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    The Guardian's best 100 footballers in the world

    https://www.theguardian.com/football...the-world-2020

    (If your Boxing Day is lacking suspense and you want to read from the 100th ranked player, shut your eyes and scroll down for a few seconds.)

    The votes are meant to be based on 2020. Here's a full list of the judges: https://www.theguardian.com/football...the-world-2020

    Thoughts on the rankings?

    Who would be in your top 5/10/whatever?

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    They do a top five and then just throw names in randomly.

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    Judge 28 definitely has the Horst Wessel song as their ringtone. Their votes:

    1 Lewandowski
    2 Haaland
    3 Gnabry
    4 Müller
    5 Davies
    6 Benzema
    7 Neuer
    8 Kimmich

    They didn't have Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Mbappe, De Bruyne or Van Dijk in their top 40.
    Last edited by Jimmy Floyd; 26-12-2020 at 02:49 PM.

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    1. Messi/Ronaldo
    2. Virgil van Dijk

    And then nobody cares after that. They should have a points system like the Golden Boot to account for the German and French leagues being shit.

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    Lukaku above Kane.

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    1. Lewandowski
    2. Van Dijk
    3. Kane

    That’s the truth

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    Should've sneaked Javier Saviola in there for laughs. Also, I completely forget he made it to World Cup 2006.

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    They've somehow hit the 3 key twice when putting in Hendo's ranking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    They've somehow hit the 3 key twice when putting in Hendo's ranking.
    Instead of 3 times, yeah.

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    Have we done a Ronaldo vs Messi poll on here?
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    Have we done a Ronaldo vs Messi poll on here?
    As in which one's gay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dquincy View Post
    As in which one's gay?
    Finally someone asking the important questions this Christmas.

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    Mane ahead of Salah

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    A 35 year old Jesus Navas chilling in 86th.

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    Ronaldo, Messi, and based on what I’ve seen in the other thread, Bruno Fernandez.

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    Loving the title:

    The 100 best male footballers in the world 2020
    Patronising cunts.

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    Taylor Hinds is my number 1.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Loving the title:


    Patronising cunts.
    Identity Politics Twitter would work itself into a fit otherwise, unfortunately.

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    Now they're just asking to do a female counterpart. And if it's less than 100 names, they'll be raked over the coals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Now they're just asking to do a female counterpart. And if it's less than 100 names, they'll be raked over the coals.
    https://www.theguardian.com/football...droidApp_Other

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    We should all demand they do a combined one for maximum lols.

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    I've heard of 15 of the women's 100, and 99 of the men's 100 (sorry Luis Alberto). Given I spent about 74% of my life poring over sports media, whoever is promoting the women's game hasn't done a great job with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    We should all demand they do a combined one for maximum lols.
    Wouldn’t they have to fill in 101-9999 of the men’s first?

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    They did a combined one last year didn't they? This seems a good compromise.

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    I'm a twit

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    Legitimately thought number 1 was called Penile Harder at first glance.

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    Zlatan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Loving the title:



    Patronising cunts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Luca View Post
    Identity Politics Twitter would work itself into a fit otherwise, unfortunately.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Now they're just asking to do a female counterpart. And if it's less than 100 names, they'll be raked over the coals.
    Fucking weirdos you three.

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    If anything, the women are probably better than the men.

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    They must be.

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    Definitely better at driving in for training.

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    I thought sexism was largely minor (Outside of some low level get back in the kitchen make me a sandwich jibes) but the amount of people who get flustered by other people just acknowledging that women’s football exists has made me think otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    I thought sexism was largely nonsense (Outside of some low level get back in the kitchen make me a sandwich jibes) but the amount of people who get flustered by other people just acknowledging that women’s football exists has made me think otherwise.
    Nobody minds it existing, but because of it’s massively inferior quality it needs to know its place.

    It’s all just pandering from journalists to a market they believe is there, but most women don’t give a shit about womens soccer either.

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    It’s not sexism they just need to know their place and realise nobody likes them .

    Someone’s going to bring up the goalkeepers in a minute and I’m just going to post the ongoing compilation of 300 grand a week David De Gea cock ups.

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    Yes that’s what I said. You really are some cunting sap, it’s like every bad element of woke twitter rolled into one.
    Last edited by Giggles; 27-12-2020 at 12:13 PM.

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    I've never come across anyone who slags off women's football more than one of the girl's (female) teaching mates who is an ex-semiprofessional.

    She is also a lesbian to complete the stereotype.

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    Everyone knows that Messi is strictly better at kicking a ball than Maroszán. It's top tier fragility to be getting riled at the latter receiving recognition. They even made it a separate list so you can ignore it entirely.

    If the purpose of sport in society is to inspire young people, I don't know why you'd be against giving girls something to aspire to.

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    There is a balance to be struck - you want to promote it (and women's sport in general) so that more girls take up the game, but those who pretend it's a direct equivalent to men's football and try to present it as that do more harm than good. Cricket (and probably rugby) do a good job of selling it as a related, but somewhat different sport. So of course does tennis and to a lesser extent, golf.

    There are those who prefer respective women's versions for aesthetic reasons (not those ones) - i.e. often it's more a game of precision and skill due to the lack of physical power.

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    That's fair. For starters they need to make the goals smaller.

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    What actually is people's argument against making the goals smaller for women?

    I suppose you can argue that although the keepers are shorter the power of the shots they face is equivalently less so it balances out? But then you could make that same argument for kids football and nobody is expecting 11 year olds to play in full size goals.

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    If you make the goals/pitches smaller then it's a different game, and if it's a different game then it can't hitch itself to men's football coverage, money, institutional weight... Cricket, rugby etc. don't have this to worry about because they barely get any coverage (relatively speaking) to begin with, and what coverage they do get can easily accommodate slightly different lady versions.

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    I don't see how it's a 'different game'. Making the pitch and goals proportionally smaller makes it closer to being the same game in my mind.

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    Possibly if you get your measuring tape out, but it would look ridiculous in any stadium not set up for it (I hereby trademark 'dog track' for any measures used to take five yards off each edge of the pitch).

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    Cricket brings the boundaries in, golf moves the tees up, on the same grounds/courses, no one minds.

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    I don’t know but I’m going to presume that women in 2020 are bigger than men in the 1890s.

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    Yeah, goalkeeping is a skill you can learn. It's all positioning and reflexes. Size of the goals shouldn't matter. It's the person between the sticks.

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    Cricket has a load of different versions, so they're selling it anyway (as for hobbies...). Imagine building up some big ladies' football game and then when you turn it on they're playing on a kiddies' pitch with tiny pink goals.

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    Don't be crazy. Garden Soccer can't exist in this socially distanced climate.

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    Mike and 'The Reid' have probably been playing whilst Baz cowers inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Yeah, goalkeeping is a skill you can learn. It's all positioning and reflexes. Size of the goals shouldn't matter. It's the person between the sticks.
    Positioning and reflexes aren't worth much if you're smaller and have a less powerful leap. Goalkeeping is the position in women's football that is furthest behind men's. It's just too easy to lob, or put it in the top corner that's basically unreachable.

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