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  • IT. IS. COMING. HOME.

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  • Spain

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  • Germany

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  • France

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  • Portugal

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  • Italy

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  • Actually I think [insert team who won't win] could win it!

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Thread: Euro 2024: The Knockouts

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    A mate asked me this other day and I don’t repeat it to denigrate Southgate, but because I find it an interesting question.

    How many European Championships would you need to win before they’d be worth as much as one World Cup?

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    2 consecutively, or 3 in total.

    Edit: actually, probably more. The World Cup is the pinacle of all sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I don't know much about Alf Ramsey but wasn't he a similarly disliked anti-football type - didn't pick Jimmy Greaves, didn't play with wingers as was the style of the time etc?
    He also took Charlton off in 1970 when 2-0 up against Germany IIRC in the quarter finals and then lost. Which is proper amateur hour stuff.

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    No amount. Simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post

    Edit: actually, probably more. The World Cup is the pinacle of all sport.
    That was where I quickly got to. Then I took it to the extreme by saying we’d win every edition for the rest of time and I still wasn’t sure that was worth a single World Cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    No amount. Simple as that.
    Yep, this was my final answer. Curious to see if others agree.

    Also makes for a very compelling reason for Sir Gareth to stay, win or lose on Sunday.

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    You were great in the first half hour but it took a singular sub from Koeman to completely neutralize you. I don't think it will matter for the final since you'd imagine Spain's midfield were already going to smother your play even without that knowledge, but it's not the most encouraging of things.

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    I am pretty pessimistic about tomorrow. I think England have to somehow crank the luck dial up even further.

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    I base this on almost nothing tangible, but I’m increasingly of the opinion that we’re going to win.

    It just feels like this is it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Nobody remembers how. Only win is important.
    This is it.

    To go somehow about for a second. I've seen Liverpool win possibly the best ever CL final and possibly also the worst ever CL final. Both count the same in the history books and no fucker will remember in 5 years time how shite that Spurs one was.

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    England (MENs) are in their second major international final and this place is just moaning. Never change lads.

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    A Euros would be very close to a World Cup, it's just the same thing minus Brazil and Argentina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    This is it.

    To go somehow about for a second. I've seen Liverpool win possibly the best ever CL final and possibly also the worst ever CL final. Both count the same in the history books and no fucker will remember in 5 years time how shite that Spurs one was.
    It is annoying how good the squad is, though. Like if Scotland shat their way to a win nobody would care but it's annoying how the best squad is going to do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoonsky View Post
    It's Southgate's Machievellian genius. He's got them wrapped around his finger in a way no England manager probably ever has (or who knows, maybe Alf Ramsey was a master of mind games too).
    Alf put on a posh accent for all of it. I consider that a step up in commitment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Nobody remembers how. Only win is important.
    Like Barnes’ goal against Brazil. Never mind the rest of his games where he was basically Ali Dia.
    I'm a twit

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    Isn't that the complete opposite?

    And no one will forget the 2005 Champions League final, whereas most are completely forgettable, hopefully this one too from a wider football perspective as that'll mean England have probably won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Gaslighting Gareth
    You have to appreciate the craft.

    Had we gone out in the first knockout round here, I know I've managed this period better than I did in Russia (at the 2018 World Cup), but that wouldn't be how it was viewed and it would sound like nonsense to the man in the street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    England (MENs) are in their second major international final and this place is just moaning. Never change lads.
    Gaslighting Gareth and No Kontext Kiko.

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    Man, I forgot how much that French linesman liked us in '96. No way we should've won that game.

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    Ok, it feels fucking weird to see a Wimbledon final and we’re still in a major tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Something in me would love to see Southgate try to Tournament Football his way through a 48 team World Cup.

    'Gareth, you drew 0-0 with Uzbekistan in Des Moines, and squeaked past Curaçao with a 97th minute own goal. Do you not accept that Kieran Trippier has lost his pace?'

    'Listen, Harvey, there are no easy games at this level. We're top of Group N and we're through to the next round.'
    I just want to have it known that I thought this was a very funny post and I felt like it was underappreciated.

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    Kalvin Phillips killed on D-Day.

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    Any good sources for the likely lineups? I’ll be four Guinness deep by the time they’re announced tomorrow and I want to sort my fantasy team out.
    I'm a twit

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    Same team as last time for England.

    Spain same but with Carvajal and Le Normand back from suspension unless chef Arsene can poison their paella.

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    Anyone want to hazard a guess at the last time England were underdogs at a major tournament?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -james- View Post
    Anyone want to hazard a guess at the last time England were underdogs at a major tournament?
    You’re talking about stupid bookies odds, right?

    Hmmm. We should have been against France in the WC, but I’m guessing from the way you’ve asked the question it isn’t that so I’m gonna say Brazil in the 2002 World Cup.

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    I missed the 2018 third place play-off on my first scan but I'll conveniently ignore that.





    50/50 against France in Qatar. Euro 2012 opener against them before that. Tonight we are the biggest price since 2002.
    Last edited by -james-; 14-07-2024 at 11:30 AM.

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    I'm pretty sure we're going to get played off the pitch, but then I've thought that for the last 3 games.

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    Played off the pitch but somehow win.

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    That's top tier work.

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    Shaw rumoured to be starting now.

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    I don’t think I’ve ever had as much unjustified optimism going into an England match as this.

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    Completely justified. We are gonna smash the absolute granny out these little cunts.

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    Shaw in. It’s coming home.

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    Fatman starts. Yamal in the mud [and pocket].

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    Yamal against the fatty

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    Build up already has me reaching for the Sombrero. Insufferable.

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    Pub is bouncing.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Build up already has me reaching for the Sombrero. Insufferable.
    They’re in a final of the first proper tournament since 2018, let them off

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    Let's fucking have it you Spanish cunts.

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    4-1 Spain.

    Here we go.

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    Imagine being Juan Mata and having to listen to Rio Ferdinand and Micah Richards in each ear.

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    Mahow you are a faggot.

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    Shedding a tear here, at both the build up and the above post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Mahow you are a faggot.
    Ban please.

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