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    Judy Bagwell's passed away.

    She's standing on a forklift truck with the angels now.

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    AEW Presents the Judy Bagwell Memorial Battle Royal.

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    Arguably Rick Steiner's finest tag team partner.

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    NXT sounds like a bit of a mess at the moment and from the reviews is properly getting the stench of main roster booking about it.

    And not just because Kushida is now in a tag team called Jacket Time.

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    Surely Best Friends joining CHAOS opens the door for Okada to appear on Dynamite next week?

    https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1458575064488624128

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    Punk / Kingston was amazing, built really simply on a promo or two and then a great little match between two guys who know exactly how to work a crowd. Best in ring character work I've seen in ages.

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    Yeah I'm not going to watch the whole show but I watched a handful of matches but that one was fun. And them just smacking the shit out of each other for ten minutes really fit the build.

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    So the matches I watched were:
    MJF vs. Allin - Match of the night for from the ones I watched. I love building the thing around a headlock takedown. Thought the ending was a little drawn out and the finish was unfortunately a bit WWE but otherwise it was a great match.
    Lucha Bros vs. FTR - Decent match. A bit spotty. Though some of those spots were a lot of fun so it's not the end of the world.
    Danielson vs. Miro - Really good, as you'd expect.
    Punk vs. Kingston - As discussed above.
    Page vs. Omega - Had the result spoiled for me which took any little reaction I might've had to the ending away but it was done well and capped off a good match. Isn't it nice to see a show ending with the crowd getting what they want?

    EDIT: There are some things that still annoy me with AEW though. The amount of biting and gouging that refs aren't made to do anything about. The selective selling (this is just a modern wrestling thing, I suppose.) And the commentary still largely adds nothing though I suppose it's at least not Maggle actively making the show worse.
    Last edited by Ian; 15-11-2021 at 08:45 AM.

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    What was that ending in the tag match about, with the masks?

    Also the end of the women's title match was very flat.
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    Sounds like Scott Steiner maths got a reference on NXT.

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    He's done the barking thing Rick Steiner did and they referenced dog faced gremlin too, surely they could just call him something Steiner and still retain the rights to the name?

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    Everything about his presentation screams Steiner other than the shit name they've given him.

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    Frank N. Steiner. It's an open goal.

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    So Dominic can't be on Team RAW because he's never won a World Title, but then the next week they replace Rey Mysterio with Austin Theory? Fuck off.

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    WWE have such a strong regard for other promotions and the indy scene I imagine it's a nod to Theory's Evolve Championship run.

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    Had a few Dark Side Of The Rings on today.

    Montreal Screwjob I already knew too much about but it was still alright.

    I really enjoyed the New Jack one. Honestly can’t help but like him.

    Nick Gage one was okay but ehh I don’t like him.

    I might watch the Brawl For All one, as I’ve somehow got zero recollection of it.
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    It's a pity they punished him by having him get brained by Butterbean because the Bart Gunn winning a shoot fight tournament decided specifically to get another dude over is one of the great WWE stories.

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    Yep. It's a shame they didn't just react to it. Put him in with Shamrock and Dan Severn. Bart's never going to be a talker so just strap some MMA knee-pads and gloves on him and roll with it.

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    Every time I think about the Brawl for All I'm amazed nobody was killed or more seriously injured, it's frankly astonishing that it was allowed on live tv.

    Reminds me of something I occasionally think when watching wrestling, isn't it a bit insane that on mainstream entertainment/tv shows performers are regularly cutting themselves open in order to make it seem more dramatic? I know it's normal in wrestling so we just accept it but imagine if they were doing that on Casualty or Ant & Dec, you'd be questioning the judgement of all involved.

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    Wasn't original UFC a total unsafe shambles as well?

    As for your second point it is mad but wrestling remains a carnie shitshow. And the official line I assume even outside WWE is that they're not gouging themselves to achieve it.

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    Original UFC was mental. The first 2/3 events especially. A 16 man tournament with all fights being on the same night, no rules and no weight classes.

    There was a guy who punched another fighter's dick about 5 times when he was trying to stop himself from getting choked.

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    Yeah I posted a video of UFC1 recently in the UFC thread because I decided to go back and watch some of it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    Every time I think about the Brawl for All I'm amazed nobody was killed or more seriously injured, it's frankly astonishing that it was allowed on live tv.

    Reminds me of something I occasionally think when watching wrestling, isn't it a bit insane that on mainstream entertainment/tv shows performers are regularly cutting themselves open in order to make it seem more dramatic? I know it's normal in wrestling so we just accept it but imagine if they were doing that on Casualty or Ant & Dec, you'd be questioning the judgement of all involved.
    Brawl for All was actually quite safe, the gloves were 3x the size they use in UFC and it was only 3 1 minute rounds.

    On the second part, they're cutting specific parts of their body that are absolutely no threat to them. Look at Blading and then look at Alec Baldwin murdering 2 people. Is safer than the fake shit.

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    They had real fights with no proper refs and people who were knocked out frequently came back out for other angles and to get hit in the head with chairs.

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    Dr. Death broke his leg, didn't he?

    As for blading, I'm not sure it's necessary. Not now when kayfabe is dead.

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    It makes sense in the context of wrestling it's just weird in comparison.

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    But their precious foreheads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Dr. Death broke his leg, didn't he?

    As for blading, I'm not sure it's necessary. Not now when kayfabe is dead.
    Injured his hamstring then got knocked out.

    He was paid as the winner of the whole tournament before the fight though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    But their precious foreheads.
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    Mooooore releases.

    All of Hit Row, Morrison, Nox, Maverick, Thorne and Ryker.

    In a proper company Morrison, who can clearly still go, wouldn't have been farting about in bad comedy skits with Miz and would at least have been in a proper tag team but ideally been somewhere between the midcard belts and just under the main event bit. He'd have been a fine heel foil for a good match for Big E on one of your c-list PPVs, for example.

    And Swerve is just a waste altogether. Loads of talent.

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    Hit Row were so fucking good. I can't believe they've been fucked so quickly.

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    I didn't think for a minute that Vince and Bruce would have a fucking clue what to do with that group on main roster (even relative to how they book others) so on a purely creative front it's probably a blessing in disguise but obviously it sucks that a promising group with a talented lead have been sacked probably because Vince saw it and didn't understand what the fuck was going on.

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    Vince's 'we don't do wrestling' rings truer every day, I really don't get who is supposed to be watching them anymore.

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    It is pretty impressive that despite the show being irredeemably shite for over a decade, they keep finding new and improved ways to make it worse.

    Putting Bruce Prichard in charge was always going to be a disaster. The guy still thinks the custody of Dominic storyline was one of the all time greats and kisses Vince arse so hard it's a wonder they aren't conjoined at this point.

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    Bruce thought The Human Centipede was career advice.

    Who is Dominic's current dad on linear custody rules? Is it Roman?

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    Couldn't get the twitter embed thing to work but this is quality:

    https://twitter.com/WWEMaverick/stat...20342539816961

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    Here you go:


    I'm glad you pointed it out because I didn't watch it assuming it was just gonna be the same as the last one but yeah, I like that.

    He's a talented guy, he'll do alright for himself.

    The Dain / Maverick stuff was really fun, it's just a shame that once they had Dain come round to the friendship they never took it anywhere else.

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    This Red Notice crossover (WHO STOLE VINCE'S GOLDEN EGG???) a) being the through-line of Survivor Series and b) sounding like it'll be the only thing that carries over into Raw is amazing.

    What a company.

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    His what?

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    So. The Macguffin in Red Notice is a faberge-esque golden egg which they made up for the film and pretended belonged to Cleopatra.

    Similar to when the Miz got eaten by zombies (and no-sold it) Survivor Series last night was tied in with Red Notice promotion. Including mixing the show's opening video package with bits of the Red Notice trailer, having a battle royal to honour the Rock? Or something? Bang on about how he debuted at Survivor Series 25 years ago. Everything but actually have him on the show, of course.

    Anyway, Vince turned up (a week after firing more people, they had him be applauded as he arrived by current talent apparently) with a golden egg. But not the prop, he appears to have explained, they just used that in the movie. He has the REAL $100m golden egg. He even has a segment where he tells Roman about it.

    But then (*gasp*) somebody STOLE THE EGG so he told Pearce and Deville (THEY'RE DEFINITELY NOT AUTHORITY FIGURES SHUT UP YOU CAN'T PROVE IT) to get all the Raw and Smackdown talent together on Raw tonight so they can get to the bottom of who stole the egg.

    I feel 5% stupider just for having written that out.

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    Large bet on R-Truth.

    It's going to end up being somewhat stereotypically racist anyway.

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    Thank you for your service Ian, I enjoyed that.

    Surely smart money is on them never mentioning it again.

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    Depends whether they agreed with Netflix that this'll cover multiple shows I guess.

    Their own storylines sure bury those it's only somebody's push / livelihood you're mucking around with but if they've been PAID to keep it going...

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    Will this golden egg hatch? It should. They could give us the Goldbergdygooker.

    Fuck. That's painful to write. And to say. Don't make this happen, Vince.

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    Otis (or some else who is fat/black) will have eaten it. Fair play though, I sort of want to watch Raw now.

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    One of the Wrestletalk lads said similar. "This is the most interested I've been ahead of Raw all year."

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    Gore!

    (He actually just sort of runs into him but whatever.)

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    IMPORTANT EGG NEWS:
    Austin Theory done stole it.

    So he could take a selfie with it in his hotel room.

    Vince was so impressed with the balls this took he gave him a world title shot.

    Exemplary stuff as always.

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    Does the WWE network still laugh at Robocop turning up on WCW?

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    I think that may be the least interesting way they could have paid this off, still it saves me watching Raw I suppose.

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