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    Darren Pratley still going. Fair play.

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    These League One jobbers have run City pretty ragged.

    Think the problems there run a little deeper than just missing Rodri.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Darren Pratley still going. Fair play.
    Played in the prem for Bolton, which I'm guessing was around 1895.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    These League One jobbers have run City pretty ragged.

    Think the problems there run a little deeper than just missing Rodri.
    Also doesn't help that the newly in replacement, crocked what looked like his lower back inside the first half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post
    Played in the prem for Bolton, which I'm guessing was around 1895.


    I had to go check when they said his name. Feel like he was a good prospect back on like FM 05.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Just got lobbed from 50 yards by a league one jobber?
    So would every other keeper. No keeper is standing any differently - it was just a lovely hit

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    Jim just hates Argies. As any good patriot should.

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    Well, this match took off. Osula looks fun.

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    What a hit, son.

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    Absurd.

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    Robert Sanchez instantly recalled to the staring line up. What is wrong with these fuckers

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    We conceded a penalty after 20 seconds today. I feel that my praising Lampard's recent defensive record has caused the defence to immediately and violently shit themselves over the last two games.

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    Another goalkeeper for the firing squad. Must be the worst ever era for the position.

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    I’m curious what Sanchez has up his sleeve for us. He gave Brighton their two goals earlier in season

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    Should be another goal fest. A bunch of very average or terrible defenders on the pitch

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    Wow.

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    These Chelsea mangers and making caicedo play midfield on his own is getting out of hand. There is no one near him at all times

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    We should beat them six or seven with this centre back pair on.

    It's strange that all these high lines are played everywhere and basically only Micky van de Ven is capable of playing centre back in any such setup.

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    This Chelsea team are an absolute rabble. Is Sancho on loan or did they buy him? Send him back if you can, and as for Nkunku they'll be lucky to get sixty pence for him nevermind sixty million, absolute shite.

    Shame Verbruggen Sanchezed one in.

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    Nkunku will be the best player in Germany if he goes back. Maresca only ever plays him as a striker and it sucks badly

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    Also agree on Caicedo, having him do all the work is mad. Does Palmer usually play in this ten role or off the left? He's been quiet as well.

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    That goal sums up this game. Two horrendous teams with equally bad managers. Utter dog shit. Chelsea are definitely back to being a middle of the pack team. After spending 1 billion. Think of all the players they could have bought and they decided to spend it all on children

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    A lot of this comes from the fact that the centre backs are both Championship cloggers and yet the team is set up as if they are Baresi and Beckenbauer. Applies to Brighton's too.

    Neto countless free runs at a hapless Lamptey and delivers nothing.
    Last edited by Jimmy Floyd; 08-02-2025 at 09:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Also agree on Caicedo, having him do all the work is mad. Does Palmer usually play in this ten role or off the left? He's been quiet as well.
    Manager has done his best to nullify him for the last few months having him play centrally but in the left channel.

    Don’t know how you hire 3 absolute bum managers in a row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    A lot of this comes from the fact that the centre backs are both Championship cloggers. Applies to Brighton's too.
    Even Colwill has turned into an absolute retard too. It must be due to playing with an absolute clown behind you

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    Rutter.

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    This second half performance should be the end of a few players. Sancho shouldn't represent the club again other than at U23 level.

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    The longer palmer plays with these lose the worse he’ll get. He needs to beg for a move asap

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    89 minutes, 2-1 down in a cup tie, a centre half stands over a goal kick and gets closed down because there isn't a high press coming and he doesn't know what to do. How have we gone from Terry and Carvalho to this.

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    Brighton took 7 last week and were also the worst side Chelsea have faced all season and this is what the manager has served up. Definitely finishing between 8th and 10th. Imagine getting rid of 5/6 players and not replacing them as well.

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    Sancho's on £350,000 per week. A grade II listed house in York, every week.

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    I hope you never run out of these comparisons.

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    It's funny that the doom mongering United fans use Sancho as an example of someone who has excelled since leaving. I see Antony got his second consecutive MOTM today, so he'll be next.

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    By far the biggest away contingent I've seen at Brighton, they had the whole south stand and a bit of the east, and being a bunch of cunts I was expecting a lot of noise but they must have been among the quietest away fans I've seen. I assume they've just been broken by the absolute dreck Baldie and Co have them serving up and/or the drugs dogs were working overtime in the queue to get in.

    Brighton much the better side, and Brighton are pretty shit.

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    If you forget Palmer, there's basically nothing to support. 15-20 useless trading pieces who will be somewhere else within two years and replaced by equally useless clones. I might as well just cheer on the boot in Monopoly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SvN View Post
    It's funny that the doom mongering United fans use Sancho as an example of someone who has excelled since leaving. I see Antony got his second consecutive MOTM today, so he'll be next.
    Apparently those are fan voted. So it’s certainly just a banter vote.

    Sancho is just a waster. Really wanted him to work at United but he just has no interest in trying after a couple of month. Chelsea need to do what we couldn’t and convince him Saudi is the way.

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    Chelsea have an obligation to buy unless they finish below 14th. Best bit of business we've done in ages

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    Sancho just plays fifa all day and all night.

    Fucking great career if you can get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Chelsea have an obligation to buy unless they finish below 14th. Best bit of business we've done in ages
    United cleverly packing out the bottom half of the table to thwart Chelsea from finishing down there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    United cleverly packing out the bottom half of the table to thwart Chelsea from finishing down there.
    4D checkers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    Two horrendous teams with equally bad managers.
    Think this is a bit harsh on Hurzeler. He's definitely in the modern ilk, and extremely naive at times, but up until getting brained by Forest they looked like they were adapting their style of play a bit - although somewhat ironically that was in a period where they didn't get many wins which is maybe what triggered the return to just the way we play mate style rubbish against Forest. I think, like other managers who insist on this style of play, he can point to the fact that he doesn't really have the players for it in quite a few positions and as we all know there is no scope for adjusting the ideology.

    Maresca didn't look like he had much of a clue on the touchline.

    I do wonder if it isn't some national conspiracy to reduce future pension deficits. The average age of a match goer at Brighton must be approaching if not exceeding retirement age. That must be more and more common acorss the game seeing as that generation are the only ones who can afford it. All this fannying around at the back can't be doing anything for those ageing hearts. Blood pressure through the roof.

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    I think the Premier League business model (high ticket prices / Sky subscriptions) is in real trouble long term. Middle class Gen Z aren't going to have anything to do with either of those things. Working class gen Z might but the prices will have to come down.

    I remain amazed that crowds in general are as high as they are, especially when about 60% of those people spend the whole time furious and want the manager sacked. Maybe that's what it is, an outlet for general frustration.
    Last edited by Jimmy Floyd; 09-02-2025 at 10:21 AM.

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    On the SKY model I don’t thing the PL cares, they have realised now the big growth is from the overseas revenue and that can get much bigger over the next few years so that continues to give them the ‘growth’ they need for the next 10 years or so.

    Realistically they don’t need the UK income to grow just remain steady.

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    My son is fairly unique in liking football in his year group, and that's only because I take him to every home game at Southend. If it were up to TV alone I doubt he would be. The odd FA Cup game on terrestrial tv isn't enough of a hook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Working class gen Z might but the prices will have to come down.
    On the Sky subscription front don't all working class gen Z types have IPTV or whatever it is called?

    I think the only thing that could break it is if they introduce proper spending controls on the top teams and they are therefore less able to acquire and hoard world talent. Real Madrid alone present a bit of an existential threat, as a significant number of young adults seem to maintain the infantile obsession with star names that everyone has as a kid but historically you tended to grow out of as you become an actual fan. The Messi Ronaldo Media Industrial Complex.

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    Local radio was how I followed stuff as a kid. Nowadays, it's BBC updates and the odd game on TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    On the Sky subscription front don't all working class gen Z types have IPTV or whatever it is called?

    I think the only thing that could break it is if they introduce proper spending controls on the top teams and they are therefore less able to acquire and hoard world talent. Real Madrid alone present a bit of an existential threat, as a significant number of young adults seem to maintain the infantile obsession with star names that everyone has as a kid but historically you tended to grow out of as you become an actual fan. The Messi Ronaldo Media Industrial Complex.
    Next five years yeah, but in twenty years how are they filling the grounds at these prices? Like you say, the average age now must be pushing 55. I could see a future where the overseas TV deal / Asian gambling subsidises lower ticket prices here.

    A colleague of mine was telling me that his ten year old exclusively knows football through Messi-Ronaldo Youtube, which is enough for him to want all the Ronaldo merch in existence. Has never watched a TV game of football let alone a live one.

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    Maybe, but then weirdly price sensitivity isn't so much of an issue. Tickets for cup games are considerably cheaper than tickets for league games and attendances do not reflect this differential - as you have pointed out in earlier rounds. I can't see the attendance from last night online, are they making this harder to find or something? I bet the game on Friday night has a bigger attendance despite prices probably being two to three times higher for pretty much exactly the same game, if anything a less important game.

    A lot of kids there last night which is probably a function of the pricing [my nephew went with his season ticket holder grandad], which is good, but also the fact that you can get seats next to each other for cup games which you basically can't for league games.

    Maybe the plan is just for the baby boomers to live forever with a reasonably limitless supply of cash to pour into the 'matchday experience'.

    At least until it can be NFL-ized.

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    Just looking at Maresa's comments after the game, is he nuts?

    We started very good, the first half the only shot we conceded on goal was their goal. We controlled, created some chances. And the second half it was more the same.
    That was a match that only he was watching.

    I suppose, in isolation some of those statements [2 and 4] are true and if you reverse 1 and 3 it's bang on.

    Stared poorly, conceded from only shot on target against, displayed no real control and created very few chances, second half was more of the same.

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    First half I thought both teams were shite. Second half, Brighton improved (Rutter the best player on the park) and Chelsea got immeasurably worse.

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