Yeah, the BBC was messing with my head with its article date.
Anyway, Vaughan's comment:
is pointedly lol.I honestly think Steve Smith & Cam Bancroft are decent guys who had a moment of madness .. they deserve a 2nd chance and hopefully get the right support around them now
Does everyone hate Warner?
Pretty much.
Imagine if this whole tampering thing has a butterfly effect on tax reform?
I reckon Smith has laid the groundwork for redemption with that press conference. Did I hear right that it's the Ashes (AGAIN) next summer (2019)? Really? First series back and star as they retain the urn in England for the first time this century (ok, ok, first time for nigh on 20 years)?
I can definitely see him having a feel-good redemption at our expense. Probably rather it happened here as well as our crowds will give him standing ovations which I don't think you get anywhere else for away players.
I remember being at Lord's once when Amla got about 700, hardly a dry eye in the house at every milestone bat-raise.
To be honest it sounds like Warner is the school bully (probably egged on by 'Boof' and others) and Smith wasn't strong enough to stand up to him. He hardly comes across as an alpha male at the best of times.
Very much echoes of Kim Hughes, tearfully bullied out of the captaincy in that side that had harder men/bigger dickheads in Marsh, Lillee et al.
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Oddly reckon the sympathy has probably now gone over the top, just as the opprobrium initially did.
Finding out Weetabix is owned by a legitimate, in the eyes of the law, church is the most interesting thing in this whole story and that's without factoring in that the whole thing revolves around cricket.
Plus you've gone soft as a country.Originally Posted by ItalAussie
Oh god that was unbearable. He was batting for about three weeks.
I can't have been worse than those Smith innings.
Someone is getting a career saving ton here, I'm just not sure who.
Probably James Fucking Vince.
Cook shitting it again, Vince strides in.
Yaaaaay.
We used to have the Trott photo, now all we have is this.
Stokes able to bowl then or is the 5th a combo of Vince and Root?
Stokes probably not bowling. If Vince fucking bowls then someone needs to stage an intervention. Michael Holding's furious seethe at Vince's bowling a few summers back was one of the best pieces of commentary ever. It all went silent for a bit as he trundled away, whoever was in the box said 'What's up Mikey?' and he said in his inimitable voice THIS IS NOT BOWLING. THIS IS PATHETIC.
The sympathy since that press conference. What a load of bollocks. Why do people fool for it.
Another thing, people seem happy to let slide that the bowlers and other team mates most likely knew what was going on. If you were a bowler, surely you'd know if someone was scuffing up the ball with sandpaper.
This Warner press conference is fucking pathetic.
The old hide behind your wife trick.
De Kock stung by a bee while going for a stumping chance. This series truly has it all.
England and NZ doing nothing to contest the fact they are both two bowler teams.
I'm trying to think what Jimmy Anderson wicket milestone would make Australians seethe the most. Going past McGrath? Only 34 more needed.
The more he takes, the less they count.
Our top order really is woeful at the moment. At least you guys have Cook who should eventually come good again.
That makes both us
Cook is worrying, I saw this posted somewhere else before this test.
'Since the start of 2017 he's averaged 41.5 but that includes two double hundreds. Take those out and it's 21.3. Obviously you get judged on the total average but it is worrying that aside from the double tons he's only got two 50s in the other 22 innings.
Since the start of the Ashes it's 38.3 with the unbeaten double, 13.9 without it.'
We need to keep him in until he dies just to make sure he overtakes Sachin's run record. Not like there are any better openers about anyway.
Also, is this the longest away tour ever? Seems like you guys have been on the road for the whole year now.
Doesn't fuss me, to be honest. It's like the Tendulkar thing. If you play for long enough, the records will go eventually. Averages always beat raw numbers.
Alistair Cook could easily end up cricket's highest run-scorer without averaging 50, or even particularly close to it.
Por que no los dos?
Indians will be bothered if he gets to 15,922. Very bothered.
At his current rate it would take him another 70 tests. 100 if the daddy hundreds he chucks in disappear.
Just watched I think the worst hour of Test cricket I can remember. New Zealand deliberately wasting time, and England inexplicably blocking.
Williamson and Root are both poor captains unfortunately.
10 minute drinks break was a laugh as well.
Well at least England are chucking some wickets to move the game forward...
I'm trying to work out what our 'plan' was. Bat to 300 lead and then go? Bat to lunch and then go? Both stupidly ultra-conservative.
Poor old Ish Sodhi not getting a look in because the twelve man attack of Boult, Southee, de Grandhomme, Gavin Larsen, Dion Nash, Chris Harris, Brent Arnel, Daryl Tuffey, Jeremy Coney et al need to shit out 11 overs per hour.
Jacob Oram into the attack.
Pitch looks dead anyway don’t fancy us winning tbh no matter how this third innings pans out.
I think I'd rather be in some sort of Room 101 scenario with my eyelids pinned open being forced to watch a loop of England v Sri Lanka at the 2011 World Cup for the rest of my life than have to watch Colin de Grandhomme amble in ever again.
"Disciplined medium pace".
3 wickets this innings to be fair.
Kiwi commentators have spent the last 45 minutes dreaming up awful alternative DRS systems because they're seething about Kane burning the reviews on shite, and then Bairstow nicking off and not being given.
Only half listening but I think they've just decided it should always be out and then the batsman should have the option to challenge. Mental.
Some truly electric cricket from Du Plessis and South Africa today as well
612, I have so much time for that. Never change, South Africa.
Series is won and they are a bowler down. Can’t blame em really.
Morkel is about to sign for Surrey so a serious injury was inevitable. Bet he can't wait to challenge Jade Dernbach for a place in the red ball side.
Poor old Uzzy falling into the well worn trap of giving Nigel Llong an opportunity to get on camera.
Classic Broad spell incoming?
Getting up to see that we'd given up and let Malan have the ball for a laugh was heartening.
I don't think a single delivery of his that I saw was threatening.
So what's the deal with playing part-time spinners in the final hour?
Sure, Anderson will get through fewer overs, but he'd still surely be more likely to take a wicket than Malan?
Hoping the batsman lose concentration and hit a stupid shot. Game of chances I suppose.
Malan was literally offering nothing from what I saw, though. Root has managed to snag a few wickets before and generally looks like he's trying something even if he's not good enough to pull it off all the time. Malan was just bowling a commendably consistent line while offering the square root of bugger all by way of a threat.
I figured we were having to bowl spin because of the light but saw no mention of it on the cricinfo comms
It was the case at the end of day 4, but not sure about day 5.
To be honest, I didn't even realise this was a rule.
The umpires say that it's spin or bust. Too dark for the quicks. Over to you Jack Leach
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Broad to Latham, no run, round the wicket, outside off, through to the keeper
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