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    MOEEN baby. The second fastest to the 100 wickets-2000 runs mark after Tony Greig


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Dawson currently looking like a Pattinson-level selection for this particular Test.
    Atleast he looked good in county cricket before we picked him

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    And tonight there is no actual Verdict programme at all.

    That's alright though, at least you're spending money on Scott Quinnell fucking about in New Zealand in his, and I quote, "beloved 'Fan Van.'"

    Fuck off, Sky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    MOEEN baby. The second fastest to the 100 wickets-2000 runs mark after Tony Greig

    I can't remember a more likeable England player in my time watching.

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    Pleased to see a few youngsters like Jonas Henriksen and Oliver Hald breaking into the Danish team.

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    What a review that was.

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    The only thing worse than England's top order constantly collapsing is it not collapsing and having to watch it stodge along at a match jeopardising rate.

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    Right then. Chef of Gallance to go first?

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    7-43

    Not watching but sounds like it's a bit of a minefield? Already got enough runs?

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    Dawson, I think, got a bit unlucky with the waist-high ball he got from Rabada and one or two after that there was one that was just a really good catch from the nearby fielder. The pitch was doing a bit and now SA are falling to bits so maybe we didn't do as bad as it looked.

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    Fucking love Mo

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    Came to express that very sentiment. What a man.

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    Cook's second innings effort looking a bit good now.

    Moeen is life.

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    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...-spinner-label

    I swear Bayliss just talks utter balls for a living.

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    I assume I'm reading that wrongly, because it doesn't have fucking sound like he's saying he actively doesn't consider a spinner he agrees to be our best to be our first choice.

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    England bowling and UNCHANGED which means another match for our number one spinner Liam 'enforce 'em' Dawson. South Africa I think bring in François 'Faf' du Plessis for JP Duminy, Chris Morris for Theunis de Bruyn and I presume Duanne Olivier for Rabada although I'm not sure on that one.

    Christ, just typing all that out makes me want to drag a wagon across red earth.

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    Hearing Shaun Pollock say Duanne Olivier has seriously broken my brain. Such a strange accent/language.

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    Let me guess. Dwann Olla Fear?

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    Pretty much

    Fancy Jimmy to run through these today.

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    Second spinner Moeen Ali enters the attack in the 45th over, after Dawson returns 3-0-19-0 from his three. FUCK YOU BAYLISS

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    Dawson is just shit tbh

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    I reckon there are twenty better spinners in England, and if it wasn't Friday afternoon I'd try and name them all. Moeen, Rayner, Crane, Batty, Leach, Kerrigan, Patel... I'm on a roll.

    Last night I came up against Amar Virdi (Surrey) in a club game and let me tell you, he will play for England. He also has a way bigger turban than Panesar.

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    I would go with an out-and-out batsman instead of Dawson. We don't need more than five frontline bowlers in a test match. Four seamers and one spinner at Trent Bridge is plenty and Root and Jennings can bowl a few overs if necessary.

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    Samit Patel is a ten times better batsman and he's at least as good a spinner - certainly would be better in the holding role.

    But he's fat.

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    There's a real aversion to picking anyone whose face doesn't fit. Once they decide, that's it, you're done for three years. What I can't work out is why Dawson's face does fit.

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    I like Patel and believe he'd be a better alternative to Dawson. Even someone like Scott Borthwick (playing mainly as a batter) or Tom Westley would be better options. I really like Mark Stoneman at Surrey so he'd be my choice.

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    I'm still getting over the excitement of watching Big Steve Finn kicking (and then swatting) Middlesex to victory against Jimmy's mob last night.

    I swear he though he was stone dead lbw off that first one he faced (well done umpire).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I reckon there are twenty better spinners in England, and if it wasn't Friday afternoon I'd try and name them all. Moeen, Rayner, Crane, Batty, Leach, Kerrigan, Patel... I'm on a roll.
    Just makes me think of Bob's "Simple Simon" line all over again.

    RIP The Verdict.

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    Root is so fucking good

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    Our run rate in this innings is a bit batshit.

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    That's a lovely ball to get Bairstow.

    Hopefully Broad delivers a swashbuckling 11.

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    Dawson's bat wasn't even in the same postcode as that. The fuck?

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    Bit brainless from Mo and chicken shit as usual from Broad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Dawson's bat wasn't even in the same postcode as that. The fuck?
    The reaction from the crowd when the rear-angle replay was shown was amazing.

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    Cricket Writers on TV has just reminded me about Hameed. What's going on with him?

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    Last time I checked he'd scored about 13 runs across the whole of the County Championship season thus far, but this is probably an outdated view now.

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    Oh. Hmm. He doesn't seem to be doing much, no.

    So how close are Ballance and/or Jennings to being replaced? And who, if anybody, would they be looking at bringing it?

    I guess Jennings is probably alright just now.

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    Well, it's tricky. I suppose Jennings only got the nod due to Hameed being injured, and so you could justify removal if his poor form persists. The problem of Hameed being woefully out of touch does make things a bit problematic. The whole batting line-up looks wrong to me. I don't like Bairstow at 5 (if he's the 'keeper), I don't like the major delineation between plodders (1-3) and dashers (5-7/8). Root should bat at 3, but only if you can find a proper 4. I think even switching Root and Baz Gallaz would be better.

    Cook, OPENER, Root, BATSMAN, BATSMAN, Stokes, Bairstow, Moeen, BOWLER, Broad, Anderson.

    You either trust Moeen as your spinner, or you move him into a batting role. BOWLER can be situational, although failing a raging bunsen where you want 2 spinners it should be Woakes. Bairstow can move up into a batting role as well if you give the gloves to Buttler. I'd still be tempted to give Hales a go in the middle order.

    Cook, Hameed, Root, Bairstow, Hales, Stokes, Buttler*, Moeen, Woakes, Broad, Anderson

    There are probably more deserving people that could be put in, but I like that format for the team.

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    A steadier hand than Hales is probably the order of the day at 5 there though.

    Someone like Steve Waugh, or Gallant Barry.

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    If you go with the idea that Hameed is the future at opener do you just put him in now (if Jennings doesn't show any sign of sorting his life out) or do you wait until he's doing better domestically again?

    I agree with you about the change of pace after 3 though.Our middle order is a bit of a glass cannon at the moment.

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    Englands premier spinner coming up big

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    Root stays at 4 you'd imagine. I've heard the long-term plan was Hameed 2 Jennings 3.

    Cook
    Hameed
    Jennings
    Root
    Stokes
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    Ali
    Specialist Keeper allowing Bairstow to focus on batting / 2nd spinner / another seamer / just throw in another batter at 5 and shift everyone down one
    3rd seemer - Wood / Ball / TR-J / Woakes fuck knows I don't follow county cricket
    Broad
    Anderson

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    Move everyone up one and bat Foakes at 7 and give him the gloves. Maybe that's a bit too attacking.

    Could do with a Collingwood type middle order battler to balance the stroke makers.

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    Commentators banging on about getting us in for the night.

    Why bother? Why not bat out the day at least and just set that slightly higher target? There's not a fucking chance we're batting for two days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Move everyone up one and bat Foakes at 7 and give him the gloves. Maybe that's a bit too attacking.

    Could do with a Collingwood type middle order battler to balance the stroke makers.
    No Bayliss side will ever select a middle order battler. It's all about ATTACK.

    Our issue is a lack of steel/competitiveness, too many limp dicks. It makes for a team that either wins comfortably or gets demolished - fair weather shite.

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    After Sri Lanka lost the ODI series to Zimbabwe, they're looking ropey in the test match now.

    Had them on the ropes when the fifth wicket fell, but Zimbabwe steadied well.

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    I want to see Afghanistan get involved in a Test match or two now they have status. Reckon they'd give Sri Lanka/Bangladesh/West Indies a proper game.

    Tougher for Ireland, I'm not sure they could take 20 top class wickets in ten days, never mind five.

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    Jennings in the bin I reckon. Durham could do with some help anyway.

    Off work and in the mood for a grim Chef dig-in.

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    We need 3-4 changes (genuinely, not the usual 'drop whoever' madness) but I reckon we'll be UNCHANGED, or failing that swap Wood for Finn (or something equally uninspiring).

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    That's a fairly tragic dismissal for Jennings in a supposed rearguard action.

    Get Hameed back. At least he's right handed.

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