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    I really liked Reigns vs. Murphy last night. Smackdown on the whole was a pretty decent show, actually. Even if more Kofi / Keith and KO / Shane is not what anybody wants in life.

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    The new variant of How WWE Should Have Booked / Should Book on Whatculture is not as good as the Adam Blampied ones were.

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    God I miss those.

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    Simon Miller is just a bit annoying and kept sounding apologetic for it just being fantasy booking.

    That's literally why I'm watching it you muscly freak, just get on with it.

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    Word is that Vince made a 'handshake deal' with Ziggler saying that he'll release him so he can do other shit (crap comedy) after Summerslam.

    Apparently Vince told him that he'd rather keep paying him to sit at home instead.

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    Is it the CM Punk one? @Ian

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    Yeah, that's the one. It's not terrible but Blampied had pretty much nailed it and I always think Simon Miller is a bit full-on.

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    I put it on but it was only 10 minutes and I swear after about 6 minutes he hadn't actually done any fantasy booking, or if he did, I missed it amongst all the waffle. Seemed to be a far cry from the stuff Blampied did. Such a shame. Hopefully they do more and get better at them.

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    He spends far too much time either apologising for "LISTEN GUYS THIS IS JUST FANTASY BOOKING!!" and umming and ahhing over the reality of the thing. When will Blampied be deemed to have done his time?

    That said... look at his profile pic. https://twitter.com/adamtheblampied

    Why he's done that to himself I don't know.

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    He got caught doing something along the lines of demanding nudes off women, because he was a "big star."

    It was right around the Cultaholic split from WhatCulture. The Cultoholic guys dumped him right off and haven't mentioned him once since I believe.

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    They have mentioned him quite a lot, especially recently when WCPW died. He should come back but supposedly he doesn’t want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    He got caught doing something along the lines of demanding nudes off women, because he was a "big star."

    It was right around the Cultaholic split from WhatCulture. The Cultoholic guys dumped him right off and haven't mentioned him once since I believe.
    I meant the hair.

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    He went all creep and shaved it off right after being caught so that's probably a slight improvement.

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    I find Hot Ones entirely dependent on the guest but you can't go wrong with a bit of Stone Cold.
    Last edited by Ian; 15-08-2019 at 07:30 PM.

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    The host really bugs me.

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    I don't mind him but he does seem like the sort of presenter who would normally really get on my nerves so I'm not sure why he doesn't.

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    Word is that Chad Gable will soon be called Shorty G

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    I was hoping for "The Shorty G Experience."

    Still, nice to know they're not going to ever treat a supremely talented wrestler seriously ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    Word is that Chad Gable will soon be called Shorty G
    Fuck. This. Company.

    I was going to do a 'how good would a WWE G1 style tournament be' post but looking through the roster at all the really good wrestlers being wasted was really quite depressing.

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    It would be shite. Everyone would win 1 week and then lose the next week, unless they were the main event of the show, in which case it would be a draw.

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    The beauty of an imaginary tournament is that you can also imagine it being good.

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    I was talking about this yesterday when discussing both King of the Ring and potential opponents for Rollins. Obviously Uncle Dave has said it'll be Boatman, which would be fine if they hadn't killed his last push about, what, 6 months ago?

    It's all well and good giving Rollins a squeaky clean win over Lesnar to make him look great but now there's nobody to challenge. You don't want him doing a proper feud with AJ as neither of them needs a loss at this point but nor does Boatman because that'll be three (?) title matches and three defeats. I'd be going in hard on trying to rehab McIntyre's aura a bit and then set him up to kick Rollins' face off for the belt at some point. When that would be I dunno. It wouldn't surprise me if they're planning to have Rollins run the table until Mania but how the fuck you occupy him until then I don't know.

    Fuck it, I'm working from home and have nothing to do. Let's do the Raw (singles) roster according to Wikipedia.

    AJ Styles - Is doing fine. Will presumably be in the Universal picture at some point and that's no bad thing, especially if he brings Gallows and Anderson along with him rather than them breaking up needlessly.
    Baron Corbin - Poor Jezza. A perfectly fine midcard heel but the heat he gets veers towards go-away heat. I don't think anybody (other than Cord) would give a shit if he fucked off. I liked the Constable Corbin thing until he became 75% of Raw.
    Bobby Lashley - Should probably be being booked as a sub-Bork level monster but is just a guy. What did TNA do with him? He got decent reviews there, right?
    Braun Strowman - Discussed above. Could really do without losing another World title match right now.
    Bray Wyatt - WWE are going to run out of patience with this Funhouse / Fiend thing but I liked what they did in the Balor match to make him look a brute. I do wish the announcers would be steered down more of a 'what has happened to Bray Wyatt to make him do this?" route than an OMG ACTUAL PARANORMAL STUFF IS GOING ON!! one. The Fiend really needs to not lose for a very long time if they want this to be taken seriously. Well, as seriously as a man in a crap horror mask can be.
    Brock Lesnar - Him actually nearly trying against Rollins and it making for a better match than his usual fare somehow just annoyed me more. Fuck off.
    Cedric Alexander - Was made to look great against McIntyre. He's never going to main event but I don't see any reason you couldn't have him on one of the midcard titles. He has good matches and I think the fans would get behind him given a proper chance.
    Cesaro - Poor bastard. Should be getting consistent pushes and if not at least be a part-time main eventer but never will. King of the Ring should be tailor-made for his no-nonsense approach but he'll probably not make it past the second round.
    Curt Hawkins - Finally! Somebody on the list who is probably at about the right level.
    Drew McIntyre - Was great at first but subbing lackeying for Dolph for lackeying for Shane is not a good look. His monstering of Angle on Raw last year is what he should be doing a lot more of. Have him spend between now and whenever you want to put the title on him fucking hurting people and not giving a shit about it and making him look a scary heel again.
    EC3 - File this one under "NXT call-ups with no plan."
    Eric Young - Should probably be back in NXT
    Heath Slater - Surprised he hasn't been in about the 24/7 stuff more.
    Lio Rush - Is he still there??
    The Miz - Sooooo let's see. Take probably your best heel. Check. Have him turn babyface because he just loves Shane McMahon so much and it's the only way his shit dad will ever love him, to make him look like a total fucking gimp. Check. Have Shane turn heel right back at him. Check. Have Miz briefly be booked totally out of character to look like a one man wrecking crew so it looks better when Shane COMPREHENSIVELY WINS THE FEUD. Fucking check. Christ. And now he's what, feeding Dolph to Goldberg and hosting Miz TV? Great.
    Mojo Rawley - I don't want more Mojo on TV but what precisely was the fucking point in having him talk to a mirror for a month, turn up on TV with some face paint on then never be seen again? Clearly somebody likes him, but not anybody with enough sway to actually do with him whatever it is they think he can do.
    No Way Jose - Isn't even prominent enough to be a proper novelty act that the fans can get into for a laugh so what's the point?
    Rey Mysterio - Genuinely interested to see what they're doing with him after the 2-0 loss to Andrade. As it stands you couldn't really put him in a one-off World title match (by winning a Battle Royal or whatever) even though he has the rep that you could get away with it.
    Ricochet - I wouldn't have taken the US title off him quite so quickly but other than them just forcing him to do the house style I think he's largely been used quite well and can see them treating him about as well as they treat anybody.
    Robert Roode - WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PORN 'TACHE? Fuck's sake.
    Sami Zayn - Oh poor Sami. Absolutely no reason he couldn't be near the top of the card. They had a decent match on Raw I think and I'd love to see a proper Zayn / Rollins feud. Zayn keeps bitching about WWE, have him call out Rollins for being a blinkered company man or whatever. It'd work. They'd have a great match. Sadly Sami has been jobbing so hard for such a long time now it'd be hard to build him up to that level now even if they wanted to.
    Samoa Joe - Another one in the category of needing to win the big one at some point. And while I think he'd make a fine heel World champion it doesn't even need to be at that level, just have him terrorise the midcard and nobody be able to get the IC title off him for a year or something. He's amazing on the mic, he knows his character, fans react to him and he has good matches.
    Seth Rollins - A Bork specialist now. On the one hand you'd think this should be as good a chance as he's going to get at an iconic title reign. Unfortunately, as discussed, the opposition (whoever that may be going forward) have largely been booked very badly and he's just not charismatic enough to make that happen on his own as a babyface.
    Titus O'Neil - I mean really he's done well not to be forced into making 'falling over' his gimmick so let's say he's winning.
    Zack Ryder - Will never be forgiven for committing the most heinous of crimes..... getting himself over.

    Well. That was depressing.

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    That's where 50/50 booking gets you... a while bunch of cunts no one cares about because no one looks good in any feud.

    The Fiend will probably lose his 3rd match, most likely to Triple H or something.

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    Bobby Lashley, for example, even though I don't know if he's got that high a ceiling, shouldn't be on TV that much. Or shouldn't be wrestling that much anyway, and when he does he shouldn't lose very often.

    And yeah, they'll ruin whatever they have with the Fiend pretty quickly.

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    Bobby Lashley can be redeemed if he wears his headband because he believes he still has hair.

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    @Ian

    Jezza would actually be a decent heel if they weren't trying to force him on us. LOOK AT HIM, HE'S A PROPER BASTARD HE'S EVERYWHERE is just grating. I did like the constant X's Favourite Son schtick.

    Cedric - I'm a bit surprised by how much of a push they've given him. He's insanely talented but has a seriously wooden personality.

    Eric Young - I think he was doing some backstage work last I heard.

    Lio Rush - Is moving to NXT (might already have done some taping) as they were showing some promos. For a while he was excommunicado though because he was a dick backstage apparently.

    Samoa Joe - I think he's lost pretty much every PPV match (Rey at WM35 for the US and one other US defence IIRC) they've had him in.

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    Jeremy might have the best combination of signature move and finisher. Even if his dance around the maypole is now so overdone that, like the LUNATIC LARIAT, there's no way that anybody with more than 3 functioning brain cells should ever be hit by it.

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    Seems that WWE are going to try and go toe to toe with AEW's weekly show.

    Big rumblings that they will be moving NXT to the USA Network which will be confirmed on RAW this week.

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    Yeah there's been talk of that for a while. Problem is that as it stands NXT on TV isn't always a thrilling hour of TV. The quality of wrestling is high but there's not always much of it.

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    They have loads of wrestlers they aren't using so you'd think it would be simple enough to fill out the roster a bit.

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    You'd hope so. The likes of Lee are massively underused.

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    I also heard rumours that they might 'loan' RAW and Smackdown guys to NXT (WILDCARD!!!!) to try and boost ratings. Really kicked into overdrive when AJ Styles said something about knowing where NXT was to HBK.

    I think that's the last thing they should be doing though and would rather they bumped it up to 90 minutes and just put on another couple of matches.

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    Is HBK known to be hanging out there then?

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    He's a crap Dario Gradi really, he thinks that just because they're in development that they're young. Probably too many concussions.

    I think he's Triple H's assistant or something. I know he helps out at the performance centre, gives him ideas etc. I don't know how much control he has but they do paint him as just below Triple H at times.

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    He runs the finishing class.

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    Apparently Vince will be getting more hands-on with NXT now it's getting a TV deal.

    Oh well. It was good while it lasted.

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    I wonder how much cucking of NXT Haitch could tolerate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Apparently Vince will be getting more hands-on with NXT now it's getting a TV deal.

    Oh well. It was good while it lasted.
    Yup, the TV deal will kill it for the current fanbase. Unless they put some other developmental thing on the network in its place (that Vince won't piss about with).

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    Still, it's nice for Dream that his push is get accelerated straight to the "Who the hell is this queer, pal?" stage.

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    I'm afraid that is inevitable, his only hope lies with him being good enough (which he could well be) to make it work despite the awful gimmick he will likely be saddled with.

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    I always thought his best chance was Vince dying before he got called up but I'm pretty sure he's immortal anyway.

    I mean he is fucking excellent. If anything I think he initially had a higher level of promo / gimmick type stuff initially but his ring game is excellent too. His match record for match quality at Takeovers must be pretty much spotless.

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    The intros too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Still, it's nice for Dream that his push is get accelerated straight to the "Who the hell is this queer, pal?" stage.
    Velvet Dust.

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    Now you mention him I'm surprised Dream hasn't done a Goldust homage. Maybe just because Dustin is a TRAITOR now.

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    Word is that NXT is going to increase to 2 hours and start on the USA Network on September 18th.

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    I saw the Joe and Cesaro got ten minutes in their KOTR match and thought "Oh, so everybody's actually getting a bit of a chance to shine" then saw that Zayn lost in under 4 minutes.

    Also: This Rey stuff has been building up to him tagging with sodding Dominic? Great.

    Also also: Taking the tag belts off Gallows and Anderson this soon? I assume that they'll get them back next week or the week after due to a 'miscommunication' and that's what leads to this title match we're supposedly getting.

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    An Ian Smackdown Superstar WDYTOE list would be

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    So no announcement on RAW but they have confirmed that NXT is going to USA Network for a weekly two hour live show.

    Please just leave it alone Vince, they don't need your input and they don't need the main roster guys turning up.

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    Not a chance.

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    Can they organise a whip round at Full Sail? Might be able to gather up enough to hire a hitman.

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