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    Renshaw at first drop could work. Let Khawaja and Finch put on whatever they can, then Renshaw bunks down for the long haul. I'm pretty much down with that.

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    Nathan Lyon running riot.

    Has he been threatening to end any careers of late?

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    Jimmy's call on this Abbas fella looking solid. He's top notch.

    Meanwhile, why are we touring Sri Lanka in what I assume to be their wet season? I guess this, like all non-Ashes/India series, is just the collateral damage of the modern calendar.

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    Hypocrite Warner left the field when he was on 35 due to a sledge. The bloke is cooked.

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    Do we know what the sledge was?

    I love that the other team let him come back (probably with a wry smile) to bat but the thing I read there suggests that because there was no injury the umpires should have told him he was gone. Is that right?

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    You can carry on with the fielding captain's permission. If no permission then he would be retired out.

    Pretty sure that law is designed for things like your car setting on fire or a family medical emergency, though, rather than flouncing off because someone called you names.

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    Had he not let him back on would the fielding captain have been moaned at about some spirit-of-the-game stuff?

    Actually probably not because it's Warner and nobody likes him but what about generally?

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    Depends on the context, I guess. The law says from memory something about 'illness, injury or other unavoidable reason' being the cases where you can retire not out, in which case you have received the umpire's permission. I can't think of it ever happening in any cricket I've watched or been part of where there's been a dispute. I once played in a game when an opposition player was 60* and walked off the park to go to a wedding, I think I was captain on that occasion, had the bride not shown up and he had hot-footed it back to the ground to resume his innings would I have let him back on? Probably would.

    I've always thought there should be more (by which I of course mean 'any') retiring out in T20 when batsmen get bogged down towards the end and big hitters are waiting in the wings.

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    Sri Lanka have picked for this T20 a guy who bowls with both arms, and we are smoking them nonetheless.

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    Tactical retirements in those sorts of situations sounds like the sort of thing the ECB would be both all over and dreadful at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Sri Lanka have picked for this T20 a guy who bowls with both arms, and we are smoking them nonetheless.
    I assume you mean he's ambidextrous and not that he's doing some sort of throw-in style overhead delivery?

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    You would be correct.

    This is him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuiQ4Tr2NMM

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    Fuck me dead Warner has hid behind his wife for a second time with her appearance on 9 this morning.

    Her claim that there is a difference between abuse and sledging is not helping him at all. So when Warner hands it out it is sledging and when he cops it is abuse. Weak as piss!

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    Fairfax Media understands Hughes said to Warner "you're a disgrace, you shouldn't be playing cricket"

    ....is that it? Did it not occur to him that when you're done for cheating there's a chance people might slag you off about it?

    Get a backbone, dickhead.

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    Phil Hughes's brother that said it as well, it's like narrative numberwang.

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    He is hated amongst the common man down here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I've always thought there should be more (by which I of course mean 'any') retiring out in T20 when batsmen get bogged down towards the end and big hitters are waiting in the wings.
    I can't remember which match now, but there have definitely been ODIs where I've been thinking that the player at one end is so out of touch that getting out and not using up any balls makes the most sense. I guess you can just go for a six off every ball though - you'll either pick up the rate or get out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Tactical retirements in those sorts of situations sounds like the sort of thing the ECB would be both all over and dreadful at.
    This is truth.

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    The game you're thinking of is each of MS Dhoni's last 40 games. Can you imagine the balls it would take to pull him out at a packed Chepauk. Kohli is up to the challenge.

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    This 'Elite Honesty' banner in the Australian dressing room is something else. We're witnessing a profound spasm in the national psyche.

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    I don't even know where to begin with this.

    That said, do kids here still play cricket? It seems like it might be about ten years behind where rugby is now.

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    Like here, cricket in Aus is still absolutely massive within its own sphere but now has absolutely no idea how to reach outside that (largely due to continually appointing conventional marketeers who are trained in pushing toothpaste or trainers, when sport is absolutely not a 'product' or even an 'experience' in the conventional sense. It's a passion that people live rather than purchase).

    Cricket does best when the people running it shut the fuck up, stop tinkering and let the game speak for itself. This cultural review stuff in Australia is embarrassing. Everyone at CA should be rounded up and shot, along with most ex-players, and then Ed Cowan should be given the keys.

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    Suburban Cricket is played on every available ground during its season, exactly the same as Union and League. At grassroots level it is as strong as it has ever been.
    Last edited by Queenslander; 05-11-2018 at 12:16 AM.

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    Despite the headlines, club cricket is still absolutely huge here as well. Incredible things happen at grassroots level on a massive scale. Being very involved in that, it feels to me like the pro game is becoming more and more distant from it every year, and it's actually the pro game, not us, that suffers.

    Aussie grade cricket is an enormous subculture and incredibly healthy, but CA just are not interested in it whatsoever.

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    Up at 430 to watch this morning. Main takeaway is that foakes is as sweaty as I am after a brisk walk.

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    I forgot it was starting today and only when checking the news before I left for work saw the very England score of 199-6. Not bad given what it turns out we were at though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by igor_balis View Post
    Up at 430 to watch this morning. Main takeaway is that foakes is as sweaty as I am after a brisk walk.
    I've eschewed the early starts this time, though it is very evocative of my life to turn the TV on for a pitch-black 4am November morning, the blue Sri Lankan sky the only source of light in the whole house, the staccato hits of Russell Arnold's voice knocking my brain in like it were a newly pressed bat.

    We are shit and Root is a shit captain.

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    Is there any radio coverage of this?

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    Talkshite. I had the 'Cricket Social' on earlier and it was pretty entertaining.

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    Mark Nicholas has mixed up Foakes with Stokes about 50 times during his commentary stints. He also can't bear to have a second of silence, it's a bombardment on the ears.

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    No matter what happens we are destined to lose with it being Big Rangy Herath’s last ever game. Even with this decent first innings he will clearly take 6-20 in the second innings to end on a high before starting back up at the Galle National Bank on Monday morning. I won’t begrudge him it either.

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    Foakes and Curran dragging us back in has certainly made me feel warm and fuzzy. As well as my feud with Rory Burns's dad, I also have on my CV a late night drinking sesh with Ben Foakes's brother. The other Foakes is just as good looking, if not more so.

    Sadly no rubbish Curran anecdotes, even though they all played club cricket a mile from me. I'll try and acquire one.

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    Applications for the England managing director job close on November 16, with Ashley Giles and Wasim Khan expected to be among the frontrunners. Mike Atherton, the former England captain and current cricket correspondent at the Times, is also understood to be considering applying having been encouraged to do so by top officials at the ECB.
    Please, God, deliver this to me.

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    45/58. It says a lot about me that the first name I chucked in there was Amjad Khan.

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    I got 42, spelled Shazad wrong and forgot all of the 2017 debutants

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    I was OK on the modern stuff but had happily blanked out the Blackwell-Mahmood era. I also spent about two minutes trying to remember Gary Ballance's name. Is this what old age will be like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queenslander View Post
    Suburban Cricket is played on every available ground during its season, exactly the same as Union and League. At grassroots level it is as strong as it has ever been.
    I'm glad to hear that, at least. It seemed like the sort of thing that parents wouldn't bother with now.

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    There was a Sydney club game yesterday which somehow managed to feature all of Davey Warner, Steve Smith, Shane Watson, Daniel Bell-Drummond and Austen Waugh.

    Deadly Dave obviously chopped the latter to point for 10 or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalAussie View Post
    I'm glad to hear that, at least. It seemed like the sort of thing that parents wouldn't bother with now.
    I forgot to say a big problem is that kids want to play 20/20 instead of long form.

    Grassroots is strong across all of our traditional sports.

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