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    Yes. They need to engage with the black youth (who famously can't stand football), and what better way to do that than to get a rapist and Ezri Konsa to talk street to each other on camera under the auspices of Marks & Spencer.

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    It's alright, Carseball's grand vision for the future of football has gone in the bin after 20 minutes on the training pitch and a bad game against Greece. Just not the way we play, I guess.

    Palmer adding himself into the Bellingham/Foden clusterfuck is certainly going to be an insurmountable challenge for whoever they appoint.

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    You’d imagine Kane comes back in for Gordon when fit but then we’ve still got to axe one of Palmer, Bellingham, Foden or Saka to prevent us being an embarrassment in midfield.

    Who should it be? And who will it be?

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    They need Adam Wharton in for Foden. Fuck it, Lewis Cook, whoever it takes for the side to be balanced.

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    Wharton is a good shout. I couldn’t get Conor Gallagher out of my head so anything is an improvement over him.

    Although he seems to be Simeone’s best bud already.

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    It should be an easy choice to axe Foden in favour of someone like Wharton. Bellingham and Palmer have at least done something in an England shirt.

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    Maybe a bit harsh on Foden, even if Palmer was England Mens Player of the Year with 2 starts [no competitive ones, that game the other night was his first start in an allegedly competitive match] and 1 goal. Strong year.

    If Foden gets chucked, fair enough, does Palmer then just go out and be the problem on that left flank, assuming Bellingham stays as the maverick 10 or whatever it is? Doesn't feel like that will have a much better outcome in terms of the way the team plays. It'll just be the wasting of Paul Scholes all over again. Has Bellingham gone full Gerrard now in terms of the transition from industrious workhorse to must build the team around me maestro?

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    So we now have our generations "How do we fit Gerrard, Scholes and Lampard in the same team?"

    The only possible solution is play Bellingham LM.

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    If that generation of England players was around now, it would be Hargreaves behind Gerrard and Lampard which would work extremely well, David Beckham at right back (sorry Gaz Nev), and Joe Cole 'off the left'. Emile Heskey would be the lone frontman with Owen coming off the bench on 74 minutes.

    All eras fall into the same problem which is if everyone plays the same system then the best footballers all get drawn to one role, and guess what it's happening again.

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    Be that as it may, and it is in interesting point, it was only really the onset of the Golden Generation that saw this problem manifest itself as a selection issue. Before then players just weren't picked. Le Tissier never got a game, for example, as was the case with many of the good English forwards in the 90s.

    Has the onset of Championship Manager, where picking 5 attacking midfielders/forwards has almost always been a viable strategy, warped the minds of fans, the media and coaches alike?

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    Carsley is Guimenez in disguise.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Maybe a bit harsh on Foden, even if Palmer was England Mens Player of the Year with 2 starts [no competitive ones, that game the other night was his first start in an allegedly competitive match] and 1 goal. Strong year.

    If Foden gets chucked, fair enough, does Palmer then just go out and be the problem on that left flank, assuming Bellingham stays as the maverick 10 or whatever it is? Doesn't feel like that will have a much better outcome in terms of the way the team plays. It'll just be the wasting of Paul Scholes all over again. Has Bellingham gone full Gerrard now in terms of the transition from industrious workhorse to must build the team around me maestro?
    Bellingham basically played as a striker all year for Real Madrid. I don’t think we’ll see him deeper again

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Be that as it may, and it is in interesting point, it was only really the onset of the Golden Generation that saw this problem manifest itself as a selection issue. Before then players just weren't picked. Le Tissier never got a game, for example, as was the case with many of the good English forwards in the 90s.

    Has the onset of Championship Manager, where picking 5 attacking midfielders/forwards has almost always been a viable strategy, warped the minds of fans, the media and coaches alike?
    Probably more the onset of money/celebrity culture and the associated pressures. Imagine the modern day ramifications of Alf Ramsey leaving out Jimmy Greaves in '66, it would have destroyed the camp from the inside. Although in those days I think it was less a camp and more them just turning up for games, which probably also helped.

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    I'm very pro international break, but fucking hell, get the England game on the Saturday PLEASE. In a fruitless search for live sport I've been driven to watching the America's Cup, which should actually be renamed the New Zealand's Cup since they win it literally every time and are once again giving the challenger boat, in this case INEOS, a pasting. All the commentators are kiwis too, it feels like their version of one of those Soviet military parades.

    Why are there games on a Thursday night? It's ludicrous.

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    There's pool on.

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    Grand Final of the Super League on soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    I'm very pro international break, but fucking hell, get the England game on the Saturday PLEASE. In a fruitless search for live sport I've been driven to watching the America's Cup, which should actually be renamed the New Zealand's Cup since they win it literally every time and are once again giving the challenger boat, in this case INEOS, a pasting. All the commentators are kiwis too, it feels like their version of one of those Soviet military parades.

    Why are there games on a Thursday night? It's ludicrous.
    For 'the oldest trophy in sport' or whatever it is they claim it is, The Americas Cup really is the shitest 'contest' going. Not that sailing is ever anything but a complete snooze-fest. What the fuck are these bike driven flying boats all about?

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    I'm a twit

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    The celebration

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    Do they not know what 'overhead' means?

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    London is blue

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    Liverpool's red,
    London is blue,
    Finland are shite,
    Sorry Penald-oo.

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    Parrott for Azaz, Mikey Johnston should really be starting too. Certain loss anyway, so fuck it.

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    Preferred Jimmy's rhyme but solid effort Giggles.

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    Carsebald sounds like he's chucked the towel in in terms of getting the full time job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soldier View Post
    Preferred Jimmy's rhyme but solid effort Giggles.
    London is blue? I thought they were either still talking about the woman's overhead kick or the Chicago Bears.

    Waffelz is enough of a joke that he's hardly celebrating England wins now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Carsebald sounds like he's chucked the towel in in terms of getting the full time job.
    I'm sure he's actively said he doesn't want it.

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    I always thought Baldock was the English lad who changed his name when he changed country, but see the same name now. Who was that again?

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    Brereton-Diaz?

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    That's the one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    London is blue? I thought they were either still talking about the woman's overhead kick or the Chicago Bears.

    Waffelz is enough of a joke that he's hardly celebrating England wins now.
    Hi Giggles

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    Greece should be about 3 up already, the difference in touch and control between the two teams is as wide as I've ever seen.

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    In fairness to Carsley, England under 21 manager is an absolutely dream job. Get to work with amazing players all the time without being bothered about their salary / agents being twats, or having to develop too much of a relationship with them because they'll be too old soon anyway. Work in a nice office at a nice facility in the midlands, chilling for most of the year. No one gives a solitary fuck about results, but you get a reasonable crack at silverware every couple of years. Would love that job.

    Southgate was probably too patriotic to turn down the big job and then made a decent go at it. Carsley doesn't come across as patriotic at all, not least I suppose because he played for another country. So it's no surprise if he can't be arsed with all the balls that comes with the job. Welcome Pep.

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    Most International management seems boring dogshit. Unless you're Harvre Renard turning up to get a tan and look sexy in a white shirt for 18 months I'm not sure what the appeal is.

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    Money for not much work.

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    Feels like the game is on the precipice of eating itself with all of the various legal actions blighting everything.

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    Might not be a bad thing in the long run.

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    Indeed.

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    Players going on strike and clubs having to field local pub teams

    We might actually win a few games.

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    Because you're already fielding a pub team.


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    This better not mean less internationals.

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    FIFA does have a point when it accuses the Big Clubs of filling every available spare second with long-haul friendlies. They'd have a lot more of a leg to stand on if they actually gave the players rest rather than doing that.

    Really of course this is about the number of weeks of money that go to each side in the FIFA-Big Clubs war, rather than about player welfare. Huge blow for the Big Clubs if the FIFA thing takes off.

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    That's fine as long as FIFA are happy for the THE BIG CLUBS to treat the World Club Cup in the same manner as tour friendlies are treated, but I get the impression that they wouldn't like that. 11 subs at half time and all.

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    That young Francis lad from Arsenal looked handy this evening, head and shoulders above really. I presume he's fairly young if he's on loan over here.

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    INEOS have finally fired a United manager.

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    And he's not got his winter fuel payments.

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    Tommy Tactics.

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    I'm all for that. Hopefully downs the sausage-munchers in the next tournament and does the dam buster goggles at their bench.
    Last edited by Jimmy Floyd; 15-10-2024 at 12:47 PM.

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    So you're telling me we won two world wars and got Brexit done and we are still going for a German manager. This used to be a real country.

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