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    I think he only wrestled Bryan Danielson back in the old ROH days. CM Punk had left by then I think from my dodgy memory.

    Saw a comment on Reddit that makes sense and that is for Danielson to go over Jay White then go on a tour in Japan facing both Juniors and Heavyweights defending the NEVER Open weight belt. So many quality matches to tick off.



    Hiromu, Ishii, ZSJ, Naito, Cobb, Ibushi, KENTA, Desporado off the top of my head.

    Apparently he has already wrestled Shingo in Dragons Gate.
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    A worrying thing that Daniel Bryan Danielson said was that he loved WWE but they were a bit too protective of him and wouldn't let him do what he wanted to do. Wheelchair by 50

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    CTE suicide more like it.

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    I like Matt Riddles new gimmick of trying to make Randy Orton laugh at every opportunity, he really is the best.

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    I still love the bit on Raw ages ago now when MVP says "First of all I'm not your bro" and Riddle totally catches him out with a quiet "Awww" and MVP has to take a second to make sure he doesn't laugh.

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    What is the point of booking Suzuki if we cant mark out singing 'kaze ni nare'?

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    So I've watched most of All Out now. I enjoyed it for the most part.

    Miro / Kingston - Good fun. Miro is great and you love to see a lad with a gut like Kingston getting by on being a reet hard bastard.
    Moxley / Kojima - Not bad but maybe suffered a bit for seeming to have come together at quite short notice?
    Baker / Statlander - Good match. How far does this "Kris Statlander is an alien" gimmick actually extend into her promos and whatnot?
    Lucha Bros / Young Bucks - Fun, a bit OTT toward the end but the Bucks really are naturals as the detestable heels you want to see get their heads kicked in.
    Battle Royale - Didn't watch it but it's nice to see Ruby get a big pop on debut.
    Jericho / MJF - Really liked this. And the foot on the rope false finish was one of the best I've seen of that sort of spot. Having had the Wardlow/Hager fight be there to bring out the other refs so they could point out the match ref's error was a good logical way to do it rather than whatever WWE would have cooked up (like the "host" of the show coming out and going nah mate, or a GM deciding this is the one time he's going to care about officials missing stuff.) I dunno if it seems weird to me or not having this big climactic thing end with the older guy getting the win, though MJF's previous wins over Jericho and how good he is maybe mean he doesn't really suffer for not getting the job done here. I liked it a lot either way.
    Punk / Allin - The most meh of the matches I watched. Orton-esque levels of rest holds to protect Chick Magnet Phil. And that ring gear doesn't suit him.

    Didn't watch the Big Show match and didn't feel like I needed 20 minutes of Christian in my life so I just skipped to the debuts.

    Other thoughts:
    - AEW live crowds are way better than WWE for keeping a general hubbub of noise going when they're not actively booing or cheering but they've still got some of the same bad habits. "You've still got it!" for Punk successfully applying a chinlock, "This is awesome!" when nothing desperately exciting is going on, the "Let's go [wrestler]" call and response thing in I think the Moxley match? Stop it.

    - Is biting not against the rules in AEW? At least three matches had blatant biting right in front of the refs who basically let it go.

    - Not a new observation but JR could barely sound less invested. It comes across like he's reading off a script. The JR of old would have been sounding genuinely disgusted about MJF's antics, for example.

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    Did HHH have a heart attack?

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    "Cardiac event" sounds the most WWE way ever to talk about a heart attack, so almost definitely.

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    Did he read the first new NXT script?

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    Vince outliving him would be amazing.

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    I've just read there that had Adam Cole stayed in WWE their main roster plans were for him to basically be largely a manager to a heel Keith Lee () and that he might have to change his name because of Maggle. Lol. They can't possibly have thought he'd be up for that.

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    It's a good thing AEW aren't as bothered about the name thing what with adding a third Brian and all the Cages and Pages they've got. Not to mention all the people named Gunn, what are the chances?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    I've just read there that had Adam Cole stayed in WWE their main roster plans were for him to basically be largely a manager to a heel Keith Lee () and that he might have to change his name because of Maggle. Lol. They can't possibly have thought he'd be up for that.
    It's just so fucking stupid.

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    Good to see TK leaning into the Suzuki disrespect angle for next weeks Dynamite. Hopefully we get to see Suzuki beating down on innocent jobbers backstage.

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    Putting Taz[z] on commentary is probably the best thing AEW have done. He’s fantastic.
    I'm a twit

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    Taz has been a commentator for nearly 20 years to be fair.

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    Yeah he was always okay on Smackdown way back when but it’s just refreshing to hear him play the heel role while also being a really good commentator. Jericho is pretty good too, although the actual sound of his voice grates on me after a while.

    I’m just glad they moved him from Brian Cage’s manager -> Team Taz hypeman -> commentator who doesn’t give a f
    I'm a twit

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    Excalibur / Taz / Schiavone could be the best desk AEW can put together.

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    AEW need to get Bork so we can all get a bit of "Welp. Here comes the pain!" back in our lives.

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    Pass on Excalibur.
    I'm a twit

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    Balls.

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    Boooo.

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    Big E says he's gonna cash in on Bobbles tonight.

    I wonder if he's just going to fail to cash in or if it'll be worse than that.

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    He also said he would cash in for his last name. Maybe he doesn’t cash in for the title but for rights to having a last name. Langston v Lashley.

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    Well, shows what I know I guess. Given he's both a Babyface and a big beast of a fella I'd have rathered they didn't have him do the post-match cash in and I feel like Lashley deserved a better end to his reign but it is what it is I guess.

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    Pete Dunne has signed a new 3 year contract

    Now give him the NXT title.

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    I mean, I'm delighted but what a moron.

    Unless he just likes the (relative) stability of having something resembling a steady job in wrestling and/or thinks AEW is approaching 'piss off we're full' territory with their roster.

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    I didn't have an issue with Bronson Reichsteiner being Rex Steiner, that's fair enough. But "Bron Breakker"? Just file him away under 'never main eventing a PPV' now.

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    They were so committed to going back to the old NXT they Michael McGillicutty'd him. Shame as he looks like he's got potential

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    I haven't watched any of it yet but it sounds like of the new faces he's the one they like the most from that episode. But that name is never doing anything.

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    These are normally copyright/merchandising related are they not? Still, Rex Steiner is still an objectively better name especially given Rick Steiner is his dad, you'd think they would want to play that up.

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    I wouldn't mind but they're clearly alluding to it with the gear, etc. If they didn't wanna go Bronson because of Reed then fine but as you say, Rex Steiner would have been totally fine.

    In other news I watched Wrestling With Wregret's latest list and didn't know that Lawler once tried to discredit a woman who was calling him a dirty old sex pest by saying she'd once had a relationship with a black fella.

    Of course if this was in the South the court probably said "Hm, fair point."

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    And I've finished watching NXT 2.0. I hope they drop the 2.0 soon btw.

    Firstly I kind of like the new set, it doesn't fit NXT but I don't mind it. I also like the fan seating and I'm so glad they got rid of the plexiglass and chain.

    Onto the actual show, I like it a lot more than I thought it would but there was still a lot wrong with it.

    The matches bar the main event (which should have happened after the wedding) were far too short but I get that they were trying to introduce a lot more new talent and hopefully they settle down. Speaking of new talent, Bron Breakker really is a shit name.

    I also found it strange that they make LA Knight lose to start the show, why? I'm not sure why they also went with Ciampa as the winner, if you're trying to reinvent why put the title on one of the oldest, most experienced guys? Yes he had a terrific run as a champion (although it was great because he was a brilliant heel) but I feel he hasn't been the same since coming back.

    Creed Brothers look fun though as does Bron Breakker (despite the name) and Von Wagner.

    I really hope Bron isn't the first challenger for the title, I don't like that at all.

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    I assume they put it on an established old NXT bod so they could have one of their new lads smash him to bits further down the line.

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    Yeah Ciampa is clearly just there to play the role Joe was going to. Well'ard veteran to snarl at the newbies until one of them (Breakker, presumably) comes and takes it off him.

    I will watch the episode out of curiosity but expectations are low.

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    It’s also at least 3.0. 4.0 if you count WWECW which was more NXT than ECW.

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    I think accurate version management is the least of NXT's problems.

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    Also, them revealing that Dexter Lumis' middle name is "Gaylord" is weak as fuck.

    Are the writers 10 years old?

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    Seems like their normal level to me.

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    It's normal main roster level, and of course it's them running NXT now so yeah.

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    Gaylords a pretty common Mormon name in the US. don’t think it’s a joke

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    Christ, I've just started having a look at NXT and Breakker could not sound more like a Steiner.

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    Ric Flair helicoptering at air stewardesses apparently.

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    Is that the new Dark Side episode?

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    I like all the talk of this episode putting a hold on Ric Flair working with AEW. Surely we can't possibly use this guy now these revelations that everyone already knew about for decades have come to light.

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    Yeah, I don't think anybody's been spending the last few decades thinking he's NOT a skeezy sex-pest.

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    I was looking at Google maps and fell into my usual trap of getting absorbed in stupid tiny English place names and I reckon there's a decent "Stupid WWE name or English village?" quiz to be made.

    Thorpe Tilney
    Brant Broughton
    Kirk Langley
    Potter Somersal

    Brant Broughton and Kirk Langley are definitely a low-end tag team they've hired to fill the Ever-Rise spot on their roster.

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