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    The problem will be licences.

    The vast majority of people wont play a game with every team having a fake name.

    Yes for the more savvy of us we'll use an edit but those who just buy the game and play as their favourite team? No chance and I'd imagine that makes up most of the fanbase.

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    Many eyebrows were raised when we dropped $66m on a 17yr old Daniel Clywd from Arsenal.

    3 goals and 2 assists on debut



    The 8 work rate is a slight worry, but everything looks great.


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    Have you bought him as a striker or MC? If the former, no prob imo. If the latter, I'd want more work rate.

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    Probs fine then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    I've been playing a new save lately & just finished the 2025/26 season, so thought I'd drop an update. I've got my own massively customised database with most of the summer transfers etc in, as well as ratings/rep changes etc, so holidayed that forward to December 2024 & started a Director of Football save, but I've properly committed to the bit & made a spreadsheet with measurable targets for all the club vision goals, which I then grade performance against & if the manager falls below the required number of points he's gone - also have separate targets for myself, and if I fail those I'm out too. The club vision determines my general approach to hiring the manager, the way we play etc, but the manager picks the side & the player roles & I instant result the games.

    Anyways, I got to the end of the year & had a look to see if there happened to be any teams that actually had a DOF vacancy. Turned out there were only two - Dorking, and the team I settled for, Bordeaux. I was a bit disappointed, as they're an obvious choice, but they had the vacancy & an under pressure manager, so it made sense to roll with them.
    Just got to midseason in Ligue 1 & we've done our best to work with the very limited budgets at our disposal. We started the summer with a wage budget half the size of the next lowest team, and PSG's is 40 times bigger, so not exactly ideal, particularly given the only way I'm allowed to increase it is by asking the board - no adjusting the budgets for some extra difficulty. We did still manage to make some transfers though, largely aided by a few sales for surprisingly large fees, and me realising I could pay bigger loan fees to cut down on wage contributions just in time to nab a couple of extra recruits. Lambourde & Yildirim coming back permanently after their loans was the main goal, but we've made decent upgrades across the board, so despite the media predicting us 17th I felt okay about us avoiding a proper relegation battle.

    We've only had the league to focus on so far, so there hasn't been too much pressure on our tiny squad - currently 22 players, but that includes a backup GK that hasn't played & 3 other guys with 0 starts, which still only left us £10k under the wage budget. Annoyingly, we've drawn Nantes in the first (ninth) round of the Coupe de France, so we might not be in that for long. It's gone okay so far though, with us currently sitting 10th with a nice cushion on the relegation spots. We've also managed to wrangle a £50k increase to the wage budget, so hopefully I'll be able to make a few signings in January that can help push us on a bit more.

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    Today is supposed to be the reveal. Not looking great.

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    You'd imagine Sega are losing their minds at this point.

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    I'm likely in the minority nowadays, but the annoying thing for me is that the graphics never bothered. I'm a instant result/commentary only player, anyway. FM should never be about graphics, but I appreciate that's not what new fans probably want.

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    Fucking boomer.

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    When I was a lad playing CM97/98...

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    Lads.

    There's no news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Arne View Post


    When I was a lad playing CM97/98...
    I actually still only play 01/02.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    I actually still only play 01/02.
    01/02 was a belter of a release for CM. The only thing that bothered me with that one was it being in the era of the two phase group stage for the champions league. A lot of games.

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    This is genuinely astonishing. Just completely ignored their previous date and not even released a fluff piece PR statement. Thins must be worse than we ever imagined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    It's gone okay so far though, with us currently sitting 10th with a nice cushion on the relegation spots. We've also managed to wrangle a £50k increase to the wage budget, so hopefully I'll be able to make a few signings in January that can help push us on a bit more.
    We've hurried through to the end of the season, and it's gone rather well.

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    We've also had a takeover, although it hasn't really changed much other than the club becoming a PLC, and with the club now settled back at the top & our transfer budget for next season still under £20m I'm thinking it might be a good time to look for a move elsewhere. There are a few interesting jobs available - Arsenal, Villa, Atalanta, Betis & Osasuna being the most notable - so we'll see whether I'm actually still here next season.

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    Starting to think, more and more, that we won't get an FM25 and they'll hold out until '26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    There are a few interesting jobs available - Arsenal, Villa, Atalanta, Betis & Osasuna being the most notable - so we'll see whether I'm actually still here next season.
    I am not.



    They finished 7th last season, which sounds great unless you were looking closely at the text in the announcement.

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    The squad needs a proper overhaul, with maybe two players in the squad that look like they could be building blocks, but we have about £70m to spend & £300k p/w free in the wage budget, so it should be interesting to see what I can do with about 6x the budgets I had at Bordeaux. I've also made Cannavaro the actual manager there now, so hopefully he'll continue to keep them going strong.

    First things first for Betis though, gotta go find a manager. The board want attacking football & a focus on young players, so I've had a look at some available coaches & also put an advert out. There are a couple of interesting names that could be towards the top of my list though...
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    Amazon has a listing for FM25 physical copies stating it will release on 31st March: https://amzn.eu/d/aNISUnc

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    Just a placeholder.

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    Are you fucking kidding me? Chelsea keeper scores a 92nd minutes equaliser to make it 4-4


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    The FM subreddit is being really weird, a lot of "simping" as the kids would say. The internet has plenty of whiney crybabies that need holding to account (myself included!!) but this ain't it - it's basically people rightly saying SI and Miles are a shambles and people getting weirdly defensive.

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    Anyone tried this?

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    If I had to guess the SI simps harbour dreams of becoming an FM youtuber who gets soapy titwanks from Miles and co so don't want to scupper any chance with some dodgy post history.

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    FM YouTubers are so shit that I have genuinely considered giving it a go myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by igor_balis View Post
    FM YouTubers are so shit that I have genuinely considered giving it a go myself
    Do it, you've got the voice for it.

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    Liverpool are in serious trouble here

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    What's a Man UFC?

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    Liverpool an United both going down in the same season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    What's a Man UFC?
    My real name fix stopped working.

    It's not as bad as fucking Casciavit (AC Milan) and Blu-Neri (Inter) in Serie A

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    Wayne Rooney's Plymouth on the warpath.

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    They were third a few games ago but they've only gotten 6 points in their last 5 games.

    First season ever in the Prem in my save too, so it's insane.

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    Just thinking about FM25... one thing I will credit Miles with - he has clearly built a massively loyal team. Not one iota of a leak from the team working on the game - like it's impressive that someone hasn't leaked at least an update or excuse.
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    There's no FM25 leak because there's no FM25, I reckon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    There's no FM25 leak because there's no FM25, I reckon.
    This is what I'm thinking. Complete radio silence since the delay announcement, save for furthering the bad news with a no data update announcement.

    If they had got on top of it they'd be showing us their shiny new thing they're really proud of.
    This way though is still the better way to go. A delayed game will frustrate people, but releasing a broken mess might turn people away for good.

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    The whole saga is more interesting than the last 3 or 4 editions of the game I've played at least.

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    You're still able to pre-order it on Steam and have been for months, surely that would be such a catastrophic non-event that they'd lose an unacceptable shit ton of money.

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    One of the FM Youtubers was saying he still thinks it will be released because they are still taking payments for it and it would torch their reputation even more if they were taking money for a game at this point when it was obvious there wouldn't be one. Then again he also said it could just be an issue with the new licencing needing signing off but that doesn't really explain why they have said nothing or shown nothing since the delay announcement.

    Maybe they tried to rebalance the women's game after the lol screenshot and their brains melted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Do it, you've got the voice for it.
    And the imagination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    First things first for Betis though, gotta go find a manager. The board want attacking football & a focus on young players, so I've had a look at some available coaches & also put an advert out. There are a couple of interesting names that could be towards the top of my list though...
    Hit the midpoint of the 27/28 season with Betis, so it's update time.

    The first job was to hire a manager who fit with the club vision to play attacking football & focus on younger players, so after putting some feelers out there we settled on Cesc Fabregas, who narrowly edged out Frank Lampard because I felt the squad suited a 4231 more than a 433.

    The next job was transfers. We had £70m to spend, plus £400k p/w in available wages, which is way more than I had at Bordeaux, and more than enough to put together a good side:
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    We obviously shouldn't be in the second division, and we're just way too financially dominant compared to everyone else - after digging into the warchest our annual salaries are almost double the size of the next highest team in the league. We were the odds on favourites to go up, despite the club only asking for playoffs, so you can probably guess how the first half of the season has gone...
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    We're on track for basically every target I've set - the only ones that could be close are the targets around homegrown at club players as we're reliant on one or two players for the bulk of the HGC minutes, but even if we fall short there we should tick everything else off the club vision, so we should have everything in place behind the scenes to allow us to build for on pitch success.

    Quick update on Bordeaux while I'm here. I'd set Fabio Cannavaro as their actual manager once I left, with him having led them to the CL in their first season back in Ligue 1 last season. This year has not gone quite so well for him though.

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    FM25 officially cancelled.

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    How do you fuck up something so badly, especially when it's something they've done fuck all work on for over a decade.

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    Home working I bet.

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    Daaaam.


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    Probably the right decision.

    Releasing the statement at 2am is a final fuck you to some.

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    lol. lmao even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Home working I bet.
    All they had to do was change the skin a bit, lob in the womens game, a few more pointless questions in the 'interviews' and it'd have sold as well as any of them have with nobody batting an eyelid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    All they had to do was change the skin a bit, lob in the womens game, a few more pointless questions in the 'interviews' and it'd have sold as well as any of them have with nobody batting an eyelid.
    They've been lazy like this for years and could have kept getting away with it, but this move means they really have to pull it out of the bag for FM26 now. If it's bug-ridden or hardly an improvement over FM24, then a lot of fans could be turned away.

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