I have literally, in all my years, never come across a British person that wants to take over Ireland. It's all forgotten over here. Most of the retards probably don't even know the history.Originally Posted by Giggles
The far right nut jobs are far, far more likely to propose the construction of an 80 ft wall along the western coast of England / Wales, towing Scotland by Tug Boat to County Mayo and stapling it on. Little Englanders want Little England these days. Not empire.
Last edited by Spikey M; 10-04-2022 at 04:22 PM.
"If you remove the English Army tomorrow and hoist the green flag over Dublin Castle., unless you set about the organization of the Socialist Republic your efforts will be in vain. England will still rule you. She would rule you through her capitalists, through her landlords, through her financiers, through the whole array of commercial and individualist institutions she has planted in this country and watered with the tears of our mothers and the blood of our martyrs."
You'd still be blaming us when the Socialist Republic ran out of food too.
The British destruction of Irish culture: successful enough to be complained about, not successful enough to have had any measurable degree of success after hundreds of years.
Nobody is talking about the future. It's a comparison of what you did to what Russia is doing now. But I do believe you're all that short sighted from then '2 world wars and 1 world cup' education you all got.
Not to mention they had made it illegal to practice the language, the religion, land ownership, and any form of education by that time.
I live a couple of hundred yards from a "Mass path" ,as they became known for other uses, where people had to sneak across to have any form of education in a field for fear of having their home burned to the ground if caught for daring to learn anything. That's "educating the ignorant tribes".
There were briefly laws against Catholic education when several Catholic countries represented an existential threat to ours (all repealed two-hundred years ago), but nobody ever banned the language, religion, land ownership, or education generally. You must be short sighted from that 'two famines and no World Cup' education you all got.
It's all starting to add up.
Eactly what I've said all along about what you've been reared on. Complete, though hardly surprising, lies. I suppose they don't teach you how handily you fucked up keeping the whole place either. Actually I'd be entertained to hear the British school version.
This is the way Russians will continue to teach this current invasion too.
There isn't one.
There isn't a British School version. The only event after World War 2 is the Cold War and the only things happening pre World War 1 were the BRITISH Industrial Rovolution and various Royals in funny outfits.
Last edited by Spikey M; 10-04-2022 at 05:55 PM.
There is no British school version (or wasn't when I was at school). Ireland isn't mentioned. I don't think the empire was in general, actually (I only went to GCSE). All the British stuff was Tudors and world wars, maybe a few Dickens-adjacent soppy takes on the Victorian era as well. Then the rest was Tony Blair walking you through 20th century dictators.
1066
Tudors and Stuarts
World War[s]
19th Century 'domestic' and [major] European
That's about all I remember from the history syllabus all the way up to A-Level.
There was also a fair amount of left wing shite. We did about three weeks on the Jarrow March. Luckily I think I got in before the race stuff really kicked off, it's probably all about American civil rights these days.
I remember some stuff on the Industrial Revolution but most of my GCSE education was based around the empires/factions leading into WW2 - namely how Hitler came to power or how the USA dealt with the Depression.
Ah yes, the Great Reform Act, the Corn Laws [good god], Sir Robert Peel and all that.
The Great Depression mostly covered in English Literature via Of Mice and Men.
Which laws 'made it illegal to practice the language, the religion, land ownership, and any form of education'? The only language laws, for example, banned early English colonists from engaging with it and gradually made English the language of law and government. Nobody banned the language ever. Why do you think they did?
Presumably Queen Victoria has bowled into County Kildare and unplugged the internet.
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I remember doing the potato famine in about second year of seconday school. We had to produce some sort of project on it in pairs, I think. We produced a little booklet on it in one of those platic wallet file things. I can't remember much other than my part of it included the cover page and I'd left it to the night before to finish it and back in those pre-broadband days, I just searched some clipart disc I had for potatoes and slapped a picture of a fucking baked potato with butter melting in it on the front because it was all I could find. Teacher must have thought I was taking the piss.
This is the guy Putin was going to install as President.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...le-men-uk-told
Vintage gammon behaviour.
There has been some pretty unseemly shit going on at the border with Poland apparently. Women and Children getting picked up by Human Trafficking gangs.
Human trafficking or just Mahow trying to get home?
I can see why they've been cracking down on/arresting these pro-Russian figures, what with the war and all, but at the same time it does sort of reinforce the idea that a still significant part of the population leans towards Russia, so parading them around seems a bit unwise.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...ffers-26710991
Looks like he's purging some of his top lads.
Feels like Putin is the manager United needs.
I see that boat that the Ukrainians definitely didn't hit with a missile of some sort has now sunk.
Always good when you can fall back on the idea of you accidentally blowing your own stuff up as a highly plausible excuse.
Nah, they blamed the weather.
They're far more Mickey Mouse than they should be, given their size and history.
Soviet submarines were very good when they weren't blowing up, which was more about their attitude to maintenance than the actual technology, but their surface fleet has always been honking. My colleague saw some Russian ships up close in the 2000s when we did naval exchanges. They all had to have ships cats, they were apparently all filthy with people in odd uniforms, and they hung cured meat from the mess ceiling like something out of the nineteenth century.
Russia is not a developed nation in the traditional sense. They spent 80 years focusing on production and promoting factory owners into positions way beyond their expertise.
Italy with eighty million apes attached.
Russian navy in a nutshell.
Apart from the decision to fuel their torpedoes with a substance that explodes on contact with water, cracking choice.
Maintenance problem. They still use them.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-61124291
Genuinely wondering why we (as in the whole world) don't just tell them to stop immediately of we turn their whole country into the world's biggest crater / pile of dirt.
Last edited by Spikey M; 16-04-2022 at 06:21 AM.
What, you mean start World War 3?
Looks like there may be a problem with those “rules of war”. Who’d have thought it?
China have pretty much said they're not getting involved so who would come to their rescue? North Korea? Laos?
I assumed the aversion to getting involved was down to Russia having nukes of their own, not that we were worried about China.
They don't need rescuing. If there's a chance Russia gets obliterated, we get mutually assured destruction. Yev says as much.
What problem is this?
The 'rules' have traditionally been little more than a way of stopping tit-for-tat cuntery escalating into a general state of it. With that in mind, the invaded party has more to gain from following them properly, because you can't possibly out-escalate the people with ready access to all of your people and property (so this sort of psychotic shit shouldn't be encouraged).
The only way we get WW3 is if China get involved. If all the proper countries in the world declared war in Russia they'd shit the bed in about half an hour. They'd have no chance. Even if they used their entire nuclear Arsenal. Which they wouldn't. And judging by the rest of their tech, is it likely to actually work anyway? It's a joke country.
At the risk of being called a Putin shill, Ukraine is not worth flipping a coin on whether Russian nuclear weapons work properly.
What's gone on in Southend this morning to make Spikey this fatalistic, you'd need about five to work and we're all fucked.
Bunch of pussies. Get me in charge.
Russia have threatened escalation a few times and it's an empty threat. They don't have the capability to do anything but hope to scare a few ponces like spikes.
That's the point I was making.
All threats are empty until they aren't. Zelensky was still moaning about American invasion warnings spooking currency markets the week before it happened.
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