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    Hasn't our bowling so far been a bit suspect so far?

    A 350+ target for Bangladesh maybe doable.

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    Even now they'd need one of the top 20 biggest run chases in ODI history.

    We'll be fine.

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    Yeah, they were never interested in getting it. Sensibly just went for net run rate damage limitation.

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    Well that will do nicely.

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    Warner channelling Gavaskar vs England in ‘75 here. He may “catch up” though admittedly.

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    He’s ran Finch out now. He better catch up.

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    Hopefully that will trigger an Aussie meltdown.

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    Pakistan have been shambolic so far, but there's a wicket.

    The Prof.

    Malik throwing down no balls is beyond inexplicable.

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    Bit of a collapso this. Imagine if Pakistan (Amir aside) had actually shown up for the first 30 overs?

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    Needs a Fakhar special here. Can't wait to see Misbah's delight from that room Cricinfo seem to be holding him in at gunpoint.

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    Jesus, they've made a bit of a mess of this since I tuned in. Chase with ease or collapse in a heap, guess it comes down to how well they go in the first 10 to 15 overs.

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    If Pakistan pull this off I'm getting smashed in their honour.

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    Pakistan were never going to win that one and never will win a game chasing a target against the better sides in the competition. They are a team that needs to bat first and then defend the target.

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    As is pretty much every team when it comes to serious cricket. This bowl first obsession is mental.

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    Where does it come from?

    There aren't that many really high successful chases so I don't understand what the thinking is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Where does it come from?

    There aren't that many really high successful chases so I don't understand what the thinking is.
    I think it's come from just this year alone. England have chased 340+ successfully 3 times this year already, and Australia chased 359 with 2 overs to spare in India.

    What gets missed is they make up 4 of the top 11 ODI chases of all time. Just because England have made a habit of it recently doesn't make it a sure thing.

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    And those are all in bilateral shitfests. Add a dose of World Cup pressure and it's a very different story.

    Still early days in this tournament but the highest chase so far was New Zealand getting 245 against Bangladesh and that was a close run thing. Batsmen consistently throw their wickets away with scoreboard pressure in play.
    Last edited by Jimmy Floyd; 13-06-2019 at 08:13 AM.

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    Reading some of this Cook and Swann(y) Q&A on TMS.

    Talking about the Ashes and Swann says "Please tell me James Vince has an England future?"

    It's fine, Graeme, I'm sure we can find somebody to nick off the exact moment he gets to 24 runs every single time.

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    The seethe from Indian fans over the awful weather this week is truly fantastic.

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    It's benefited them if anything.

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    What the fuck is wrong with the ECB? There's absolutely nothing they can do about rain, but for fucks sake invest in better drainage and ground staff, I mean it rains so damn often every single year, it's not rocket science.
    We all knew this was gonna happen , the last two ICC in England sucked.

    I was just shocked who condscending some fans were. " WaIT tILl tHe ToUrnMEnt stArTs bEfORe yOu CoMPlain AboUt THe RaIN!! ".

    We are here know and it sucks. I just wish ECB didn't have so much power. The same people who were behind Project Snow.
    You know ECB chose not to invest in basic tarpaulin and other drying infrastructure. Stadiums in India even have undersoil heating for accelerated evaporation

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    We have brilliant drainage at all our grounds. They should have seen how it was in the old days.

    It has famously never rained in India.

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    I love how there seems to be a random rain cloud lolling around the UK washing out matches whilst it's fine everywhere else.

    Hope it doesn't pitch up here on Saturday when the serious business of Norway v Italy gets under way at 10.45. Any other attendees are welcome to pop in for a beer as I live across the road from the ground (although I'll be at the ground, so we may have to work that out).

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    So Somerset beat Kent by 10 wickets in a game that went the full four days yet there was only four sessions played and 120.1 overs bowled in the entire match. We are now 26 points clear in the county championship.

    We bowled Kent out for 59 in their final innings reducing them from 24/2 at resumption after days of rain to 59 all out in about an hour. Gregory 5/21, Overton 3/7. We are unstoppably good this season.

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    All our batsmen going lame

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    Just do the batting order in reverse.

    Roy coming in at 11, 98-9.

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    Can someone explain to me why Rashid bowled 10 overs while Woakes only bowled five and Wood wouldn't have completed his allocation? Seems a bit odd.

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    They will have matchup data for the various batsmen which will inform a lot of their bowling decisions. Brathwaite and a few others will show up as pony vs leg spin.

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    Root and Stokes took a few from the main bowler’s quota as well. Goldenarm Joe Love him being listed as off break/leg break on cricinfo.

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    I saw footage of Steve Smith practising off spin in the nets. He's clearly jealous.

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    If Roy is crocked I’d leave it like this and have Root open. Bring Moeen back into the top 7. Cba with Vince but you just know he’ll come in and make 75(73) against Afghanistan and be inked in for a litany of 20-30 scores against the decent sides.

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    24, Max. I'm convinced that it's exactly 24 about 90% of the time.

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    And in exactly the same way every time.

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    Woakes up at three

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    And in exactly the same way every time.
    Every single time.

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    He has a face for failure. Unlike Chris Woakes, who has the face of history's leading all-round cricketer.

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    Who was it on here who was a leading Woakes advocate back in the day?

    Rashid was a bit unlucky, should have had Russell (I'm not having this 'Dre Russ' business) and was then deposited for consecutive sixes after he was dropped, and was clearly left on at the end to bamboozle the lower order, which he did (although he was being dead batted for the most part).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    He has a face for failure.
    I might see if I can donate one of my chins to him seeing as his looks like it stopped developing at birth.

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    Also, Andre Russell somehow managing to bat like more of a dickhead than he did against Australia was some going.

    I suppose there's a way to go, but it feels like if the weather continues like it has with these damp conditions then it might be hard for the mighty Mo to get back in the full side (short of Roy or Morgan being fully dead from their ailments). Guess he and Vince come in to deal with Afghanistan.

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    Think we need an upset tomorrow from someone. At the moment it's just a comfortable cruise to the semis for England, India, Australia and New Zealand. The Asian sides can't cope with the moving ball to the point where I see Sri Lanka have put in an official complaint about it.

    https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cri...235-2019-06-14

    We should try that one next time we go to India.

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    It's hard to see past those four teams given how the table looks at the moment, but maybe a Pakistan win on Sunday could put the cat among the pigeons to some extent. No one is going to win enough games unless one of India, Australia or England somehow have all their remaining games against the shite washed out, and even then it'd be a stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Who was it on here who was a leading Woakes advocate back in the day?

    Rashid was a bit unlucky, should have had Russell (I'm not having this 'Dre Russ' business) and was then deposited for consecutive sixes after he was dropped, and was clearly left on at the end to bamboozle the lower order, which he did (although he was being dead batted for the most part).
    I thought there would be some logic behind it, was at work all day so only saw the scorecard really.

    We're looking good to reach the semi finals but I'm sure we'll find a way to mess it up somewhere along the line.

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    I think Australia/New Zealand are a lot more vulnerable than England and India. I say that although we have already borked a game and the others haven't, but Australia have been pretty jammy so far and that will catch up with them in the end, while New Zealand have hard games remaining. If NZ lose to us, Aus and India then that could be the opening for someone else, though it's hard to say who.

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    I've just plugged all my expected results into a thing and it comes out as 1 India 2 England 3 Australia 4 NZ and then a big gap to Pak/Windies, so it will probably need several upsets to be any different. Here's hoping, although those semi-finals would be class.

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    The India/NZ washout hasn't done the chasing pack any favours.

    England are, by far, the best team in terms of available personnel (Morgan and Roy being dead notwithstanding), no one else even comes close to the quality of the batting line-up, and the bowling is catching up with the rest with Archer. Even the game we stuffed up we had a couple of centurions and nearly chased a tournament record score (probably should have) after doing pretty much everything else wrong. I think it'll take England throwing in a genuine stinker to get turned over by anyone other than India. We all know that's well within our capability - but more likely against a mercurial side (Pakistan, the Windies) than against more of a contender nation.

    Will probably bin it against the Afghans now, somehow.

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    Now this could get interesting.

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    TV on mute, Sri Lankan national anthem (extended edition) on the speakers.

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    They'll probably get over the line, but Australia have approached this game in a very England circa whenever we were really shit way. No faith in slow bowling and, whilst it's objectively a good score, their entire innings felt as if they were just batting to get to a level they hoped would be enough (set the platform) rather than really pushing it. i don't see how you can have Warner batting the way he does against better teams. It feels like in most of their games they've been relying on the other side to fuck up more than going out and winning it on their own terms.

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    I know I'm probably 100% wrong, but I never like these periods of consolidation where a team lets the rate creep back up after getting well ahead of it. To break the back of the chase you need to get it down to double digits asap, rather than banking on 8 an over for 10 at the end, even if that's par for the course these days.

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    Yeah, the prevailing thought seems to be that having wickets available in the last 10 overs is what matters, when a cursory glance at the Australia batting performances would tell you that particular logic is flawed.

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