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  • Brighton: £50m?? Well in, lads.

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  • Chelsea: Pending results of The Operation

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  • Leeds: Danj-Ames! Danj-Ames! Danj-Ames!

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  • Liverpool: Because FM contract renewals are the best bit!

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  • Manchester United: Ronaldo 1-0 (plus some other nobodies.)

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  • The Villa: Young.

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  • Tottenham: Levy will be delighted to keep Charlie Kane around.

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  • West 'Am: Big Mark Noble's presence is like three new signings.

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  • You didn't list [somebody else] Webly, you cunt.

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    I think it was the word 'brassic' that did for me.

    They probably are skint, relatively speaking. They seem to have at the very least got themselves into a bit of a financial pickle through staggering mismanagement.

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    They really, really are.

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    Lamptey back in the Brighton team.

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    Is that David Prutton former Nottingham Forest David Prutton?

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    Martial has literally been pushed to the sidelines. Literally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Is that David Prutton former Nottingham Forest David Prutton?
    Yep.

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    This United team is still better in every position than West Ham, but what are they trying to do? They look like they've never met each other, so without Fernandes and the other best players they're just going to toil away like shit.

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    Sancho looks a great signing. Definitely solved the issue down the right

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    He's got the between the lines thing on toast.

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    Listen, we know he's no doubt a world class playmaker once you strip away the flakey BLM exterior and will come into his own against the low blocks, reddit said so, I just think it's unfortunate he's playing for a side so shit no opposition will bother employing a low block.

    Klopp beating that Norwich side with the shite he put out and you have this guy struggling against a dire West Ham side with an XI worth £784m according to a German social worker.

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    This is the best United squad in ten years, and he has no idea what to do with it. You shudder to think what he would produce with some of the squads 'LvG' had to work with.

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    I bet Utd still win it 2-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    This United team is still better in every position than West Ham, but what are they trying to do? They look like they've never met each other, so without Fernandes and the other best players they're just going to toil away like shit.
    It's just players doing stuff. So transparently zero plan.

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    27 attempts. Not bad considering we started Martial.

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    That game was just as annoying as the last however many dozen times I've seen that exact performance.

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    Yeah that was awful

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    At the risk of repeating myself, martial is fucking shit and has been for a while. Why he's getting minutes is beyond me.

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    He's never ever getting sacked as well. Fernandes and Ronaldo will coast them to fourth without ever really challenging, buy a midfielder in the summer, and then do it again next year because he hasn't got it in him to alienate half the squad.

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    Ye old United fans getting pissed that they got beat by the little Hammers second string. Go cry With Rio.

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    You're right Bam, they should be delighted with the situation.

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    We've been beaten by worse teams in the last month so don't flatter yourself.

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    How many fans on here are blind to Ole being shit? It seems to be a big problem irl when I chat to people.

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    Yes they should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    We've been worse by worse teams in the last month so don't flatter yourself.
    What do you mean? You've been worse by worse teams???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offshore Toon View Post
    How many fans on here are blind to Ole being shit? It seems to be a big problem irl when I chat to people.
    I think he's done well with building this squad - what he's put together is streets ahead of anything Moyes, LvG or Mourinho managed - and was/am prepared to give him this season to see what he can do with.

    But I suspect we'll ultimately need a better manager to get the potential out of the team.

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    Ole is like having Pulis in charge of United. Unreal how he got that job.

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    It's just such a waste of time. Man Utd's first team shouldn't be used as a coach academy for remedial Norwegians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    I think he's done well with building this squad - what he's put together is streets ahead of anything Moyes, LvG or Mourinho managed - and was/am prepared to give him this season to see what he can do with.

    But I suspect we'll ultimately need a better manager to get the potential out of the team.
    Has he had any significant role in building the squad?

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    It's even more unreal when you consider he smashed the fuck out of it as a caretaker. As soon as he starts taking the bins out, reality strikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Has he had any significant role in building the squad?
    Obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Obviously.
    How? I would bet there is someone in charge of recruitment and its not him.

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    He has signed good players, but Mourinho wasn't allowed Harry Maguire for fifty million, 'LvG' had a full re-build on his hands, etc., so he has hardly done anything amazing there.

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    The recruitment clearly changed when Ole came in as manager. He doesn't look like he's going to be a good enough manager, but IDK why people are so absolutely desperate not to credit him with anything at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    He has signed good players, but Mourinho wasn't allowed Harry Maguire for fifty million, 'LvG' had a full re-build on his hands, etc., so he has hardly done anything amazing there.
    Ole had a full rebuild on his hands as well to be honest. The squad he inherited was absolutely rammed to the rafters with overpaid shite. Given Mourinho had pissed away £30m each on Bailly and Lindelof and then refused to play them, I can understand why they didn't allow him to spend another £50m on another centre back. It was stupid to extend his contract and then not back him, but nobody is pretending Woodward is competent.

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    I think you do have to give him credit for stabilising the whole thing and building a squad in what seems like a more methodical way than his predecessors, but he's total shit on match day.

    He'd be ripe for booting upstairs to a DoF role, so of course after years of fucking around United have just gone and filled that position.

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    Haven't Man Utd spent more than any other Premier League club over the last 10 years?

    Edit: can't find 10 year data, but lol.

    https://www.football365.com/news/tra...n-utd-man-city

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Haven't Man Utd spent more than any other Premier League club over the last 10 years?
    I think they have the highest net spend but not the highest outlay, but I couldn't be sure.

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    City, Chelsea, United according to this.

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    Either way, how many REBUILDS do you want? Investment sure as shit isn't the problem.

    Leicester seem to lol the traditional Big 6 out of the room every time I look at this kind of thing. Why haven't they had their scouting/recruitment team pillaged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Either way, how many REBUILDS do you want? Investment sure as shit isn't the problem.
    The squad building under the previous 3 managers was absolutely appalling. So much money wasted on mediocre players on high wages. And each one basically binned what the previous one had tried to do.

    They had no choice but to invest again when Solksjaer came in, the squad was a mess. But it's absolutely in a position now where we should be challenging and if we don't put up a legitimate title fight this season then Ole should go. I don't think we'll actually win the League or CL without a midfielder or two regardless of the manager though.

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    Well that loss was clearly Donny van de Beeks fault and he should be benched for 3 months.

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    Lingard was the best player on the pitch but was trying too hard to score a 20 yard banger.

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    I want a recount of that. We shouldn't be that high up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    I want a recount of that. We shouldn't be that high up.
    It's because it's Gross rather than Net. I imagine alot of it would look different if it was done with the Net figures.

    Chelsea and Spurs wouldn't be where they are either.

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    That's what transfermarkt reckons for the last 10 years (bearing in mind the questionable quality of their data). Showing top 20 net spend clubs in England.

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    lol at using statistics produced by social workers, bin men and spastics.

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    Hopefully they are at least able to collate data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Ole had a full rebuild on his hands as well to be honest. The squad he inherited was absolutely rammed to the rafters with overpaid shite. Given Mourinho had pissed away £30m each on Bailly and Lindelof and then refused to play them, I can understand why they didn't allow him to spend another £50m on another centre back. It was stupid to extend his contract and then not back him, but nobody is pretending Woodward is competent.
    The squad in 2013 needed a re-build, but they fucked it and hung David Moyes out to dry, and then 'LvG' had to spread his resources very thinly across a number of positions whilst they let big names lead them up the garden path. Mourinho was the first one to get proper backing in the sense that the club was willing to spend good money on a smaller number of players, but he mis-spent most of it, and all the while the club was useless at cutting their losses on what hadn't worked out.

    Ole Gunnar Binman has signed the right players, but he was in a position where he only needed to bring a few good ones in, and the club has also just got better at off-loading people. At the same time, Phil Jones and Juan Mata are still there on new contracts signed under him, and he apparently wants to give Lingard a new one. So yeah, praise his signings; but the club has also got its act together a bit and given him everything he wanted, which is more than previous managers had.

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    Are we seriously saying Ole played a major role in selecting or persuading any of the 14 players he's signed (cost apparently £440m)? This isn't the 90s, man.

    He probably still doesn't know the nationality of about half of them like Amad and Pellistri. Donny is the marker that shows he's certainly not in control but then you have Varane, Ronaldo and Sancho which are the result of a bored agent's midnight sexting antics. Did he really know AWB and Maguire well enough and had enough power to get the board to spend £100m on them within a few months of landing his unqualified ass in the job? The days of managers being responsible for signings are long gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    then 'LvG' had to spread his resources very thinly across a number of positions whilst they let big names lead them up the garden path.
    I mean I think that's just not true. Van Gaal spent £60m on Di Maria, £30m on Herrera, £16m on Rojo, £32m on Shaw, £15m on Darmian, £30m on Depay, £30m+ on Martial, £25m on Schneiderlin, £15m on Schweinsteiger. £14m on Blind. That's all pre-Neymar; he had plenty of big fees for the time.

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