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    Did you just pick me because I'm at the top of the diagram?

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    No reason. Do you have a defence? On a scale of 1 to 10 how bad would it be for the town if you died [with 10 being the saint and 1 the imp?].

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    Niko has nominated Boydy.

    Boydy, your defence?

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    Think we're going to have to open voting on Boydy if we want to end the day at 2pm. This is why I gave 1 hour for defences in the last game.

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    Dunno if we are voting here, and I'm willing to change my mind but in the absence of a defence of any sort my vote would be YES.

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    Given that we know absolutely nothing (or if someone does know something, they are being reticent in coming forward), we have a probably 70 or 80% chance of harming ourselves by offing him (depending on how many baddies there are). I would probably hang tight until we have something to go on, but could be persuaded otherwise. Maybe. Probably not.

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    So I’ll consider voting for Boydy open from Nikos post above. In future an hour after a nomination without a defence is what I’ll use before voting starts.

    5 votes total needed to put him on the block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Given that we know absolutely nothing (or if someone does know something, they are being reticent in coming forward), we have a probably 70 or 80% chance of harming ourselves by offing him (depending on how many baddies there are). I would probably hang tight until we have something to go on, but could be persuaded otherwise. Maybe. Probably not.
    See, I thought this, then I went through the various roles again.

    As far as I can see, in terms of the ongoing information accumulation roles there are the following options which may or may not be in play:

    Fortune teller - info unaffected by executions
    Empath - info can be affected if a neighbour were to be executed, as a new living neighbour would then be in play.
    Undertaker - info contingent upon an execution

    So it's not completely cut and dry that not killing people is the best play for the town. Allowing the game to progress with nothing being said or happening is bad for those trying to work out what is going on. I'm not sure why Boydy has made no attempt to defend himself, other than simply not being online, although he did reply to my nomination. It just seems a bit odd. If he had a reason not to die wouldn't it be better to share it? Plus if we don't stick to a strict two deaths per night regimen this will end up petering out again, if it has even petered in yet.

    At least I'm fairly certain he's not the virgin. I'm happy to defend myself if anyone wants to throw me under the headsman's axe.

    I reiterate my YES vote absent a defence.

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    I don't like that he hasn't provided a defence but for now I'll vote no.

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    Some of us have work to do ffs.

    My role can't do anything/get any info yet so it's worth keeping me around.

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    Good enough for me.

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    I'm reluctant to off someone on the basis of not very much. I'm saying no.

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    I think I know what role Boydy is (based on nothing) so I’ma say no.
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    A no from Baz takes the max possible votes for Boydy down to 4, which isn’t enough.

    Boydy is safe today. Do I hear any other nominations before I bring the day to a close?

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    Close the day, I got nothing and no one is hardly talking.

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    Alrighty well as there's not any more nominations coming forward, I'll call the day there.

    It is now night.

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    It is once again morning in Ravenswood Bluff.

    Nobody died in the night.

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    We either have a monk who has done a cracking job or we have a soldier.

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    Or no one is paying attention and Fox has had enough of the inactivity.

    Hopefully someone learned something in the night.

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    Someone needs to sally forth with info. Or maybe they already have?

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    Aye, if there is an investigator they could do with giving us the options.

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    On what mahow has said, if we have a monk, it stands to reason they'd want to stay quiet as they'd be the primary imp target. However, if we have a soldier, you can come forward pretty safely, seeing as you're immune from the imp.

    We could have one or the other, or even both in play.

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    That sounds like something an imp would suggest.
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    Good that no one died, but now we're back at the exact same spot, unless someone comes forward with something.

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    I’ll open nominations here.

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    Is that an end to private conversations then?

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    I’ll allow them to the point of a nomination being cast as you’d all be able to talk anyway if we were playing this properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thommo View Post
    However, if we have a soldier, you can come forward pretty safely, seeing as you're immune from the imp.
    Your logic is flawed my man. The Gimp not knowing who the solidier is (if indeed there is one in play) can only be beneficial for the town. With that in mind....

    I nominate thommo.

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    Hope those extra 2 minutes of private conversations were useful.

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    Manc has nominated Thommo.

    Thommo your defence?

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    This is a bit of a kneejerk reaction to nominate me, but what the hell.

    The reason it'd be good for the soldier to come out and claim the role (if we have one) is because we then have an almost certain guaranteed good guy. This is someone we could ALL go to privately and disclose information to begin putting together who are the evil players. If we have a soldier who has already activated and prevented an imp kill, well he's done his job already and the imp knows that too seeing as no-one died.

    Ah, but what if a demon gambles that there isn't a soldier, and claims the role? Well in that case, we'd have a monk. If we saw no death the next night due to a successful monk defence, we could easily collate our information to out the bluff.

    The one downside would of course be if we had both roles in play, and the monk was the reason we had no first night death. In that case, then yes, the soldier would not have been useful and outing himself would not be as beneficial. But you'd still get the benefits of having a good player to confide in.

    All that aside, I am a good person, townsfolk, and I gain nothing from this. I vote no.

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    5 to kill Thommo.

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    I vote no.

    I don't think the logic is flawed regarding a possible soldier coming out as I don't think we lose anything from it but we do stand to gain a lot.

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    Does the Imp get told if his kill failed due to a soldier defending themselves/a monk protecting the target? Or is it just the public ‘nobody died’ message?

    Yes to killing thommo. Seemed too keen to find out if their was a monk/who’s the soldier, which is an Impy play.
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    The imp gives me their target and gets no information from me.

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    Haha stupid imp.
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    I had no real reason to be suspicious of Thommo, and I doubt he is the imp [again], but his defence has my head spinning a bit.

    I think there are people with information they can bring to the table so I'd be interested to hear from them before voting.

    Would you be prepared to go into any detail as to what flavour of townie you are Thommo?

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    What thommo said made some sense. You might disagree with the soldier coming forward, but I don't see what the imp would be trying to gain from playing that way.

    I vote no kill.

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    I thought Thommo made sense at first. Then I thought Manc made a decent point. But then Thommo's defence made a lot of sense too.

    I don't know.

    I vote no.

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    I was probably over thinking things but I was trying to conceive of a way that the bad team could contrive to have a no kill in the night.

    Could they (or the imp he if we say they act alone) simply not submit one?

    If they couldn't do that, but had a poisoner, could they contrive to poison the imp and then have him come out and claim to be the soldier [who everyone could dutifully spill their guts too]? I considered poisoning Thommo last time for lols but I could see how it might have merit as a strategy.

    This is all highly unlikely, mind, and Manc going hard at Thommo is probably as suspicious as Thommo's slightly mad defence. Also, without a claim of being the solider the whole edifice somewhat collapses - but then that was a pretty rapid day phase. Hmmmm.

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    I think thommo's defence is convincing enough not to vote to kill him at this point. It's a no from me. He also has the tone of someone who may be useful later.

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    The Imp can not refuse to act, but if they wanted they could attack an already dead body in the night.

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    I'm happy with the apparent quorum on not killing Thommo, but it was this that confused me slightly in his defence:

    Ah, but what if a demon gambles that there isn't a soldier, and claims the role? Well in that case, we'd have a monk. If we saw no death the next night due to a successful monk defence, we could easily collate our information to out the bluff.
    Doesn't that logically require the demon to try and kill the same person the monk is protecting? Are we assuming they target the same player again? Seems a stretch. Are we suggesting the poisoner try to deactivate the previous target's power to kill them off on the assumption they are the solider? The demon doesn't have to gamble, as well you know, they could be given Soldier as one of their bluffs, no?

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    In that case the vote cannot reach the 5 required to get Thommo on the block.

    Any other nominations?

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    Not from me. Happy to proceed.
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    No one seems to be up for killing anyone. I'm not sure of the wisdom of the policy, but it seems to be the way the town is going so I would say move on and we can maybe have a longer time to chat among ourselves privately in the next phase.

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    Okay well I'll end the day on the hour if there are no further nominations.

    We should get back to a normal day/night phase after that extension on Sunday.

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    It is now night and the town have scurried off to bed.

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    So have all/any/some key role holders as well it would seem.

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    It was a peaceful night for the most part, but there were some strange noises to be heard for those who were still awake. The sounds of a struggle perhaps.

    The town wakes in the morning to find a trail of blood on the road into town square. They follow the trail and to their horror they find a bloodied and crumpled mess on the floor.

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