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  • West Ham - Currently 5th

    13 50.00%
  • Southampton - Currently 6th

    0 0%
  • Manchester United - Currently 9th

    1 3.85%
  • Manchester City - Currently 11th

    7 26.92%
  • Arsenal - Currently 14th

    1 3.85%
  • Sheffield United - Currently 20th

    4 15.38%
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Thread: December football: Who's most out of place?

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    All the injuries

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    Everyone currently between 2nd and 9th have so many weaknesses that it's basically impossible for Liverpool not to win it. Maybe City I suppose but they're not great either.

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    Carlitos

    Liverpool should and will piss it. Battle for 2nd is going to be relatively interesting.

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    You're all talking bollocks. It's wide open.

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    I agree. Nobody's running away with it and every club is one Covid cluster away from being borked for a few weeks.

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    It's a shame that United and Chelsea supporters have been that badly neutered they don't fancy their chances against a Liverpool team who have lost 7-2 and can draw at home to West Brom. We've just spent 3 years in the Championship and I feel more optimistic ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dquincy View Post
    You're all talking bollocks. It's wide open.
    For 2nd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellberg View Post
    It's a shame that United and Chelsea supporters have been that badly neutered they don't fancy their chances against a Liverpool team who have lost 7-2 and can draw at home to West Brom. We've just spent 3 years in the Championship and I feel more optimistic ffs.
    Once you've had more than 25 minutes in a top six fight this side of George W. Bush's presidency, you'll remember that they are much more about the sum of your average days rather than your best or worst days, and Liverpool's average days are a lot better than anyone else's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Once you've had more than 25 minutes in a top six fight this side of George W. Bush's presidency, you'll remember that they are much more about the sum of your average days rather than your best or worst days, and Liverpool's average days are a lot better than anyone else's.
    That's the sort of winning mentality required to turn it around.

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    Yep. And experience is incredibly important on how to win these things. You'd probably edge Leicester's chances over Chelsea and United at this point who haven't got anyone there who knows what it takes to win it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellberg View Post
    That's the sort of winning mentality required to turn it around.
    Since (perhaps unwisely) I have not yet been added to Chelsea's backroom staff, my perspective is that of a fan. I'm sure these teams all believe they are going to win every game, but they are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    I take that as first 5 mins now, compared to pre-COVID.

    Perhaps the crowd being there switches you on more?
    And another one. This is getting ludicrous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Since (perhaps unwisely) I have not yet been added to Chelsea's backroom staff, my perspective is that of a fan. I'm sure these teams all believe they are going to win every game, but they are wrong.
    Essentially declaring them champions when they're three points clear (probably two) with 15 games gone is mental. This is no procession. And considering your form for predictions on the previous page I'd probably not deliver it as fact either.

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    Everyone drew except us. I’m convinced by the Mellin self help book. Arsenal to win the league.

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    Chelsea top on xPTS. Someone make it make sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Chelsea top on xPTS. Someone make it make sense
    We are a 'good' team but as efficient as using Yevrah's hot tub to boil your pasta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    Everyone drew except us. I’m convinced by the Mellin self help book. Arsenal to win the league.
    I'm not that optimistic mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mellberg View Post
    I'm not that optimistic mate.
    We’re only... *looks at the table for the first time this year*... 18 points off top. I’m a believer.

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    City will win it, I think. 6 goals conceded in 12 since that game they granted Jamie Vardy a load of penalties.

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    You were dying on that hill last season mate

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    Who is this dork on Match of the Day? Know your audience nonce.

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    Incredible.

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    They all do that, it's not some Kane wankfest. I was watching the Rangers game yesterday and the guy described a Hibs dive as an 'embellished going-to-ground'.

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    Is it time for the stutter penalty to go into the dustbin of history? Just run up and fucking smash it.

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    Everton game apparently off because of City being riddled with covid.

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    Yeah, I bet they are.

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    Ederson, Cancello, Torres and one other with Covid. Wonder if its backroom staff as well, 4 out for a team with that City squad doesn't seem that much of a hindrance.

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    It is interesting in the 5-subs rule debate though, from the perspective of the 'we started the season with a set of rules and it would be unfair to change them' brigade.

    Weren't the agreed rules at the start of the season that unless you didn't actually have 14 available players then you would be expected to fulfill your fixtures? That seems to have changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    Is it time for the stutter penalty to go into the dustbin of history? Just run up and fucking smash it.
    Yes. It's annoying that all of the takers of United's many penalties have cunt run-ups.

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    Was surprised to see United have only had 5 pens in the league this season. Have they had a fuckton in cups or did they just get loads last season? Leicester 5 clear of the field with 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    It is interesting in the 5-subs rule debate though, from the perspective of the 'we started the season with a set of rules and it would be unfair to change them' brigade.

    Weren't the agreed rules at the start of the season that unless you didn't actually have 14 available players then you would be expected to fulfill your fixtures? That seems to have changed.
    Seems now its more about not passing the outbreak onto another team.

    Neville tweeting that the next two games for City will be called off as well.

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    Surely City have to forfeit the League Cup game then...

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    Things changed once it happened to a couple of famous clubs (plus Pep would detonate, he probably licked them all to get a winter break).

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    There is some big club proofing where they only give byes in early rounds.

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    Objectively, They should just put Arsenal back in.

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    If you two-footed one of your own team mates, would it still be violent conduct? Asking for Edouard Mendy after he tried to rugby tackle Pulisic just then.

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    I think only actual fighting (a la David Batty) would get you in trouble.

    Goalies are always almost murdering their own team mates (how do you spell that properly?).

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    Tammy would have scored a brace from that half-chance.

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    I was about to say that the difference between having Giroud and Abraham up front is night and day, but maybe I should rephrase that.

    This game had a weird start when Grealish dived in his own half, didn't get the free kick and had one of the biggest sweary meltdowns I've ever seen for a non-consequential refereeing decision at about 00:42 on the clock - ref has done great so far with just not giving anything when players on both teams chuck themselves down for no reason.

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    Mason and CHO still holding the fort ensuring Chelsea don't make too much progress

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    It is quite comical that Frank hates Giroud but he is still a solid 20 goal a season striker, most teams outside of City and Liverpool could use him. Not just his goals but his assist play.

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    Frank doesn't hate Giroud, he just loves Tammy.

    He is right to love Mount, probably our best player this season on a consistent basis. End product in terms of goals etc can improve, but it will - everything else has.

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    People slagged him off for years and then 6 months at Chelsea everyone just started repeating my talking points. I talk a lot of shit but my arsenal opinions on players are always correct.

    Also how Is Hudson Odoi on 200 grand a week and no one ever mentions it. I think he’ll go on to be okay but some clubs contracts just don’t get brought up while I have to be reminded Mezut Ozil exists every 8 minutes.

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    It’s no surprise they look better with Hudson Odoi playing. He should play every game when Ziyech is out injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    People slagged him off for years and then 6 months at Chelsea everyone just started repeating my talking points. I talk a lot of shit but my arsenal opinions on players are always correct.

    Also how Is Hudson Odoi on 200 grand a week and no one ever mentions it. I think he’ll go on to be okay but some clubs contracts just don’t get brought up while I have to be reminded Mezut Ozil exists every 8 minutes.
    I still haven't got over Dominic Solanke going on strike because he wanted £50,000 a week at Chelsea, if you start me on this fancy dan trying to force a move to Bayern Munich when he'd played about six games for us I might cry. I can definitely see him having forced Gnabry and Douglas Costa out of the side by now.

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    That ball in

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    Christensen

    He’s useless

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    Villa really need to be put back in their box.

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    Really not understanding what Beglin is talking about with the VAR/Grealish thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Really not understanding what Beglin is talking about with the VAR/Grealish thing.
    Didn't look like a foul to me and I have no idea how/why Christensen was so badly hurt for it that he had to stay down for the next 10 years. Very soft lad, is Christensen.

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