Bangers have a huge inferiority complex against India. They aren’t winning this. As evidenced by that absolute shocker of a drop.
Bangers have a huge inferiority complex against India. They aren’t winning this. As evidenced by that absolute shocker of a drop.
Here comes Dhoni to swashbuckle India to victory.
All the other subcontinent teams do. Rock stars.Originally Posted by Max Power
Kohli can fuck right off screaming at the umpire about a DRS not going his way. Should be his tournament over really (obviously won't be).
I see Dhoni has left the field after less than 10 overs, this Indian side is like a corruption machine.
Has Dhoni left the field so they can conveniently bring on a really good fielder?
Yes, although taking off Iron Gloves Dhoni to do it is a new level of shamelessness.
Debating a huge bet on Bangladesh to win here. Don't think I'll have the bottle, but it's a war between my cynicism and Ravi Shastri's moral compass, and it's a war to the bitter end.
Think they’ve fucked it now. A batter short today and the rate is climbing.
Amazing.
Has anyone chased anything of note in this World Cup? Rather turned the zeitgeist on its head.
Bangladesh chased 320 against the West Indies but after that it’s a load of totals they’d have cruised in the 80s.
Nasser always says 'runs on the board in a final' and that applies to basically any World Cup game. Evidently not to first Ashes Tests, but whatever.
Batting at this level is hard enough without having to think about the sums at the same time.
But what if you've really managed to convince yourself that you can chase anything?
Today will either be great or an utter disaster. Here's hoping we win the toss and ****ing bat.
Kiwis will win this I reckon.
Batting first and no Lockie Ferguson.
Can't see us winning this. Southee is going to be smashed all around the park.
We should make the semifinals, which I'm still very proud of.
Bairstow looking in good nick. Who can he start a fight with before the semis?*
* if we get there
I reneg
Why are we batting second like COWARDS?
He needs to call out Tendulkar as a fraud or something, let the responses rile him up.
"England have scored seven hundreds in this tournament. That is as many in the previous eight World Cups combined."
Lol.
Feel like we're completely chucking this away. Williamson to make 100* to run the Kiwis to victory.
We were 194-1 after 30... and have scored 65-5 in the next 15.
This has gone well.
But as we were saying, no one has really chased this tournament. 300 a very good score in a crunch World Cup game.
Although no doubt this is the game Guptill, Taylor and everyone find form
True, but I'm so naturally negative about England in these tough situations. Realistically, this is a good score on a pitch that is slowing up. Woakes and Plunkett should hopefully do the business with some cutters/slower balls.
305 should be plenty, unless Williamson gets 150*.
Umpire S Ravi and his trigger finger doing its patriotic duty as well.
Christ, that sounds like it was lucky.
No shits given, though.
Are they actually in danger of collapsing to such a degree they allow Pakistan to take a run at the big NRR gap?
Actually no surely it’s borderline impossible they fail to qualify.
Are there any implications for us beyond win-and-we're-through?
Do we need to care about what happens in other matches if we win this?
Nope win and we are through and will play at Edgbaston next Thursday. Almost certainly against India.
So what you're telling me is that it's COMING HOME?
Without doubt
We can still lose this, then India at Edgbaston followed by Australia at Lords is a right pain in the arse route to winning it. Why isn't every game at Trent Bridge? Or, at a push, the Ageas or whatever it is called these days?
Australia at Lord's is a nightmare final. Hopefully the Bangla boys do the decent thing and get themselves bowled out for 10 to let Pakistan in.
South Africa beat a rotated Australia into second and we beat them at fortress Edgbaston before India chase 350 against us in the final at Lords with Ravi Shastri spinning his shirt above his head in the away balcony.
Are New Zealand in danger of spaffing this up for themselves on the net run rate?
If you don't let de Grandhomme get away with his shite (both bat and ball) then they're soft as shit and have looked so all tournament.
Hopefully they have it in them to ambush Australia somehow, but I really can't see it.
Nope, current standing is that Pakistan would need to bat first, get 400 and then bowl the Bangla Boys out for 14.
I must admit I have absolutely no idea how net run rate works. Could they not bowl Bangladesh out cheaply and then knock them off superfast, or does it not work like that? I always thought being rolled cheaply/not batting your overs was fatal for the old net run rate.
Feels a bit shit for Pakistan that they're going to get bonked out of this (in all likelihood) on the back of New Zealand having their game against India washed out. They had South Africa on the run in the game they lost to rain as well, didn't they?
New Zealand have been complete pikeys throughout this tournament. Had one good game early doors against Sri Lanka, and since then it's been pure luck + some Williamson runs.
Top decision by the council to put the big screen on for Sri Lanka's weekend game and not this one.
Seeing that freak Williamson wicket yesterday and then people getting shirty about mankads when they happy is there any reason as a batsman that it's really worth the risk of leaving your ground a moment before the man on-strike starts running?
I'd say you probably steal an extra run doing it a lot more often than you get out doing it. It is a risk, though.
Yeah and given how infrequently that run is going to be decisive it just seems like trying to gain an edge for it's own sake rather than because it's actually worth the risk that is small in likelihood but potentially catastrophic in consequence.
Every run counts. Williamson has probably walked out of his ground as the non-striker (tens of) thousands of times, and stolen hundreds of quick singles on the back of it, whereas he has been out once due to it. He'd have been run out a lot more times if he wasn't backing up properly, I would imagine.
Not doing it would be like saying why bother diving in the outfield to save a run when you could be injured (I'm sure this point was made yesterday as Wood launched himself into the advertising boardings when the NZ goose was already well and truly cooked).
You're probably right with the numbers about doing it thousands of times to gain hundreds of runs but all that means is that the majority of the time it's for nought, and surely a decent proportion of those singles would have been successfully run anyway?
I look at it this way: If an England batsman got out in an important match because of something unlikely that could have been easily prevented I'd be annoyed. If we missed out on a chance of a single not because he's not reacted quickly enough but because he hasn't already ambled a few yards down the wicket I wouldn't blame him.
But then how do you even weigh that against the game where you fall short by a run or two. I guess it's not possible to say which is right or wrong because the numbers to refer to would be nearly impossible to determine so it's just a gut thing.
Though I suppose if any mad statisticians were going to go through the numbers and deem it too risky then the ECB would have done it by now and formed a Plan around it.
It's just like walking in as a fielder. You do it. I don't think it's some received wisdom thing which is actually really harmful. Sometimes it means the ball goes over you head by a fraction and had you stood on your heals you could have caught it. But the other 99% of the time it gives you an advantage, so you go with the numbers.
The problem wasn't so much losing their best player to a freak occurrence as it was that he was their only capable batsman so they were fucked whichever way that particular incident went.
I always think the same about getting snaffled down the leg side. Awful way to go, just leave it alone for a wide, but it's easier said than done. Same for Morgan and the short ball. Let them bowl it, he's a midget so it'll probably be a wide and then they can't do it again in the over. But it is a game of risk and if you try to mitigate them all you end up 89-1 after 50 overs.
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