Please don't say 'most of it' and then follow up with a line saying you enjoy where the overwhelming majority of the samples came from. I don't want this to be a place of arguing about Hip-Hop being all guns, money, hoes. Thanks.Originally Posted by Spoonsky
Most of it that I've heard. Not sure what you mean with the second part there.
Since you're new to Hip-Hop and this is a place to share knowledge I'll give you a list of things to google you'll probably find 'lyrically non-abrasive' (after a bit of listening, you'll realise how dumb this phrase is) and ignore the couple of shots you fired in the above post.
Def Jux
Rhymesayers
Strangefamous
Chance The Rapper
Childish Gambino
Z-Trip
Ugly Duckling
People Under The Stairs
Slum Village
Kanye West
Drake
Try some Guru and Madlib, Spoon.
Give the guy a chance to LIKE Hip-Hop before mentioning Madlib, jeez.
From what Spoon has said, Madlib is a sensible recommendation.
You edited your post, I was referring to: "and then follow up with a line saying you enjoy where the overwhelming majority of the samples came from." Which I still don't get.
He means loads of samples came from jazz.
The large majority of Hip-Hop music is 2-7 second Jazz or Funk samples.
Ah gotcha. Still, you know what I mean don't you? There is a certain jazziness on To Pimp A Butterfly. Maybe I'm just talking shit.
If you liked Tribe and want more like that Digable Planets and The Pharcyde spring to mind. De La Soul too. Maybe Gang Starr and Pete Rock & CL Smooth as well, they're a bit tougher (tougher sounding I mean, not challenging to listen to) but they retain the jazz element.
You're not talking shit, you just prescribed the bare minimum you've listened to as the majority is all. Hence my slightly frustrated tone
I could point you to a song about how J-Zone is a better rapper than any basketballer and a better basketballer than any rapper or an album where Prince Paul (produced De La Soul) and Dan The Automator (produced The Gorillaz debut album) created an entire record around the concept of them being the creators of a Male Modelling School For Male Models. Hip Hop is great because it can be whatever you want it to be.
I listened to They Reminisce Over You a ton last spring, love that song.
Do you like Thundercat, Spoon? He played bass on TPAB.
Kinda, I saw him opening at the Twilight fest here a couple years ago.
I really don't spend a lot of time seeking out new music these days, of any genre. It takes something like James cumming his pants over Joanna Newsom for me to really go out and buy a new album these days.
He wasn't happy on Twitta' about how it was labelled.
But yeah, it isn't very good which is annoying.
Buy... an album? Who does that these days?
Smellin' like cocoa, butter and Versace blue jeans
Ben Sherman top with blue jeans
Goin' in, living my movie
Bentekkers, I'ma steppers
It was art how I dodged that badness
In the corner smoking the maddest, BDL
ASBO Britain, the sound of the streets comin' through your aeriel
(Craig David), Big Narstie, all over your
Bentekkers
I'm a twit
Kanye's got a son now.
I'm a twit
But they're not calling him South.
I listened to about 100 albums (mostly hip hop) last year but due to life commitments I've only listened to a handful. My stand out joints have been:
Kendrick's TPAB
Guilty Simpson's Detroit's Son
Gangrene's You Disgust Me
Knxwledge's Hud Dreams
Apollo Brown's Grandeur
I'd have added Dilla's Dillatronic but they were mostly old bootlegs so not really a "new" albums per se.
Not Easton?
EDIT: @Spoonsky - To add to the previous conversation, I'd highly recommend the following artists/groups if you're into jazz-based hip hop (whether it be samples or jazz fusion type stuff) alongside the ones already mentioned:
Black Milk
Black Moon
Black Sheep
Black Star
Common (until about 2006)
DJ Premier
Dudley Perkins (and Georgia Anne Muldrow)
Flying Lotus
Gang Starr
J Dilla
Jneiro Jarel
Jungle Brothers
Karriem Riggins
Lootpack
Mos Def
Nujabes
Q-Tip
Quasimoto
Slum Village (1996-2002)
Souls of Mischief
The Pharcyde
The Roots (earlier stuff)
Yesterdays New Quintet
The ones in bold are both Madlib aliases if you weren't already aware. Indie wise, check out The Jazz Jousters, Beat Gates, Suhnraw, Bluesteady Triptik, Hooligan, Tall Black Guy, Vanilla and myself (shameless plug, link in my sig).
What do you lot think of Vince Staples?
I listened to his album after it was in Rolling Stone's best of the year list. I think it's pretty good but a bit samey, which is a shame as a track like Lemme Know shows he can be versatile. Lift Me Up is the obvious standout I reckon (the video is good, too).
I think it could be a grower when I've taken in the lyrics more.
I liked Hell Can Wait way more than the album.
Nate was a top 5 song that year as well for me.
Nekfeu - Feu
Akala - Knowledge is Power 2
Mayday - Future Vintage
Skyzoo - Music For My Friends
Freddie Gibbs - Shadow Of A Doubt
I've got to catch up on so many albums I just never got round to listening too Fashawn, Currensy (2 albums) Rick Ross, (Mixtape + Album), Big Pooh, Pete Rock, Vince Staples, Joell Ortiz, Talib, Jadakiss, still all remain unlistened and I'm sure I missed a few.
'Nate' is a single of the decade.
Wiki (of Ratking) has released a new album that you can download for free:
http://www.letterracer.com
There's always been something about this kid that I've liked. He always manages to get a sound that 's very authentically east coast, but manages to do it without it sounding like a cheap re-hash of previous New York golden eras.
Yeah big fan of Wiki, I'll be giving that a listen. I agree about his style. The fact he's rapping over such different beats to what you'd hear in early 90s stuff contributes as well.
Anderson.Paak killing it again
https://soundcloud.com/andersonpaak/...e-sonyae-elise
Was justjust about to post that.
Looks like they found a buyer for the super-secret, one copy only Wu-Tang Clan album. $2 Million, to some American pharmaceutical CEO who by all accounts is a morally reprehensible little shit.
http://www.theguardian.com/business/...martin-shkreliThat scepter is now in the hands of Martin Shkreli, the 32-year-old boss of Turing Pharmaceuticals, a man most famous for hiking the price of a drug used by cancer and Aids patients by 50-fold overnight, Bloomberg magazine reported on Wednesday. He paid $2m for the privilege.
Shkreli tweeted: “If there is a curious gap in your favorite artist’s discography, well, now you know why.”
Excellent work RZA. "Cash rules everything around me", indeed.
I bet all the talk about what a revolutionary, forward thinking business model that was stops straight away now. He's already on damage control saying that he'll give a "significant portion" of the proceeds to charity. We can console ourselves in the fact that it's undoubtedly a collection of sub-par leftovers and offcuts cobbled together to appear as though some sort of actual effort went into it.
Yeah but they have 88 years for any Wu-Tang affiliate and/or Bill Murray to steal it back so it's aight.
Worth two mil for Celine Dion.
I'm a twit
It's Cher not Celine Dion.
Push T's new album is out this day next week.
Is it definite or is it one of those rolling release dates that eventually comes?
Kanye tweeted an iTunes pre-order link that says 18th December, so it seems as definite as you get these days.
Everything surrounding that Wu Tang album sale is gold.
Bring the ruckus.‘Said heist or caper can only be undertaken by currently active members of the Wu-Tang Clan and/or actor Bill Murray, with no legal repercussions.’
This is cool.
Hyped for this Pusha T album.
Can't not like this. Rick Ross comes across as a massive twat and his shots at Drake are pretty pathetic. Still though, good tune.
Also just stumbled across that PRhyme album from last year because they've added four tracks to make a deluxe version or something. It's awesome anyway.
December 18, 2001
First impressions of King Push is that it's not a patch on My Name Is My Name. Some good tracks, but nothing that really stands out in the way Nosetalgia did, for example.
Intro to the video is annoying, but She Belongs To The Game by Troy Ave is definitely the catchiest hip-hop song of 2015.
I'm a twit
Comfortably the best thing I've ever watched.
This happened last week on his snapchat, he's a hero. "It's so real out here."
Genius have compiled the best 50 rap songs of 2015.
10. Jay Rock feat. Black Hippy - "Vice City"
9. Lupe Fiasco - "Mural"
8. Fetty Wap - "Trap Queen"
7. Future - "March Madness"
6. Travi$ Scott - "Antidote"
5. Drake - "Know Yourself"
4. Kendrick Lamar - "King Kunta"
3. Vince Staples - "Summertime"
2. Drake - "Hotline Bling"
1. Kendrick Lamar - "Alright"
Full list here: http://genius.com/Genius-50-best-rap...of-2015-lyrics
There's also a 20 best rap albums of 2015:
10. Earl Sweatshirt - I Don't Like Shit, I Don't Go Outside
9. Dr. Dre - Compton
8. Joey Bada$$ - B4.DA.$$
7. Travis Scott - Rodeo
6. Future - DS2
5. Drake - If You're Reading This it's Too Late
4. Vince Staples - Summertime '06
3. A$AP Rocky - At.Long.Last.A$AP
2. Lupe Fiasco - Tetsuo and Youth
1. Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly
http://genius.com/Genius-20-best-rap...of-2015-lyrics
In other news, I've convinced a mate of mine to come see Logic in Manchester with me in April. Tickets are only £14. She's never heard of him, but she seemed to enjoy BoB when we saw him.
I'm a twit
Hotline Bling isn't rap.
Joey Bada$$ and Future have been my staples this year.
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