The Ultimate WWE Thread

[Gray Fox]

+1 for Tony doing the right thing. They'll also be much better in an AEW ring that no doubt jobbing to Dom Mysterio inside a month or whatever.

With Rey being the only exception I can really think of, the Luchas dont really work with your standard WWE audience. Now you could say that's a booking problem, but it sounds like Trips is going to try and fix his casual racism problem first.

Also this immediately jumping ship to the other brand and doing a burial promo or something is childish and needs to stop. If more guys are getting paid everyone wins.

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Also AEW update that I know no-one cares about.

Wrestledream PPV is tomorrow and it's classic modern AEW. The card largely sucks, there's no point to any of it but 80% of it will be incredibly good.

Here's my preview:

ROH World Television Championship (Pre-Show): Atlantis Jr. (c) vs. Brian Cage
-No one cares, Brian Cage will do some Lucha shit that's impressive considering his size and then lose

AEW World Tag Team Championships: The Young Bucks (c) vs. Private Party
-No-one cares, Private Party's storyline reason for earning this match is that a few weeks ago Moxley pointed out when AEW started they were hyped to be the next big thing and failed so badly they couldn't get a match bigger than AEW Dark so he beat one of them with a hammer. They took offense to this so tried to beat Moxley up and once again got beaten up by a woman and Claudio.

2-out-of-3 Falls: Hologram vs. The Beast Mortos
-You should care if you like wrestling because this'll be a banger. If you watch this and think 'that was cool' book a holiday to Mexico and visit CMLL. You can see this 3 times a week and get front row seats for 8 quid and it'll be one of the best things you'll experience in your life.

MxM Collection vs. The Acclaimed
-I like MxM, I used to like The Acclaimed. Both of them are terrific indie show teams. I think Max Caster is going to swerve for MxM and it'll make both sides worse off.

ROH World Championship: Mark Briscoe (c) vs. Chris Jericho
-I'm just presuming that Jericho is TK's cocaine plug at this point. Abysmal.

Darby Allin vs. Brody King
-This'll be a great match. Would have made more sense a year ago when Brody was beating Darby up at random signings/appearances. No-one will remember it in a week.

TNT Championship: Jack Perry (c) vs. Katsuyori Shibata
- I hate CM Punk so I want Jack Perry not to fail but fuck me the entire thing sucks. Shibata yet another Japanese Wrestling Mark signing that does nothing.

"Hangman" Adam Page vs. Jay White
-Two guys that are between angles so lets have them feud for a bit so both can get tv time.

International Championship Three-Way: Will Ospreay (c) vs. Ricochet vs. Konosuke Takeshita
-Ricochet a classic recent AEW fumble, he and many other signings add no style/talent separation to the roster but take up space. I presume he's in here to take the pin for an Ospreay/Takeshita singles.

AEW Women's World Championship: Mariah May (c) vs. Willow Nightingale
-Another classic AEW fumble. Mariah May with a wonderfully told, long term booking story that culminates in her winning the belt and then absolutely nothing for her to do afterwards.

AEW World Championship: Bryan Danielson (c) vs. Jon Moxley
-This storyline where Moxley is on a rampage for I'm not sure why is so unintelligible that I'm genuinely worried that the swerve of this match is Shane McMahon coming out and doing some sort of AEW vs WWE invasion angle.

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With Rey being the only exception I can really think of, the Luchas dont really work with your standard WWE audience. Now you could say that's a booking problem, but it sounds like Trips is going to try and fix his casual racism problem first.

Rey's not even the exception. He had to spend 20 years as an opening act and have his much more successful best friend die tragically young to get pushed above that.

[Ben]

I’m not going back to quote you from the last page but 100% agree on Takeshita. He’s absolute money and AEW need to push him ASAP otherwise he’ll run out his deal and fuck off to WWE.

[Ben]

I’ll not watch any WrestleDream. Normally I’d like to see Ospreay and Takeshita but I have no interest in Ricochet and even less interest in triple threat matches.

Main event is a hard pass too. Moxley is actually one of the worst wrestlers going and I’m not sure how he’s getting away with this Nazi gimmick in 2024, but somehow he is one of the company’s biggest draws so he needs to be in the top spots.

This is where Swerve comes back as a huge babyface isn’t it?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

How good are the Motor City Machine Guns?

Only ever seen Shelley in one match (he teamed with Kushida to re-form the Time Splitters once in NXT) and that was a while ago now.

[Ben]

I’m ready to be surprised. They were good in TNA years ago but I feel they’re too small/generic and past their prime to be anything other than a veteran team to put over younger acts.

[wullie]

I always enjoyed them but then I've not seen them in years so they could well be a tribute act to themselves by now.

[Shindig]

Aye, I've not seen them much outside of Dixie-era TNA. They were outstanding.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Watched the McMahon documentary on Netflix today.

It's well presented and put together but there's nothing new and/or groundbreaking really.

It's also a shame that they weren't able to do as much on the allegations.

[Baz]

I wanna know what happened to the original Linda McMahon and why’d they cast someone who looks nothing like her to pretend?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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[Waffdon]

The ending of the show was certainly something.

[phonics]

Didn’t like the repeat of the same spot. Do like the storyline of AEW going forward to be a series of baby faces trying to take these psychopaths down and failing until the true next one up comes along. Who that is though I don’t see it on the roster.

Edit: what am I saying. It’s Takeshita after Allin, Cassidy, Page and some other chumps all fail.

Edit 2: it’s Takeshita with Omega as his manager after Omega tries and fails because he can’t go anymore. Gimme the book Tony. Give. Me. The. Book.

[Ben]

Tony channelling his inner Jim Crockett Promotions by having all the champions be heels. The chase over the next six months could be excellent if he wasn't such a goof.

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Heel Cody, what a cunt.

[phonics]

I can't find the clip anymore but some dogshit level Reigns member of the family tree shooted on some guy doing kayfabe Samoan.

It's disgusting.

[Ben]

Yeah I saw that. It was Afa Jr. who was Manu in WWE about 15 years ago.

[wullie]

Hard to imagine why a load of his relatives are in big arenas while he's smacking a child about in an empty warehouse.

[phonics]

As AEW is wont to do the possibility space theyve provided has put me in pure fantasy booker mode.

And after several days of thinking about it. The only thing stopping me from winning Booker of the Year is 1) Paying Kurt Angle enough to accept a manager role and 2) AEWs absurd PPV schedule.

They have PPVs in November and December then two foreign PPVs in Japan and Australia in January and February and then nothing till July. The two American ones are needed to build failure but they’re too close together and the foreign ones are in a time zone that means you shouldnt make them more than really good house shows.

Outside of that I’ve worked out the World Title, Tnt title, tag and trios titles. The only other issue is how to involve the women’s titles considering they, rightly, know Shafeer can’t actually wrestle and forcing her into a scenario that doesn’t involve ‘looking mean and have opposition sell for you in a brawl’ exposes the issue.

But as I say on the men’s side if Tony gave me the book till May I could make #CINEMA

[SvN]

Did that just go out?

[phonics]

I couldn’t give a fuck about Shelton Benjamin and then he turns up wrestling like peak Ahmed Johnson.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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No UFC event on so this is a bit strange.

[Ben]

Don’t complain. We might actually get to watch it live.

I reckon they saw the ratings from the Bad Blood PPV which also started earlier (because of UFC) and that the earlier times actually get more viewers. The arena is going to be a sellout anyway so no issues there.

[Shindig]

How this starts is so damn jarring. WCW and their stupid face paint, the "Well, let me tell ya something." promos and the concern about America's youth being upset by Hulk's betrayal. It all looks very old hat until Sting shuts up and starts stalking. I feel about Surfer Sting the way I feel about pre-Poppa Pump Scott Steiner: They might as well be different guys.

Scott Hall committing to the Razor Gimmick for a couple of weeks is my kind of dumb.

[Ben]

Nice to see them get the IC title back on Breakker quickly.

The Bron Breakker and Jacob Fatu tease.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That title run is near enough an all time low.

Only one successful defence against Xavier Woods.

[Gray Fox]

The wheels must spin.

[Ben]

That title run is near enough an all time low.

Only one successful defence against Xavier Woods.

It's fine, I think.

Not all title runs need to be long. They did the switch to get the huge pop, then switched it back because a) Breakker is the future and b) it looks like they're cycling Jey back into the Bloodline stuff.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's fine, I think.

Not all title runs need to be long. They did the switch to get the huge pop, then switched it back because a) Breakker is the future and b) it looks like they're cycling Jey back into the Bloodline stuff.

Doing B for WARGAMES which will surely be new Bloodline v old.

Just need Sami back on board to make it Ucey.

Although it will probably be Cody. They could do 5 v 5 and bring in another new Bloodline guy like Hikuleo.

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That Carlito clip. Jesus christ.

[Waffdon]

Nice to see them get the IC title back on Breakker quickly.

The Bron Breakker and Jacob Fatu tease.

HHH does have a fetish for ridiculously long title reins

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

btw did they tell Bron to ease up on the spears?

His spears used to look amazing but now he's doing the wank Roman-esque spear where he jumps far too early and then rolls after.

Started doing it a couple of weeks ago.

[Ben]

It wouldn't surprise me BUT I'm wondering if it's some Triple H nugget where he gets Breakker to do the Roman Spear as a little wink wink to future plans or just because he was against Jey Uso. I dunno.

Jey fucked up the sell last night too so we've still got a small sample size. Hopefully he busts out the three rope run spear next time to right the wrongs of the world.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It wouldn't surprise me BUT I'm wondering if it's some Triple H nugget where he gets Breakker to do the Roman Spear as a little wink wink to future plans or just because he was against Jey Uso. I dunno.

Jey fucked up the sell last night too so we've still got a small sample size. Hopefully he busts out the three rope run spear next time to right the wrongs of the world.

He did it against Woods the other week and he also did it against Solo.

Edit: Actually against Woods he just went too low.

[Ben]

Fingers crossed it's just Bloodline stuff then and he goes back to wrecking folk ASAP.

[Gray Fox]

I'm becom-, I'm becom-, I'm becoming, Judas in, Judas in my mind.

[Ben]

Oh boy.

In fact, the whole show looks like it was utter dog shit.

[Shindig]

I hope Motor City Machine Guns get over. It's already weird seeing them put on a match without 3-4 other X-Division regulars in there keeping the pace up.

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Baron Corbin, Indi Hartwell and Tegan (no more knees) Nox are leaving WWE.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

BLOOD MONEY on very soon.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

New Bloodline to get a fifth member tonight which leads us nicely towards WARGAMES?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jey coming out on his own after the other two?

Wow.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jimmy missed his mark.

Solo pinned Roman clean, he is the real Tribal Chief.

Edit: lol, didn't expect that finish.

[Gray Fox]

So bloodline drama is almost exactly where it was this time last year. Can Roman trust Sami etc.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So bloodline drama is almost exactly where it was this time last year. Can Roman trust Sami etc.

Heading into Wargames where he ends up proving he is loyal...

[Dark Soldier]

What the fuck they have an Arab only belt now?

[Waffdon]

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