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    Aliou Traore on loan to French league 2 side SM Caen.

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    Is that Everton as in Everton Soares or whatever he was called, the Brazil guy? Ł18m seems very good value for him.

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    He came outta nowhere to do a few good dribbles in Copa America but my mum could do that for Brazil and he's got a 1 in 3 scoring rate in the Tranny Favela League. Porto are signing Iranian international Taremi so good luck seeing out the remainder of your career in Portugal with no honours.

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    Joe Hart to Tottenham came out of left field. Was half expecting him to retire.

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    Quota signing surely?

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    Has to be. Likely going to be 3rd choice and Vorm is leaving.

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    Don't you fucking lol at the pre-eminent transfer workings in global sport, you little runt. Take notes.

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    I mean 30m for a 29 year old is probably a lot, right?

    Which isn't to say I wouldn't want Utd to pounce on it bc it's not my money but sheesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruhnaldo View Post
    I mean 30m for a 29 year old is probably a lot, right?

    Which isn't to say I wouldn't want Utd to pounce on it bc it's not my money but sheesh.
    30m is pocket change, it’s not 2002.

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    For his 29-30 year it's a lot when they could otherwise get his 30-33 years on a free next summer.

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    Imagine being a member of the incredibly unpopular Barcelona board, you get the job because the previous guy was so corrupt in buying Neymar he's the one football director to serve a jail sentence in 30 years, you then lose Neymar and spend years not only failing but failing in ever more spectacular and embarrassing ways.

    You hit rock bottom. 8 fucking 2. The fans are demanding your resignation, the players are demanding your resignation, the press are demanding your resignation. You refuse to cave. You have a choice, appoint Ronald Koeman who has at best achieved par or Pochettino, a man who speaks Catalan and got to a CL final 2 years ago.

    You appoint Koeman because the other guy managed Espanyol and the fans wouldn't like that.

    Mental.

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    Is Ronald Koeman a binman? There are arguments for and against.

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    I would say not binman, just crap manager.

    Although in the Barcelona context he could veer towards binman. Quite why he'd take the job (other than the obvious) when it seems to be some temporary holding job until Xavi (actual binman) comes in next summer is anyone's guess. Why would he jack Holland for that? There will be other opportunities to manage Barcelona in the next 5 years or so.

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    Does Koeman KNOW THE CLUB / buy the ideology enough to be a binman?

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    Yeah, knows the club and played under Cruyff, so there's definitely some binman potential.

    But has managed variously elsewhere in places he lacks binman pedigree, so I'd put him more in the Martinez managerial bracket. More a chancer than a binman.

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    Did he fuck up at Southampton or just leave to go to Everton?

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    I thought he did reasonably well at Southampton and moved to Everton as a career step, arf. May be way out with that though.

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    This is like when it became big to hate 'hipsters' and the term became so broad that 'hipster' meant anyone under 35.

    A top, top binman imo should have little to no experience as a number 1 and be promoted from within.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I thought he did reasonably well at Southampton and moved to Everton as a career step, arf. May be way out with that though.
    He achieved par. They had a good team and plenty of money.

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    Yeah, I've got some ideas of what the commandments of a binman should be.

    - No or minimal experience at any other managerial role.
    - 'Knows the club'
    - Does not handle the press especially well.
    - Struggles to do anything at any other club.
    - Their binman role needs to be at a club of considerable stature.

    There should be more to it, really. I'm not even sure about the press bit.

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    Trophyless should also be part of the criteria

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    Surely you can only be a binman at your first club then. Anything else you're just a shit manager with crummy experience.

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    On the binman theme and probably the best Guardian football article for a while:

    https://www.theguardian.com/football...intage-manager

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    Actually, Ole kind of throws the criteria up in smoke. I forget he managed at Molde for so long.

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    He’s a bin man but he’s in the bin rather than collecting it.

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    Ole Gunnar Binman got the job because Ed Woodward drew up a list of club legends and went down it crossing everybody out who makes a living criticising Ed Woodward.

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    And Carrick wasn't ready yet. Next in line, lads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Yeah, I've got some ideas of what the commandments of a binman should be.

    - Their binman role needs to be at a club of considerable stature.
    This can't be overemphasised enough, imo.

    Name checking Roberto Martinez got me to thinking about his career and its binman origins (Swansea and Wigan) but then you can't really extend the definition to anyone who takes over the running of a small club with little to no experience as that is almost everyone who takes that sort of job, even encompassing lord of all things proper managery Herr Klopp.

    Now, drawing the cut-off point for appropriate club size/stature could be a whole new can of worms.

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    Above Liverpool for sure.

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    You can also shake off the binman tag once your successful at the club. Di Matteo needs a statue.

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    di Matteo is king of the bin tho surely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    Above Liverpool for sure.
    I reckon some sort of inbuilt sense of entitlement to succeed is needed, so maybe they'd srape in.

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    In a similar although unrelated vein I see City are erecting a statue to David Silva (and maybe Kompany too). Not too sure about that. Maybe it's just Silva's style, and great player/servant he may have been, but I doubt many people will be waxing lyrical about him in 30 years time in the way people still remember the likes of Summerbee and Bell, for example.

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    Dalglish (21st century) was a classic binman.

    Newcastle (Shearer) and West Ham (Brooking) have both had them. Could Southampton have one? Probably not.

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    I think the appointment needs to have some sort of semblance of longevity to it, which would probably preclude Shearer and Brooking. Desperation is not the same as expectation.

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    Does Tony Parkes get in through sheer perseverance, a caretaker binman across 20 odd years. He should have got a chicken burger named after him at least.

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    Maybe by dint of probably actually collecting the bins from Ewood Park at some point or other.

    I went to his summer football school things as a kid. No idea who he was or if he even attended them, I would guess not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    I went to his summer football school things as a kid. No idea who he was or if he even attended them, I would guess not.
    Neither does he these days.

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    Is that for reasons of not incriminating himself?

    No noncing to my knowledge though, we kept that local.

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    No he has alzheimers.

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    I think we've lost sight of binman if we start making Koeman one. I feel there could be a schism in the binman religion.

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    Going through the niko/disco posts


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    Quote Originally Posted by phonics View Post
    He achieved par. They had a good team and plenty of money.
    Par? Are you bonkers? He was our best manager of recent times.

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    Yeah, Koeman's more a journeyman. Binmen tend to get found out at some point and stop.

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    Caretakers can't be binmen either.

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    My ignorance of Tony Parkes obviously continues to this very day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Par? Are you bonkers? He was our best manager of recent times.



    Huge amount of those players ended up playing CL football. He had a great team and didn't even get you out the qualifying rounds in Europe.

    I didn't say he was bad. I said he achieved par.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Sherwood

    I forgot he managed Villa. And that image of him managing them doesn't look like him.

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    So good.

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