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    Wrestlers being offered less money to come back to WWE is pretty funny.

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    I just hope enough of them are in a position to tell them to shove it.

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    Impact are apparently in the mix for a few of them. It would make perfect sense for EC3 to go back.

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    Just seen the Kushida/Atlas/Maverick triple threat and whilst the match was good the ending was absolute horseshit.

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    I'm two episodes into The Last Ride. It's sad and just adds to the reasons I never want him to wrestle again.

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    I only saw the start of episode 1 and while it looked like it was going to be great I just think it’s a terrible idea. Taker is the only fucker who even pretended to believe in kayfabe for the last 20 years so I’m just not a fan of all this humanising him.

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    You're in the minority with that one, I reckon.

    I felt bad for him after Wrestlemania 34. He trained for months, got in superb shape and then got 4 minutes in the ring. I reckon any chance of him having a final great match ended there.

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    He's clearly desperate for that one last moment and his other half clearly wishes he'd just give him and let himself relax.

    Also I know Taker was broadly one of the last bastions of PROTECTING THE BUSINESS but didn't he do a 4th wall breaking "shoot" before about 20 years before WWE decided they were trendy?

    If him opening up and revealing more about himself means he's closer to packing it in then I'm all for it. It's also giving me a bit more regard for him as a human rather than just locker room leader / wrestler's court dickhead who was a bit overrated in the first place.

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    For it to hold any weight, this has to be it for him. No more matches, done and dusted.

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    To be honest my gut thing has always been that he should go out putting somebody young over but I don't even know what younger person they care enough about that it wouldn't seem a bit random.

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    I was thinking about this earlier and I think ending the streak to Brock was the better option. It somewhat protects the streak in the aftermath as it took a beast like Lesnar to do it. Give it to a younger guy and you've still got to mould that talent to make sure it wasn't for nothing.

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    Unfortunately what it set up for Brock was all the worst shit they indulge him with. I'd have either ended the Streak on his definite, 100% last match or had him keep it but retire at whichever PPV it was he debuted on. Survivor Series?

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    I reckon he was meant to have a final match this year at Survivor Series, which would've been 30 years since his debut. But there's no way that happens without a crowd.

    His best chance of a good final match now is a rematch with AJ at Wrestlemania.

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    In a perfect world ‘Taker would go out in a casket match and never been seen on screen again. That won’t happen but it should.

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    I've always wanted Kane - Undertaker at Mania as the last match for both of them. Make that a casket match or hell in a cell and call it a day.

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    Can Kurt Angle be dressed up as death and be the special guest referee?

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    Sting to point at them with his baseball bat and then leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvN View Post
    I reckon he was meant to have a final match this year at Survivor Series, which would've been 30 years since his debut. But there's no way that happens without a crowd.

    His best chance of a good final match now is a rematch with AJ at Wrestlemania.
    AJ wouldn't be bad, he'd probably drag him to a decent match to go along with a hot crowd.

    He's going to be doing fucking boner yard matches for ever though.

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    I like Swerve but I always felt something was lacking in his matches on NXT, I really liked the match with Tony Nese this week though and would love to see a triple threat with Jack Gallagher involved.

    Seemed like he really stepped it up a notch and had great chemistry with Nese.

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    I'm having a hard time picking the results for tomorrow because each match feels like the heel(s) should win but they're not gonna have a heel sweep.

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    I'm thinking Kross, Io, Balor, Dream, Gargano and team Yim.

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    To be fair I was still thinking Balor as heel but he probably isn't against Priest.

    I won't be surprised if Dream wins but (possibly because of recent.... Events....) the whole.thing feels like it's had a crap build and Cole losing the belt without a proper crowd to celebrate it feels rubbish.

    I also think Candice's team should be winning the tag but given my previous post this is a more likely one to be given to the faces.

    Interesting that you think Io wins. I hope you're right and they save Rhea regaining for when the crowds are back.

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    I think the Dream events have been fully squashed now, although that pick might be a little hopeful.

    I picked Yim's because I can see them going 1-1 with the Gargano/Lee & Yim matches so as I have Gargano winning that I think Yim's team will win to even it up.

    I think the belt has to come off Flair as she doesn't need it and I'd like Io to win because I think she deserves it and I think her and Rhea could have a really good rivalry.

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    Flair could not win a belt in five years now and it wouldn't hurt her. She still will and it's why I'm not disagreeing with your reasoning but it makes it so hard to confidently pick her results.

    And I feel like with the build they've had La Rae and Gargano SHOULD be going 2-0 but... Man I dunno.

    If and when Lee loses I just hope it's because they're pushing him up a level.

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    I saw Stone Cold trending and the fear of God went through me. Thankfully he's just being a boss but you just never know with wrestlers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Flair could not win a belt in five years now and it wouldn't hurt her. She still will and it's why I'm not disagreeing with your reasoning but it makes it so hard to confidently pick her results.

    And I feel like with the build they've had La Rae and Gargano SHOULD be going 2-0 but... Man I dunno.

    If and when Lee loses I just hope it's because they're pushing him up a level.
    4 more to tie with Ric.

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    Also, I've just seen that R-Truth has had 36! reigns with the 24/7 title now.

    SMASHES Raven's 27 hardcore reigns.

    Truth has also won the tag titles, the US title twice and the old hardcore twice.

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    And still he'll be better known for Little Jimmy.

    It's way too late now but they missed a trick with Truth. He could have been quite a name.

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    Loved the old school intro but this "music" is bullshit.

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    When the woman was singing I really thought Bob Backlund was there, turned out to just be their bassist who looks nothing like him in any photo I can find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wullie View Post
    When the woman was singing I really thought Bob Backlund was there, turned out to just be their bassist who looks nothing like him in any photo I can find.
    It did and the other guy looked a bit like Damian Priest.

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    Balor/Priest was very good.

    Main Roster Balor is absolute shit compared to NXT Finn.

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    Keith Lee is absolutely glorious.

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    This Cole/Dream "match" has been shit so far.

    Why couldn't they have had an actual match?

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    The camera work is shocking.

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    I hope Rhea is ok. Looked like she took a full knee to the face with the moonsault.

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    That band at the start was absolute dogshit.

    As much as the build and placement on the card made it feel like filler I quite enjoyed the womens tag match.

    Balor vs. Priest I thought was fine but unremarkable. Fair play to Priest taking that stairs bump even if it wasn't how he intended it.

    Lee vs. Gargano I really enjoyed. Lee is immense, obvs, great heel work from Gargano and he didn't resort to stupid elaborate flippy sequences and I loved that both of them kept up the eye / fingers stuff too.

    Cole vs. Dream - A steaming heap of excrement. The way it was filmed was like a Kevin Dunn wet dream. I didn't have high hopes for a normal match between them anyway because of the poor build and finding Cole's style to be hit and miss but this was awful stuff.

    Kross and Ciampa was interesting. Kross' moveset continues to look very convincing and this match did exactly what they'd have been hoping for but I didn't expect him to run through Ciampa this way. I assume their next match will be a bit more even.

    The main event was comfortably the best thing on the card for me and I was pleased they didn't resort to just taking it in turns to lie down five minutes. A little sloppy in places and that ending didn't look fun for Ripley but I really enjoyed this one. There's been absolutely no point in what they've been doing with Charlotte this year beyond to get some accolades in the book for her. I'm sick of her being all over every show (it sounds like she accounted for about a quarter of Raw last night) because she clogs up the title scenes by never being out of it. Delighted for Shirai but they could just have easily had her be ending a longer Ripley rein at this point. Those two are really good though. Ripley is a star and I loved her intensity in this match.

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    New Japan Cup now due to start on 22nd June. Or the 16th depending on which bit of their site you want to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco View Post
    New Japan Cup now due to start on 22nd June. Or the 16th depending on which bit of their site you want to believe.

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    Heyman's been sacked in his role as Executive Director of Raw and Bruce Pritchard is taking over.

    Fucking Brother Love.

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    Dream to be booked as a gay jobber.

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    Luckily he's staying on NXT for now.

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    Hopefully he is the next NXT champion. Adam Cole is going to be burried like no tomorrow when he is called up.

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    Well Adam Cole has to drop it to someone else first.

    Cole -> Lumis -> Dream perhaps.

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    I had to check who he was. Might as well call it NXTNT if he winss.

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    Raw has probably been more consistent than it's been in ages (other than when it was consistently awful) so it figures Vince wouldn't like that.

    So long, Apollo Crews being treated like a relevant performer.

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    Also as much as he's still in prominent stories Lumis has lost his only two singles matches against non-jobbers clean, hasn't he? Doesn't reek of an impending title run. ( I haven't seen this week's NXT yet, I thought from the review I listened to it was clean but I could be wrong.)

    The Cole / Kross feud they're teasing would be weird too.

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    Surely Dream is the only option?

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    Looks like I might be wrong about Lumis' loss being clean but still, hasn't got a win against a non-jobber either way.

    And Dream now supposedly doesn't get a shot at Cole ever again so either they make some shit up to get around that or Dream needs to wait for somebody else to have the belt. But as you say there isn't really anybody else who seems ready to face Cole unless they take the NA belt off Lee.

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    Maybe Strong gets a run? They fueded in ROH before they all left.

    They are looking a bit thin booking wise atm.

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