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    The Artist Formerly Known as Taz
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    Classic vaxxer logic, you corner them with facts and they lash out. Possibly an ADR of itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7om View Post

    Edit: lol at “fast tracked” as well. Clueless.
    Are you actually saying it wasn't fast tracked? I don't give a shit that it was as we bloody needed it, but that's setting my bullshit detector running wild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Desperate attempt not to look like a pearl clutching nonce.
    While I obviously lean more towards one set of arguments than the other, I'm not on either 'side' of this and am happy to take on bullshit from either camp. It's sad that it's yet another thing that's come to sides.

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    You're insinuating that an infection was caused by the vaccine, rather than bacteria simply getting into an open wound. Never mention logic again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Are you actually saying it wasn't fast tracked? I don't give a shit that it was as we bloody needed it, but that's setting my bullshit detector running wild.
    It wasn't fast tracked. Stages that usually run sequentially were able to be run in parallel. It's always possible but this was made a priority with the nature of the virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    It wasn't fast tracked. Stages that usually run sequentially were able to be run in parallel. It's always possible but this was made a priority with the nature of the virus.
    That's literally the definition of fast tracking. Fuck me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    That's literally the definition of fast tracking. Fuck me.
    Is it? To me it can mean "rushed" or "prioritised". I would say it fits the second definition. Not the first. Taz means the first.

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    Nothing was sped up. Things running in parallel doesn't mean it didn't run the same course of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Is it? To me it can mean "rushed" or "prioritised". I would say it fits the second definition. Not the first. Taz means the first.
    See, what's happened here is one side has heard the words 'fast tracked' and stuck 'and unsafe' on the end of it and the other side has decided that in order to guard against accusations of unsafe or corners cut being banded around they'll deny it was fast tracked in the first place.

    Utterly fucking tragic from all concerned and very much reminds me of the 'torture, it doesn't work' nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Nothing was sped up. Things running in parallel doesn't mean it didn't run the same course of time.
    The whole process was sped up. Hence how I have three shots of delicious vaccine in my arm within a year.

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    The process run in parallel and not sequentially. It could happen for any vaccine with the right conditions (like money).

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    Cheers Yev for poking these cretins for some further explanation of their retardedness, I hope you can now clearly see what this has done to people's brains

    Spikey, lad, try and stick to the words rather than the perceived intent behind them.

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    Tell us more about the 5 million foreign objects.

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    It was covered comprehensively above. Please seek it out once you've untied yourself from the web of semantics you've spun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    The process run in parallel and not sequentially. It could happen for any vaccine with the right conditions (like money).
    Again, literally the definition of fast tracked.



    You seem to be reading 'corners cut' whenever you see fast tracked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Cheers Yev for poking these cretins for some further explanation of their retardedness, I hope you can now clearly see what this has done to people's brains

    Spikey, lad, try and stick to the words rather than the perceived intent behind them.
    Feel free to explain your intent if I've got it wrong.

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    You man are gonna be in a right muddle when your fast track passport arrives without pages missing.

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    I mean, it was fast tracked. Saying 'no it wasn't it was just done faster' is of the highest order. That is literally what the FDA calls it: https://www.fda.gov/patients/fast-tr...iew/fast-track

    That it was fast tracked does not mean it is dangerous, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Cheers Yev for poking these cretins for some further explanation of their retardedness, I hope you can now clearly see what this has done to people's brains

    Spikey, lad, try and stick to the words rather than the perceived intent behind them.
    You don't get off easily either as it looked to me and all the world you were using fast tracked as a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Again, literally the definition of fast tracked.



    You seem to be reading 'corners cut' whenever you see fast tracked.
    Because that's what he meant. It's all in the context of what's being said and, sadly, who is saying it.

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    Great use of 'sadly' there, Spikey. Chris Whitty would be proud.

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    Next slide please.

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    I still want to know more about them foreign substances. If they were born and bred in the UK substances, would that be ok?

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    Yeah - I think that's the important distinction. It was able to complete all stages without reducing safety but quicker due to money, volunteers and urgency.

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    I was in a pub last night that had copies of this on the bar. I had a flick through, jokingly asked the barman who brought them in, and within a minute he was calling me a Nazi for saying any newspaper that carries adverts for stuff like this isn't a serious one.

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    Taz, mate, they got you covered:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Because that's what he meant. It's all in the context of what's being said and, sadly, who is saying it.
    In which case the response should have been "it was fast tracked, so what?" rather than the absolute abortion that followed. Just giving anti-vax morons free ammo with this sort of approach. "They're even lying about it being fast tracked".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    You don't get off easily either as it looked to me and all the world you were using fast tracked as a bad thing.
    That's because it's natural to think it and proves the original point that any sort of new health issue will invariably be linked to it. But instead of understanding and accepting this, these filthy vaxxed folk want to jump on the merest hint of it in their desperate attempt to fight the great war.

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    It was fast-tracked. That fact is irrelevant to whether it's safe or not (it is).

    Waving around 2.9m ADRs and a 0.1% reported side effect rate as though it's something to shit yourself over is fucking hilarious. You get higher reported rates than that in a placebo trial.

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    Pepe, are these racially tinged comments? Lad, you got yourself a gammon wife and an SUV, calm your passion.

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    Just trying to protect you from the 5g that must be irradiating from all these vaccinated folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I was in a pub last night that had copies of this on the bar. I had a flick through, jokingly asked the barman who brought them in, and within a minute he was calling me a Nazi for saying any newspaper that carries adverts for stuff like this isn't a serious one.
    Issue 13 illustrates my point above further. While I'm not taking the percentage they quote on face value, you're giving nut jobs more ammo when you start mandating that children need a vaccine for a disease that clearly has a miniscule chance of harming them and that they can spread anyway, even when they've been jabbed.

    As Jimmy says, heads have gone. There is so little balance anywhere with this anymore. It was somehow so much more enjoyable when bodies were piling up in Italy and there was genuine reason to be scared of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    That's because it's natural to think it and proves the original point that any sort of new health issue will invariably be linked to it. But instead of understanding and accepting this, these filthy vaxxed folk want to jump on the merest hint of it in their desperate attempt to fight the great war.
    I've said this before and I'll say it again, you're clearly vulnerable to this thing, so get a bloody vaccine. If it's still around when you're older, it's going to kill you.

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    The smaller the threat the larger the panic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I've said this before and I'll say it again, you're clearly vulnerable to this thing, so get a bloody vaccine. If it's still around when you're older, it's going to kill you.
    You were spot on about whole affair and I reckon you're spot on about my future health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    You were spot on about whole affair and I reckon you're spot on about my future health.

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    Kikó why are you so busy posting on here instead of getting tested hourly.

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    I only need to get tested so I can see my new baby buddy.

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    Has it arrived yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Pepe, are these racially tinged comments? Lad, you got yourself a gammon wife and an SUV, calm your passion.
    I drive a stupid little Suzuki Swift sport, AKSHUALLY.

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    I wish they sold the Suzuki Swift in the US, nice car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    See, what's happened here is one side has heard the words 'fast tracked' and stuck 'and unsafe' on the end of it and the other side has decided that in order to guard against accusations of unsafe or corners cut being banded around they'll deny it was fast tracked in the first place.

    Utterly fucking tragic from all concerned and very much reminds me of the 'torture, it doesn't work' nonsense.
    Nailed it, Yev. Kudos.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    The whole process was sped up. Hence how I have three shots of delicious vaccine in my arm within a year.
    For some reason, I thought you said you weren't bothering with the booster. Am I wrong or did you change your mind?

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    It's great fun to drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Has it arrived yet?
    Yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dquincy View Post

    For some reason, I thought you said you weren't bothering with the booster. Am I wrong or did you change your mind?
    Not wrong. I'm still not convinced I really needed one, but I was planning on doing some rutting between Christmas and New Year and I'll need one to go on holiday abroad in due course, so figured I may as well do it now.

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    And congrats Kik's!

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    Cheers! Few days in the hospital then we will be home. Plenty of time to argue between the baby napping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    I only need to get tested so I can see my new baby buddy.
    I know. I'm sure it's yours.

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    Is it your first Kiko?

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