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  • All those shit teams

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  • England

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    The fixtures sneak up quick

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    Slovenia and Slovakia should just merge to avoid confusion.

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    Bring back Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia.

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    I’ve got Denmark in a sweepstake.
    I'm a twit

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    Solid booing from the North Yorkshire crowd.

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    Christ, that was bleak. I'd hate to be a footballer.

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    The infamous Turkey game in Sunderland was probably the last decent England atmosphere. More North East fixtures please.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b0xvtjlJu8

    Rustu looks like an absolute clown on the highlights. More memories ruined.

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    I wonder whether anyone has ever had a better five minutes of football than he did towards the end of that Croatia match.

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    Watching a bit of France v pays de galles with nothing else to do tonight. Really tremendous effort from O'Williams to get sent off for deliberate handball in a friendly, but then Benzema had the penalty (well) saved, the useless twat.

    Why are they playing people like Mbappe in this? Surely you cotton wool them for a week.

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    Coady and Mings terrify me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Watching a bit of France v pays de galles with nothing else to do tonight. Really tremendous effort from O'Williams to get sent off for deliberate handball in a friendly, but then Benzema had the penalty (well) saved, the useless twat.

    Why are they playing people like Mbappe in this? Surely you cotton wool them for a week.
    They might have some covid considerations. That's why Holland's first team are out tonight whilst the Scots have 7 out.
    Last edited by Shindig; 02-06-2021 at 08:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc View Post
    Coady and Mings terrify me.
    Mings is the dirtiest bastard in football. Should have been sent off earlier

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    DCL over the likes of Ings & Bamford really is mind-boggling.

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    I'll be honest, outside of Kane I'm not sure who I could bank on up front for England.

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    Realised whilst watching there was no idiotic "England band" droning on with their shit music. Covid

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    Why was Lingard starting when he hasn’t made the squad?

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    Southgate wanted the cut guys to feature.

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    Such monumentally dumb logic.

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    The final squad submission isn't until just before the tournament starts so if people get injured then they can be swapped in.

    We're also missing the people who played in European finals so might as well give the rest of the players a run out.

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    According to 5Live, he gave the players the option to go home but who leaves an England camp unless they're injured? It make sense to play them, to be honest. It gives you the option to preserve some players.

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    Pre-tournament games are always pointless, and especially so now when everybody is shagged. They might as well just go on a week-long bender together like olden days European Cup final preparation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Really tremendous effort from O'Williams to get sent off for deliberate handball in a friendly
    Shouldn't be overlooked quite how ridiculous a decision that was [VAR's love bunging the French dodgy penalties on super slo-mo handballs *ahem* world cup final], and also how much it shows a problem with the rule if you can point blank it into someone's arm, get a penalty and have them sent off (this was not a Suarez situation).

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    It seemed like the ref was giving it the 'Look, mate, I'm really sorry, but rules are rules...' treatment, when he could have just not sent him off and no one (including his assessors) would have cared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    The Bore-draw Pact.

    The Vladis-Draw collective.

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    Ben White should be going and should be captain.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    It seemed like the ref was giving it the 'Look, mate, I'm really sorry, but rules are rules...' treatment, when he could have just not sent him off and no one (including his assessors) would have cared.
    *Lloris said even the French players were asking the ref not to send him off.

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    Our quest for qualification into the proper stage of WCQ is determined by 4 games in 12 days starting in under 3 hours.

    Quieroz's replacement Marc Wilmots outed himself as a complete terrorist after defeats to Bahrain and Iraq which leave us needing virtually 4 wins. We almost bankrupted our football federation in sacking him and had to replace him with a Croatian nobody who had domestic experience in Iran.

    2 games are give-mes against HK and Cambodia but Iraq and Bahrain will be tricky, particularly after AFC had the brainwave of moving all remaining group games to Bahrain which meant we have lost home advantage in both key games, Bahrain have got double the advantage and the new host country is also now crumbling under COVID and experiencing 40 degree temperatures

    Christ, I'd suck so much dick to have Quieroz back.

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    I was looking at that group earlier, Iran have been properly screwed, though tbh the gulf states always get handed everything on a plate in international sport so no change there.

    However, as long as you draw with Bahrain I think you can go through on GD by beating an already qualified Iraq at the end.

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    As if things couldn't get worse, North Korea's withdrawal has meant AFC yet again doing wonders and deciding the results against bottom-placed teams won't count in deciding the best 2nd place runners up so we have lost our 14-0 Cambodia result (along with our 2nd game against them) so today's HK game requires an emphasis on boosting our GD.

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    Carlos Queiroz is unemployed? United asleep at the wheel once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    As if things couldn't get worse, North Korea's withdrawal has meant AFC yet again doing wonders and deciding the results against bottom-placed teams won't count in deciding the best 2nd place runners up so we have lost our 14-0 Cambodia result (along with our 2nd game against them) so today's HK game requires an emphasis on boosting our GD.
    Read this post before the poster and thought it was John Arne. Had to double take.

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    Don Arne.

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    Alexander-Arnold out of the Euros. I think Southgate should go for Lingard. Having Godfrey or White (much as I like him) there is unlikely to make much difference, whereas Lingard could feasibly win us a game. He's a BIG GAME player and is confident. Plus he's right bantz and would presumably be good for the group.

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    He's a must imo. That touch to put Grealish through was sumptuous.

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    Yeah Lingard should deffo go.
    I'm a twit

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    Jesse Lingard scoring the consolation when the first good team we play batters us.

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    Zero need for a winger. We're well stocked. Ward-Prowse (sorry Ollie).

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    Actually, yes. We could use someone other than Trippier on set-pieces.

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    https://www.theguardian.com/football...-scoring-first

    That graphic showing our record after scoring first in tournaments is one of those where if I'd sat down and thought about it I'd probably have guessed around that percentage, or maybe a bit higher allowing for us usually escaping the groups but just having it laid out like that it's pretty glaring.

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    1-0 up, finish 1-1 is a speciality of ours, or at least it feels like that in my head. Let's see if there are actually some tournament examples.

    Colombia 2018
    Russia 2016
    France 2012
    USA 2010
    Sweden 2002
    Switzerland 1996
    Germany 1996

    Also a menagerie of 1-0 up, lose 2-1:

    Croatia 2018
    Iceland 2016
    France 2004

    That's without even touching on our various crimes at Euro 2000.

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    Yeah, I mean if you asked me "England go 1-0 up, what do they do next?" then the answer is invariably to retreat deeper and deeper into our own half and invite pressure. But given that's since 2000 when some of those other teams have also had long stretches of being average really hammers it home.

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    Here's a damning stat which I have just researched. Since 1982 (when Bryan Robson scored in the first minute vs France and we went on to win 3-1), we have gone 1-0 up in the first five minutes of tournament games six times. We have gone on to lose all six, either outright or on penalties.

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    I wonder if, as Liew mentions in that article, 'scoring too early' really is only a thing in England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Here's a damning stat which I have just researched. Since 1982 (when Bryan Robson scored in the first minute vs France and we went on to win 3-1), we have gone 1-0 up in the first five minutes of tournament games six times. We have gone on to lose all six, either outright or on penalties.
    It's a shot in the arm for those we have here that say any prior evidence of our failings has no bearing on what we do now. Since 1982, we must have had what, six completely different teams?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    I wonder if, as Liew mentions in that article, 'scoring too early' really is only a thing in England.
    It's a proper losers mentality, I know that much. And when you think about it, utterly insane.

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    Perhaps, but anymore insane that expecting 'J-Lingz' to be some sort of situation saving difference maker?

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    Because English sports coaching is all about orthodoxy and following the rules, generally our saving graces in other sports are hired in forriners. That 'gentleman's agreement' bullshit is really costly, we could have got ten years out of Angel Rangel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Perhaps, but anymore insane that expecting 'J-Lingz' to be some sort of situation saving difference maker?
    He’s in shithot form, surely that counts for something?
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    Perhaps, but anymore insane that expecting 'J-Lingz' to be some sort of situation saving difference maker?
    He's got a good record in big games.

    There's a good argument for Ward-Prowse too though.

    Who is/are our first choice free kick and corner taker(s)?

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