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    Can't believe anyone is really questioning the ref regarding the penalty or the red card tonight. They seemed like fairly straightforward decisions, and Holding in particular was a red card waiting to happen - he made about 2 or 3 bookable offences before getting his first yellow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Ambitions of CL football with Nketiah leading the line
    Still sat in 4th with 2 games left and Nketiah leading the line

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    Really hope Palace beat United and West Ham get something from City (obvs) and/or Brighton.
    I'm a twit

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    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/61431507

    "If I say what I think I am suspended for six months," said Arteta when asked about the officiating.

    "I don't know how to lie so I prefer not to say what I think. I cannot say what I think.

    "I am not unhappy with my players. I am proud of my players. I want the referee to come in front of the camera and explain his decisions. It's a shame because such a beautiful game was destroyed.

    "The decision was made. We can't change it. The referee has to make a decision in football."


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    100% correct.

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    While they weren't the most clear cut things I've ever seen, it's hard to argue against both the penalty and red card once they've been given.

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    Arsenal have the softest fanbase in history. Anything goes against them they basically turn into emos chugging My Chemical Romance out of tinny headphones.

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    The penalty looks fine. He's not playing the ball. Same goes for the sending off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Arsenal have the softest fanbase in history. Anything goes against them they basically turn into emos chugging My Chemical Romance out of tinny headphones.
    MCR just released their first new song since 2014. Coincidence? Or is Gerard Way a closet gooner?

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    With the penalty don't give the ref the option to give it by being so fucking retarded. I don't even think it is that soft the ball is nowhere near them and he has just barged into him.

    Anyway Arsenal are the new Liverpool in that all you ever hear is how they have the better players than anyone else in every position until it actually comes to playing a decent team and they get trounced by them.

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    Gary Neville said it on commentary regarding the penalty: if you're subtle enough and time it to just before the ball getting to you then you can ease the attacker off the ball like Cedric did and get away with it.

    Alas, Cedric had neither timing nor subtlety.

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    Any manager who a) says they want the ref to be dragged in front of the camera to explain themselves and then b) says it's about RUINING THE GAME and not because they're seething their hole off wants booting down some stairs.

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    If I was a ref and was 'dragged in front of the camera to explain myself', I'd just bring a copy of the IFAB Laws of the Game and keep saying 'Who knows these better, me or you?' until everyone got bored and went home.

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    It is an absolutely ridiculous suggestion.

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    I wouldn't be completely averse to the idea of a referee doing interviews but they need to do it every game and when they made only brilliant decisions too. Everyone just clamours for it when they perceive the ref has fucked up which is the main reason why we'll never hear from them.

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    It's not a surprise that referees are a dying breed when you've got managers basically calling them out at the top of the game. Why get into a profession that pays shit and you get abused? Get over it Arteta you knobhead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Emia View Post
    With the penalty don't give the ref the option to give it by being so fucking retarded. I don't even think it is that soft the ball is nowhere near them and he has just barged into him.

    Anyway Arsenal are the new Liverpool in that all you ever hear is how they have the better players than anyone else in every position until it actually comes to playing a decent team and they get trounced by them.
    Really? I don't think anyone is saying Cedric, Holding, Tavares, El Neny, Xhaka, Pepe, Nketiah or Lacazette are better than anyone else in their positions, definitely not any Arsenal fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    It's not a surprise that referees are a dying breed when you've got managers basically calling them out at the top of the game. Why get into a profession that pays shit and you get abused? Get over it Arteta you knobhead.
    Happens throughout football from the highest level down to under 8s and is probably the biggest scourge on it as a sport.

    There's no respect for the referee culturally built into the game whatsoever, just forlorn top-down 'respect' campaigns. In this respect I think it lags behind every other sport I can think of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Really? I don't think anyone is saying Cedric, Holding, Tavares, El Neny, Xhaka, Pepe, Nketiah or Lacazette are better than anyone else in their positions, definitely not any Arsenal fans.
    Saka, Odergaard, Partey, Tierney, Ramsdale, Martinelli, White & Tomiyasu at varying points this season when you have won 3 or 4 games against shite have been lauded as some kind of second coming of the invincibles when in reality they are decent players who blow fairly hot and cold.

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    Tierney is an awful ref it has to be said by the way. But as has been touched on up the page the standard of ref's in the league in general is terrible and it doesn't seem as if anything is really being done to make that standard better.

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    'Professionalism' and 'respect for the rules/officials' are, if not mutually exclusive concepts, not natural bedfellows.

    Undue deference to 'authority' in the face of abject incompetence isn't probably something that benefits society anyway.

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    If we're going down that road, then Arteta on Ł3.6 million a year coming out and publicly berating someone paid 2% of that (according to back of a fag packet calculations) on his performance isn't a great look either.

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    You don't improve the pool of referees by making abuse acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    The penalty looks fine. He's not playing the ball. Same goes for the sending off.
    Ye I am not sure what all this is about. Both calls seemed fairly reasonable to me.

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    I can’t wait for next week and see 35 penalties a game as these refs know the rules better than anyone. And we’ll just sit there and clap the ref off because without them, the game couldn’t happen.

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    The penalty wouldn't have been given 9 times out of 10, but it's within the rules to give it, so moaning is silly. The red was a red, and as for the Son "elbow", lol, have a day off. Watch it in real time.

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    The seethe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    The penalty wouldn't have been given 9 times out of 10, but it's within the rules to give it, so moaning is silly
    How dumb is this sentence. Everything is within the rules to give.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    How dumb is this sentence. Everything is within the rules to give.
    Is it? You can give a penalty for passing the ball to another player then?

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    Referees should earn more but also be subjected to more abuse and questioning. We can do without going down the gay rugby route of RESPECTING THE REFEREES DECISION MATE.

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    You’d think Arsenal had blown their chances at top 4 with the way he’s carrying on. Fucking hell.

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    He's legitimately unhinged when it comes to Spurs. I've never seen an adult buy in to tribal rivalry so much.

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    I didn’t complain about Spurs. I said the ref was shit. It had nothing to do with what team we were playing. We’ll probably still finish top 4 and then next year the refs will still be dog shit. Why should I suck off bad decisions.

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    sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    He's legitimately unhinged when it comes to Spurs. I've never seen an adult buy in to tribal rivalry so much.
    El Hennerz vs Team Idiot.

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    'Henners mate the moderator's made his decision, yeah? Mate. Mate he's made his decision...'

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    99 times out of 100 he wouldn’t make the decision he made but this is the one time he made the decision so why are you mad about it…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Referees should earn more but also be subjected to more abuse and questioning. We can do without going down the gay rugby route of RESPECTING THE REFEREES DECISION MATE.
    That filters down to every level though and turns the refs on Ł25 a game in grass roots/kids football into punching bags.

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    I couldn’t give two shits about grass roots/kids football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I couldn’t give two shits about grass roots/kids football.
    Then you have absolutely no business watching the sport, or certainly not caring about it enough to seethe this much.

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    Okay, Helen Lovejoy.

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    My old man once decked somebody at an under-fifteens rugby match because the bloke slapped my brother. Turned out my brother had racially abused his son and said his mum was a mail order bride (which was probably true).

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Okay, Helen Lovejoy.

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    As if phonics has lost it this much over two fairly standard refereeing decisions.

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    What is this world where saying what you think on a forum is losing it. Yesterday I was mad. Today I’m just saying the ‘we must respect people being incompetent for the children’ is dumb.

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    A referee can be incompetent but it doesn't give players the right to scream abuse at him. Unfortunately it happens enough in top-level football and filters down all the way to youth games and Sunday league because they see the overpaid babies on TV doing it.

    You might work with someone who is a bit useless at what they do, but you don't get the right to get in his face screaming he's a cunt.

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    This is some meltdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thommo View Post
    A referee can be incompetent but it doesn't give players the right to scream abuse at him. Unfortunately it happens enough in top-level football and filters down all the way to youth games and Sunday league because they see the overpaid babies on TV doing it.

    You might work with someone who is a bit useless at what they do, but you don't get the right to get in his face screaming he's a cunt.
    I’m not screaming abuse at him. Also, The useless person gets talked shit about enough by everyone else that they the eventually get the sack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    This is some meltdown.
    It's not a meltdown and it's not because it was against Spurs. He's just commenting on how this has never happened to any other team and the ref is in fact a stinky poo poo head.

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