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    I've never played any of the Fallout or Skyrim or whatevers but I'm tempted by this due to all the excitement around it. How sci-fi is it? I'm alright with post-apocalypse and all that but can't be doing with a load of monsters and aliens.

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    Fairly sci-fi. It's got monster-y things (mainly mutated version of actual animals and then a few different forms of mutated humans) and quite a lot of robots but aliens aren't really a thing outside of a few easter egg type things you can find.

    Very annoyed my copy didn't turn up today so I could get the inevitable 14 hours of patching and downloading out of the way before I could play it. I do miss it when you could literally just pop the game in and get going.

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    While I'm the first to bang on about scores not being important with reviews, quite a few read like 6/7s whilst doling out 9s. Quite a lot of jank, bugginess, glitches, hard locks, crashes, poor animation etc. If it was a smaller dev, this would be getting way more flak.

    Its not just this series that that pisses me off about btw, see Halo: MCC and the fact it was pretty much fucking broken for the first six months and the reviews it got (95 on Polygon oh fucking boy). Kinda highlights how useless the majority of reviews are these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wullie View Post
    I've never played any of the Fallout or Skyrim or whatevers but I'm tempted by this due to all the excitement around it. How sci-fi is it? I'm alright with post-apocalypse and all that but can't be doing with a load of monsters and aliens.
    There's monsters by the boatload, mostly fairly recognisable mutated versions of real world stuff alongside the human bandits etc.

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    Giant Bomb's quick look is concerned about the jank but Brad goes on about, "Well, they're dealing in scale."

    7 years on the same tech. Same problems.

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    From the reviews I've seen it's very much evolutionary, not revolutionary. If you liked FO3 then this is more of the same, but with a bunch of the gripes and annoyances fixed and a bunch still there.

    The Giant Bomb video review is worth looking at to get an idea of it Wullie.

    Mine hasn't turned up yet so hopefully it'll be here tomorrow.

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    I think this is what I'm going to start with:

    S - 3
    P - 4
    E - 5
    C - 4
    I - 6
    A - 3
    L - 3

    Good all-rounder with the smarts to build fancy equipment (I'm quite excited by the crafting) but robust enough to deal with a ruck.

    Built with: http://vault111.com/character/

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    What difficulty is everyone planning on playing on?
    I'm a twit

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    Whatever the default is. I can't be arsed with a brutal slog, although I'm sure Yev will, the masochist

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    Yev's also going to play 700 hours of it so it makes sense that he'd want to slow his progress at least a touch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    What difficulty is everyone planning on playing on?
    Survival. For me, if you want to experience the harshness of the wasteland then it's the only way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soldier View Post
    While I'm the first to bang on about scores not being important with reviews, quite a few read like 6/7s whilst doling out 9s. Quite a lot of jank, bugginess, glitches, hard locks, crashes, poor animation etc. If it was a smaller dev, this would be getting way more flak.

    Its not just this series that that pisses me off about btw, see Halo: MCC and the fact it was pretty much fucking broken for the first six months and the reviews it got (95 on Polygon oh fucking boy). Kinda highlights how useless the majority of reviews are these days.
    They read like 7/10 reviews if those things are deal breakers for you. If they're not, then 9/10 is fine. Acknowledging that it's a fucking good game, albeit one with room for improvement still.

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    There's been room for improvement for 7 years now. They've just doubled down on 'hours of content'

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    Not trusting Royal Mail, gonna head out and get a midnight release

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    They read like 7/10 reviews if those things are deal breakers for you. If they're not, then 9/10 is fine.
    Leaving Fallout out of this, in general, they're not really. The majority still go and play a game/see a movie based off a quick headline sentence and a score. See Spectre for holy shit amazing reviews and very meh reactions from most of the audience.

    I'd just like out and out honesty in reviews and if they're gonna give a bloody number, make it reflective of what they write, but then in the age of money talks its never gonna happen.

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    8% installed

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    Going in..

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    I'm so glad I don't have work tomorrow..

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    04:49 am
    I'm a twit

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    Games unlocked on steam and loaded up. Even if my internet dies tonight Fallout will be working in offline mode!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demerit View Post
    I'm so glad I don't have work tomorrow..
    First impressions Dem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    First impressions Dem?
    It is so fucking good.

    Without spoiling anything, I wish there was a little more pre-vault leaving stuff. But that's my only complaint.

    Combat is improved, dialogue is excellent, the animations are actually good, I personally love the graphics, the world is a million times nicer to be in than F3, the settlement building is actually quite fun.

    I put in 5 hours last night, just loading it up now so I'm going to spend the day wandering about. If the quests are fun then this could easily be a 500 hour life drainer for me.

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    How fun will that stuff be when you're trawling back to defend your base every 10 minutes?

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    Can I suggest people who aren't actually playing the game and not contributing to discussion would be better off not posting in the thread repeatedly? Ok, we get it - it's an imperfect game. It's becoming tedious now.

    Tesco have let me down so I've had to nip out and buy it from a shop. 500Mb patch () and then I'm off to the Wasteland #morethanafeeling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    How fun will that stuff be when you're trawling back to defend your base every 10 minutes?
    Well im now 9 hours in and I've not had to, but thanks for your concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    Can I suggest people who aren't actually playing the game and not contributing to discussion would be better off not posting in the thread repeatedly? Ok, we get it - it's an imperfect game. It's becoming tedious now.
    Okay I'll be back tomorrow boss!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Yeah, that's what I said.

    People get awfully touchy when you dare mention that these games have issues, don't they?
    I just don't really get the point of going on about it. You've made it clear you don't like Bethesda games already. Those who do aren't really going to care that an NPC is badly animated.

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    Spent a good few hours in there now, only got up to roughly the first mission. Nice set-up so far, but only just scratching the surface. Got some decent kit already and I think the crafting stuff will take up a whole bunch of my time.

    So far it's been very reminiscent of FO3 - this mission I've just completed is very similar to the ranger/3-dog one from the last game. Overall it's been enjoyable thus far.

    It'll be cool when I'm let loose to go mooch about/survive.

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    I'm finally home, it's on.

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    Decided on:

    S - 3
    P - 4
    E - 3
    C - 3
    I - 2
    A - 5
    L - 8

    What an intro by the way.

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    After a small delay, here I go!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    I just don't really get the point of going on about it. You've made it clear you don't like Bethesda games already. Those who do aren't really going to care that an NPC is badly animated.
    I've bought the game now so I'm allowed to be negative

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    I'm only a couple of hours in (out of the vault and mooching around where I used to live), but the sheer scale of what you can do in this seems staggering.

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    Toggle Spoiler

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    Its taken 7 hours of in game distractions to walk to Diamond City, which is awesome by the way.

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    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    I just don't really get the point of going on about it. You've made it clear you don't like Bethesda games already. Those who do aren't really going to care that an NPC is badly animated.
    If I'm having to reload the game five times to escape from the same computer terminal, this game has a fucking problem. I've had Skyrim and New Vegas lock on me (Obsidian in charge but still on Bethesda tech) so there's always the fear of something major like a save corruption. They've been like this for twenty years. TWENTY.

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    Okay?

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    What I'm saying here is it's bricked my PS4.

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    Early disaster, I appear to have given my character scabby lips that weren't apparent in the face design bit but are very obvious once he starts talking. And a bomb went off or something.

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    Anyone playing as the lass? The ass on her in the video.

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    Feral ghouls can 100% definitely fuck off, and I just blundered into an encounter with a goddamn mutated Yao Guai

    Made some good progress with my starter town and cleared out a lot of the crap.

    It'd be good if they could have it so you could remove your helmet during conversations. I look like some kind of steampunk stormtrooper when I'm just having a quiet chat with a smackhead old lady.

    Power armour The skeleton of it (if you strip off the individual parts) looks mega.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    If I'm having to reload the game five times to escape from the same computer terminal, this game has a fucking problem. I've had Skyrim and New Vegas lock on me (Obsidian in charge but still on Bethesda tech) so there's always the fear of something major like a save corruption. They've been like this for twenty years. TWENTY.
    My brother's playing on PS4 and he's been fine.

    Are you even playing it yet? Were you abused by Bethesda as a child?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cord View Post
    Early disaster, I appear to have given my character scabby lips that weren't apparent in the face design bit but are very obvious once he starts talking. And a bomb went off or something.
    You can have plastic surgery in Diamond City.

    What I'm loving so far is the diversity of side quests. It's no longer just fetch, fetch, fetch. To give an example, in one quest I've just done I've had to have a bar fight, persuade someone to fall in love with another NPC and then chase down some greasers who have stolen Nico Bellic's identical twin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post

    It'd be good if they could have it so you could remove your helmet during conversations. I look like some kind of steampunk stormtrooper when I'm just having a quiet chat with a smackhead old lady.
    This.

    I've just realised I've been walking around town with a gas mask on for the past hour

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Ordered. £36.01.
    I'm a twit

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    @ Yevrah

    No, I just don't understand the obsession with 'content'. I finished Fallout 3 at 35 hours and thought, "Yeah, about right." New Vegas dragged on. Skyrim was 120 hours of "Fine, I'm done." I'm never replaying Skyrim. There's memorable moments buried amidst hours of tat.

    I'll get it once the GOTY package hits. Might even just go with a cheap vanilla version because the idea of a £25 season pass for a game with "300 hours of content!" sounds daunting. I may have spent 200-ish hours on Metal Gear Solid V but that rarely felt like a grind. Same goes with Dark Souls. New Vegas burnt me out on their blueprint. And, again, if I have to restart 100 hours in because of some knackered scripting, I'm spent. You'll be fine though. You're single, have enough time to rattle through 20 years of FM and play 200 hours of Fallout.

    No wonder she left you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    No, I just don't understand the obsession with 'content'.
    Great. We get that. About 8 times over now.

    If you don't like Bethesda games, or they irritate you to the point they appear to, I've genuinely no idea why you'd bother playing them, let alone bother coming into this thread every 5 minutes to piss and moan about them.

    You're droning on like a total twat.

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    If I didn't like them I wouldn't have bought the last three. In many ways the problem is how I play games but whatever.

    Also, I review this shit. I've got a right to be pissy because I play a fucking lot of them.


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    This thread isn't for negativity Shindig, it needs to be a big old love in.

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