Just had my AZ
Yes, I'm high risk/vulnerable.
Yes, but not high risk/vulnerable.
No, I see no reason to get it.
No, I think Magic makes a lot of sense.
Undecided.
Just had my AZ
Did everyone in the vaccination centre stop and applaud their lord as he was injected? /Giggles.
It was awkward but yes that happened and I was also carried out on a throne. There was rapturous applause as we left.
North Kikorea.
If that ironic '/Giggles' is anything like the ironic racism I see thrown around this place he should be worrying about a wider backlash.
Be interesting to know the risk percentage of a young child suffering from PIMSTS compared to suffering a serious side affect from the poison, err vaccine. Both are going to be extremely low I'd imagine.Originally Posted by randomlegend
The poison. Is that what your mate is calling it?
I hear Magic suffers from PMITA
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That's Igor.
RL suffers from PMS.
Nah, I'll probably take it if offered. Especially if it means I can go to places without limitation (which is fucking ridiculous).
Yes, but it's another way of helping out.
I can understand why some people were and are reluctant to test though. The required isolation and missing work - depending on your circumstance - is costly and isn't being properly compensated by the government.
I'm not doing it because I don't believe it's necessary and I won't contribute towards any effort to prevent the move back to normality once the vaccine is rolled out.
I don't want a stick making me retch twice a week. I don't want to have to "show my papers" if I want a pint. I don't want to be told when I can and can't hug my family and friends.
Give me my vaccine and get the fuck out of my face.
Whilst I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment, I sadly do not think the vaccine will mean they'll get the fuck out of your face. Goal posts are constantly being moved by BJ & Co.
And that's exactly why I'm not doing any of it. The vaccine is 80% effective at stopping the spread and 100% effective against severe cases. There is no need for the 1984 bollocks.
With the level of vaccinations we've employed it'd barely be helping out at all. It's the pandemic equivalent of having a BLM themed Facebook profile photo.
What 1984 bollocks have there actually been in England?
We're into month four of an 8pm curfew here in Quebec. Got pushed to 9:30 for a few joyous weeks but they've just set it back in response to a spike, which means it is actually still light now at the minute when you're no longer allowed to leave your house.
I hope by 'Co' you mean scientists. They're absolutely what's driving this nonsense.
I've never actually read 1984, but if 'attempted population control by media manipulated lies' fits, then that. We've had months of it now.
I've never actually read it either
My understanding of it is that it's about a mass surveillance state that wants full control and micromanagement of it's subjects lives.
Well Vaccine Passports and the requirement to give businesses your name, address and phone number just to have a bit of lunch fulfill the first criteria and, as Yev said, deceitful media and ever moving goalposts fulfil the second.
We're obviously not really in "the walls have ears" territory, but this all just feels a bit power grabby to me.
And to illustrate my point, as the vaccine rollout moves from grandparents to parents we get;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-56696907
The difference between the headline and the content is worthy of The Daily Mail.
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I've read it, it's overrated and probably misunderstood. His other stuff is better.
Go and read 1984 ffs. Everyone quotes it and you haven't even read it.
Day 1 of the vaccine, feel pretty groggy and out of it but nothing too bad yet. Missus seems to be wiped out.
Nah. I tried Animal Farm once and it was shit.
The video my mates dad had of it was better.
All the actual questionable shit the government, police, etc. do but yeah "prove you've had a jab before you come into a crowd room for a pint" that's the real '1984' shit.
Lol isn't this what RL claimed would wipe out the child population as we know it.
You can't really include the government and the police under "new powers".
Yes. That is exactly what he said.
They seem to have a raging hard on for curfews in European countries (which Quebec basically is). Never even been suggested here, and we've had much tougher restrictions (in terms of not being able to see family etc) than Europe have had. What is the point of curfews? Surely they just compress the time in which people are out there and mixing, which must surely harm rather than help.
It must be cultural in some way.
Turkey had different Curfews for different age groups, which is fun. Luckily people don't live in mixed age households.
Vaccine passports won't happen beyond the airport. Given how high our vaccine uptake is, there's little point to them.
This. Of all the shit the govt are actually doing, this is the thing that is the issue. Brain dead morans.
It is an issue, yes. Freedom matters. AntiVaxxers are idiots but they're entitled to not take an injection if they so wish and stripping them of their liberties isn't ok in a free society.
Interesting precedent you guys are happy to set though.
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But it's a leap Spikes to say we will need covid passports (I don't think that's a workable solution). If you are being denied entry to private venues due to it then it's a decision made by the business directly. You need vaccines for many different things so it's not that unusual/unreasonable.
I (obviously) don't think we need them, but the Government are atleast floating the idea of us having them. Even if it's not enforced, they're still giving private businesses the right to discriminate based on a belief system. And for what reason? The unvaccinated are not a risk to the vaccinated.
If private companies discriminate, they probably will end up in court for abuse of human rights.
Spikerino is bang on.
And whilst vaccines are clearly not unsual in itself, the 'vaccine passport' is a dangerous precedent to set moving forwards.
Yes, they are part of the 'Co'. But I think they are mostly (and massively) risk aversed which is driving their approach.
How? The Government have said they can (or will be able to).
By going to court. Human rights supersedes what the govt says if it breaches HR law.
It would be the Government in hot water over it rather than the businesses, right? (Not that I'd be opposed to seeing the likes of Tim Martin getting dragged too).
If this is the game you'd like to play then presumably I can infer you're happy with any other ways freedoms might be infringed upon so long as we're allowed to get pints without question?
I thought it was fairly clear my post wasn't "vaccine passports are fine" but "why is it you only care about 'Big Brother' now?"
I am opposed to any freedoms being opposed so I'm not sure where you're getting that.
You're saying this as if I'm normally supportive of our government? I haven't liked a single government we've had since I turned old enough to vote. Including the only one I (sort of) won, when Clegg got in and immediately chucked all of his promises in the river.
I'm not sure what tone you've been reading my posts in over the years, but if you've come to the conclusion that I'm cool with the steady erosion of freedom then you've got me massively wrong.
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I'm not, I was intentionally misreading your post because I could only assume that's what you'd done with mine.
What's wrong with vaccine passports? If you're enough of a turd that you won't go get a vaccine after 14 months of this bullshit, you should be barred from having fun
Totally unrelated to this thread but this just reminded me of a thing I saw recently that apparently if you're under a certain age in the UK (I'm gonna say mid-30s ish?) and vote how people of your age group statistically voted then you've basically never voted for a party that won an election but if you move that age bracket up however many years you've basically voted for the winner most times for decades.
No idea if that's true but it tallies for a lot of people I know for the younger group I'd say.
I've won every national vote I've ever voted in.
Tory-haters need not fear, give it another 5-10 years and the housing situation will basically guarantee Labour governments for decades (unless or until something changes quite radically in the housing supply). Either outcome to the Scottish situation (independence, or the movement fizzling out) will also help Labour.
Renting cohorts will never, ever, ever vote Conservative.
Did you hear about these BLM riots? Or that gay couple who didn't get the cake design they wanted?
It seems like a remote possibility and even if it was to come in, it would only be for a limited period and to select yuppie events that are easy to avoid so it's not a big issue but all these anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorists like Spikey seem to be clinging on to it to fuel some argument no one is interested in having.
I just had a look at the previous elections and I was just old enough to vote for Blair in 2005... but I didn't give a fuck about politics back then, so I didn't. Still, atleast there's no Iraqi blood on my hands
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