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    Hull, mate. Not Rochdale.

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    Reet Flair.

    "Eeeeeeh."

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    Hull Corgan, obviously.

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    I did like Jack Gallagher announcing his intentions to interfere in a match and give Daivari a good thrashing. He's the first cruiserweight to offer any kind of character so far outside 'wears a jacket'

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    Ah, the Alex Wright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wullie View Post
    I did like Jack Gallagher announcing his intentions to interfere in a match and give Daivari a good thrashing. He's the first cruiserweight to offer any kind of character so far outside 'wears a jacket'
    I'm going to spoiler his brutal suicide dive.

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    Stop the damn match!

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    They made all those intro video packages for the CWC and now don't bother using them, I've never quite got that.

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    Roadblock was a bit pants (I read beforehand that Demolition are part of a lawsuit against WWE so New Day getting the record then immediately losing the belts really feels like a classic McMahon politics job) but Raw was absolutely diabolical this week. Smackdown was a bit better, and Miz's bit with Renee Young came as a bit of a surprise.

    Despite not being the most talented, Miz must be comfortably their best heel just now.

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    Owens and Jericho are great

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    Owens is not a great heel any more because he's too likeable and he's never allowed to look strong. He's not allowed to be a proper heel (barely anybody in WWE is.)

    Jericho maybe less so in that he's more overtly a dickhead. If they had any kind of depth for the main event I'd be advocating an Owens face turn and soon.

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    Naah, Owens is far better has a heel. It's just WWE to either make heels pussies or big giant steroid abusers who run through everyone until John Cena or Roman Reigns beat them and buried them.

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    I quite enjoyed Smackdown. Or the main event at least. That End of Days/Zig Zag spot was nicely done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Owens is not a great heel any more because he's too likeable and he's never allowed to look strong. He's not allowed to be a proper heel (barely anybody in WWE is.)

    Jericho maybe less so in that he's more overtly a dickhead. If they had any kind of depth for the main event I'd be advocating an Owens face turn and soon.
    At last count I think it was just The Miz who is actually a proper heel, probably the only one since JBL.

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    I find heel and face dynamics a bit weird. I know the old guard like Cornette and JR scoff at people saying heels and faces don't exist anymore, but like...to me, a heel/face divide sort of implies a bunch of unambiguously good guys you are meant to universally like, and the opposite for the bad guys, but they certainly don't have that, and I'm not sure they could or even should. I'm not sure if the solution should be giving up on it entirely or just "book better".

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    There isn't even that broad a mix of characters in WWE anymore though, that's the problem for me.

    They tend to fall into puerile gobby twat, brutish twat or a combination of the two.

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    JBL would blank and insult fans in his day to day life (it helps that he's a massive wanker anyway) but these days you don't sell as many lunchboxes as a proper heel. Essentially the game changed, the NWO and people like Austin / Rock etc ended any proper heel/face divide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    There isn't even that broad a mix of characters in WWE anymore though, that's the problem for me.

    They tend to fall into puerile gobby twat, brutish twat or a combination of the two.
    Indeed. I know it is a bit of a hackneyed critique of WWE, but their policy of hiring a billion failed sitcom writers really shines through in their characters as well. Rather than the wrestlers representing a wide range of believable blokes with relatable motivations, you've basically just got loads of two-dimensional sitcom characters.

    I think the Dreamworks part of this meme is quite applicable with a few tweaks I can't be arsed to make:


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    Reminds me of an episode of Family Guy (I think), a fishtank full of ideas?

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    The cool heel needs to go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    There isn't even that broad a mix of characters in WWE anymore though, that's the problem for me.

    They tend to fall into puerile gobby twat, brutish twat or a combination of the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiffy View Post
    Reminds me of an episode of Family Guy (I think), a fishtank full of ideas?
    That was South Park taking the piss out of Family Guy, with the sea lion writers.

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    World of Sport Wrestling this afternoon. I think I'm more excited for JR than the actual wrestling, mind.

    If there was any truth to WWE wanting to get Rousey in for something or other does her getting lolled out of the cage last night lessen their interest?

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    It didn't seem to do Lesnar much harm against Mir.

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    She has a better record than Brock so I don't see why not.

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    Because Baroque Lesnar was still a huge rasslin' draw, and had his illness excuse. She can't really roll in and start flattening everybody coming off two gubbings.

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    It doesn't because she's female so Stephanie McMahon automatically wants her involved so she can take credit for it. After all there is a REVOLUTION going on with such names as the US Women's Soccer team and that plucky up and comer Serena Williams.

    WWE is going to be a right state when she takes over.

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    World of Sports looks abit shite on ITV

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    I think it's good in a 'wrestling is actually for kids' way.

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    Also, Jim Ross has made twenty minutes of this more exciting than the last five years of Raw.

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    Ooh, a mystery participant in the Battle Royal[e]. This is basically WWE had the Monday Night Wars never happened, and if Jim Cornette had absolute booking power.

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    Seems alright. High-work rate, proper telly nonsense with pantomime backstage stuff. And they'll probably only do it for 6-8 weeks and can book accordingly.

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    IT'S THE BRITISH BULLDOG's son!

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    That was very daft. Proper editing, lads. Any spot that looks a little watershed gets cut to a shot of a kid's face.

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    That was like an episode of Gladiators.

    Grado though.

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    They really should have booed Davey Jr for being both late and Canadian.

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    I'm just starting this but for a minute I thought Alex Shane was actualky David Gest.

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    You think Grado's a riot and then you see this lad he's against.

    Fucking hell.

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    "Grado's engulfed!", squawks JR as Mastiff makes an obvious non-winning cover. You wouldn't catch Cole calling that.

    And he sounded utterly digusted when Mastiff won.

    Somebody do something to get JR back on WWE TV. If it means murdering Vince then fine.

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    JR could get a snuff video over. I wonder how much they're paying him.

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    Hah, that backstage bit's amazing and immensely British,.

    Grado: "HAW! Yew! Ah've been cheatet!"

    Mastiff and his mates: "WwwwaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYY!!!!!!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    JR could get a snuff video over. I wonder how much they're paying him.
    Heyman said JR is the best on the mic ever. On the basis that some twat like the Rock has to get 15 minute of promo over. JR has to get 3hrs of WWE's crap over.

    And he's 100% right. JR is the best. The absolute best.

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    Also it's just real nice to see someone calling the match instead of the story of the match.

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    Well, that;'s the thing, is it not? JR turns the former into the latter but not in a "OMG YOU MUST BE SO EXCITED RIGHT NOW!" way that Vinne Mac hollers down Maggle's ear.

    I love how much they're buying into the "this show wasn't booked in advance" WWE style though.

    Trevor GM: "Listen, right, here in World of Sport we're dead prestigious and that, yeah? So we're gonna have to have a Battle Roy-ALL to determine a numbah wun contedah for Dave "Dave" Mastiffff, roight? Roight.,"
    *entirety of the rest of the show is geared towards the Battle Royale."

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    How many you had tonight, Webly?

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    That Dave Mastiff is fascinating, he's the closest I've seen to a perfectly spherical human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    How many you had tonight, Webly?
    Not enough to think that Stone Cold Davey Boy British Bulldog Jr. Smith's knees to the gut are as exciting as JR wants me to think they are.

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    It was odd to watch, it was so obviously an ITV studio audience rather than a paying crowd that I kept expecting Vernon Kaye to be presenting it.

    Who else spotted Adam Parmesan in the audience?

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    Did Big Daddy win?

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    Lol, his career ended when he fell on someone.

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