series.

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    At least we don't have Stokes to bowl the last over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Yes, I'm just quoting morons in the media.

    I take it you will have a root and branch review of your white ball cricket after losing this series.
    It's a given. Although I don't know what you'd change, really.

    I have a theory that you can only be good at two kinds of cricket, otherwise you're spreading everything too thin. Big Bash probably trains us for T20, and hurts us in ODI.

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    That's probably true. India, on the quiet, are absolutely shite at T20 and have been for some years. The idea of IPL/franchise leagues making things stronger/being a breeding ground for cricket knowledge is an absolute myth.

    At least the Big Bash franchises recruit fairly logically. IPL recruitment is an absolute shambles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    At least we don't have Stokes to bowl the last over.
    Don't you talk about the ginger saviour that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    don't you talk about the ginger saviour that way.
    Talisman.

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    We'd have won the Ashes 6-0 if he'd been there.

    I think his free-scoring style would have really let James Vince play his natural game.

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    The airwaves are now awash with people calling for Roy and Buttler to make the Test team because they've scored white ball hundreds.

    People never learn, do they?

    White ball cricket is DIFFERENT because there is a ball limit and so wickets have a diminishing value for every ball faced. This allows attacking players such as Roy and Buttler to flourish because the onus is on them to score runs.

    In red ball cricket, there is no time limit so the onus is on the bowler to get the batsman out, which means the odds are with the batsman unless he does something stupid like doing the bowler's job for him by chucking his wicket away. Wickets are just as valuable every ball until you get right down to the tail and the innings looks like it will come to an end. This means that PATIENT players succeed and attacking players like Roy and Buttler will be very inconsistent at best.

    This is fucking simple stuff. No one thinks about the game.

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    I mean, if you swap them for Vince it might yet be an improvement.

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    Batting at three I think, with a heavy heart, I'd have Vince over either of those. I've watched Jason Roy play red ball cricket. It isn't for those with a weak heart.

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    Sam Curran in the T20 squad

    Welcome to the future, it's much better here.

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    Meanwhile Big Vern drops in an opening spell of 8-7-1-1, I wish I was him.

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    Forgot it was on, turned it on, England were 5/10.

    I feel like I didn't miss more than a couple of minutes.

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    Apparently, the players have been taken off in the South Africa vs. India match as Dean Elgar has been struck by a delivery. Anyone have any more information?

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    Jamaica '98 style pitch apparently. 40s from Kohli and Rahane apparently worth double tons.

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    IPL auction logic continues to baffle. Why would Chris Gayle go unsold?

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    I watched a bit of that South Africa game yesterday and it always amazes me how a pitch becomes 'unplayable' when batsmen start getting tonked on the lid (in fairness the one that nailed Elgar did leap a bit). The Indian tail had to bat under sustained fire from Morkel, which was apparently absolutely fine, and then it's suddenly far too dangerous half an hour later. You can't abandon a game in the fourth innings, suck it up Saffas.

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    It's a farce, although for once you can't blame the Saffas, the umpires don't seem to have a clue.

    This auction stuff is quality, Indian bowlers are so bad that the overseas bowlers (and all rounders) have massively inflated prices. Chris Woakes has gone for 7 crore which is up there over a million dollars, while poor old Kane Williamson is only worth 3 crore and Root, Amla, Gayle all unsold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    IPL auction logic continues to baffle. Why would Chris Gayle go unsold?
    Because he has been absolute crap recently. He could barely move when he toured here.

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    He's creaking for sure but he's still the cleanest six-hitter in the world (was launching them against us as recently as September). Surprised none of these mugs in for him whereas the myth BMac (whose T20 teams lose and lose and lose) a retained player.

    Most of the lazy West Indians starting to fall off a cliff now it has to be said and there isn't a Sri Lankan to be seen, but Afghans everywhere. Ten of them in the auction. They will be a major nation soon.

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    Afghan spinners have been dominating the BBL.

    Afghanistan having a chance at the top table can't come soon enough.

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    Rashid Khan went for 9 crore which is more than any spinner except for Narine, and the bafflingly overpriced Axar Patel.

    It's fascinating how there is a market for certain players and not others. I reckon most of the coaches/owners have no idea what they're doing. Steven Fleming and CSK don't have a single player under 30. How is Suresh Raina still commanding a premium price.

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    He's a very real shout at BBL MVP this year.

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    This South Africa match is properly good test cricket.

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    It's refreshing to see a pitch that actually does something, this is like a mid 90s effort.

    This is the first time I've ever seen Bumrash bowl well too.

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    Rashid Khan can’t be 19 ffs. Not that it matters like, Hogg has shown that.

    Jofra Archer going for over 1m and apparently he is desperate to play for England. In 2022

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    Afghanistan are currently in the semis of the U19 World Cup and I doubt any of them are under 19, to be honest.

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    Overseas count in the IPL auction:

    19 Australia
    10 South Africa
    8 England
    7 New Zealand
    7 West Indies
    4 Afghanistan
    1 Nepal
    1 Sri Lanka

    Mark Wood somehow getting a gig with the Chennai Super Mongs.

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    Tom Curran

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    For all that we looked lost during the ODI series, we might have a really decent T20 outfit. The team is really well-considered, and picked on BBL form as well as quality.

    The bowlers in particular really have this T20 thing down. If Stanlake comes on well, he could be very good indeed. 7 feet tall and 150 kph means he'll probably not make it at test level for fear of breaking down. It's a pity really.

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    T20Is are a crapshoot really as there are so few of them that a completely different set of people will be fit/in form by the time the next one rolls around.

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    When I checked the score a couple of days ago and saw Bangaladesh 374/4 I couldnt figure out if Sri Lanka were crap or it was a road. Herath had 0/100 so I was leaning mostly toward the latter.

    How right I was. Sri Lanka scored 713/9d in reply to Bangladeshe's 513. Fucking hell

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    And those two sets of cunts are why we can't have divisions of 6 or 8 with promo and rel, as we should.

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    "Call that a collapse, mates?"

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    Natwest Blast legends are going to exterminate their Big Bash counterparts.

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    Oh dear. As soon as this goes to the TV umpire the foreshortening effect kicks in and it looks like it’s hit the ground.
    That's what we call "hitting the ground", you biased wankers.

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    I've begun a meditation course which involves lying down flat and closing my eyes while listening to a looped recording of Nick Knight explaining the foreshortening effect.

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