On the flipside, Khan's declared a major incident and I suspect London might be a bit fucked due to their piss poor vaccination rates.
On the flipside, Khan's declared a major incident and I suspect London might be a bit fucked due to their piss poor vaccination rates.
Scrap that, some dickhead on the news just said it was 60% vaccinated in London, but this reckons it's 75%, so as you were.
https://data.london.gov.uk/dataset/c...ovid-19--cases
Oooh, graphs. Doesn't look as if the 60+ crew are taking off as badly. Population density's always going to skew London's rate.
I will not be following any further restrictions so lockdown all you like.
In more mental moves from World leaders I see France have banned us again.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59708107
If you're gonna implement a travel ban it'd probably be a better idea to do it before your country is already riddled with Omicron.
I'm not sure what right looks like in a pandemic. My point was more it's not like the UK are an outlier with their actions, most governments across the globe have been pulling different levers to try and reduce cases and deaths.Originally Posted by Yevrah
"Patients in hospital rising in many areas."
I mean, London's blown up but the rest of the country looks pretty stable from the graphs.
I took me three reads to figure that sentence out.Admissions for Covid are also going up, just not as fast it seems as admissions with Covid.
We would all support a London lockdown, right? London, Scotland and Wales ideally.
Most political leaders are short-termist/opinion poll driven wankers who are solely driven by preservation of their own power/authority [and only enact policy to that effect]? Not sure a principled decision has been taken this millennia.
Why are the Dutch imposing a strict lockdown after their wave has peaked?
We are (a bit of) an outlier with high vaccination levels though.
If lockdown remains a legitimate tool to 'protect the health system' when a disease goes round, then we're fucked as a civilisation.
The Dutch lockdown is utterly laughable. No more than two people can be together outdoors. Jesus wept.
They've fully vaccinated over 73% of people too. Utter nutters.
All is revealed.
I saw that exchange and as much as Freeeeeuseh Neeeeuson is sometimes a bit off about things, Graham's attitude seemed bizarre.
At least summarise. Thats far too much reading for this time on a weekend.
Basically sage are asked to model scenarios which show things that the government will need to take action on, not necessarily the most likely.
The train does need fuel and SAGE are a very reliable source of it.
Suppose it makes sense but then it should be reported in such a way.
As always the real problem (in terms of getting this stuff to the public) is that the media industry is fundamentally broken.
If they haven't taken into account a reduction in virulence in their modelling (I swear they did similar previously by ignoring vaccine impact) coupled with Whitty's refusal to accept any good news from South Africa, we're properly into bad science territory now.
Can we also stop calling them leaks, it's people deliberately passing stuff to each other on a fully authorised basis and has been for ages.
Wasn’t there a model back in summer trying to demonstrate that we WEREN’T OUT OF THE WOODS and that lifting of restriction would lead to 100,000 more deaths? Can’t remember specifically but it was Armageddon stuff.
They can model whatever they need to model, but it seems like the cycle goes:
- SAGE are asked to model bad things
- SAGE duly model bad things
- The SAGE models of bad things are shown to Boris/Whitty/cabinet, everyone shits themselves and introduces restrictions.
As such it's not so much SAGE's fault as it is a failure of leadership or, in Whitty's case and pretty much with all medics I think, a preponderance towards caution for caution's sake.
Incidentally I am glad we have ended up with Whitty and not the person who preceded him in the role just before the pandemic, because she was an absolute bed wetter of the highest degree.
Yeah, there was something like that which may have been the one I was referring to above where they were basically ignoring vaccine impact.
Even Whitty has said himself in the past that at some point we’re going to have to accept covid is endemic and learn to live with it. I wonder if he still thinks that.
Indeed, and if we don't cut these 'scientific' advisors loose we're going to be in this boat time and time again.
If he doesn't I would love to know what's changed his mind.
Being accosted by drunks in the street purely for appearing on the briefings I imagine. If he signs off on it all as a load of wank and says 'fuck the masks, let's have a real freedom day with an orgy and everything!' And then the deaths go nuclear he'll be like Blair getting citizen's arrested every time he is in Wagamama.
I dont think deaths would go nuclear. But, yeah, I dont know what keeps Whitty in that job. Absolutely thankless.
He probably stumbled across Magic calling him 'Piss Shitty' and folded like a deckchair.
Is that what he said? I could barely make it out from the wheezing.
Per day.
I'm on the ropes. R.I.P.
This is hilarious. You'd be better off with bovid.
You weren't.
What does him collapsing at the vaccination centre and then feeling shit after it have to do with the vaccine?
Probably quite alot. But Magic ending up in hospital because he thought he was dying Probably has a fair amount amount to do with Covid.
That was the only way they'd give me antibiotics. And it was to get tested not admission lol.
They wouldn't give you antibiotics unless you posted "I think I'm dying" on TTH?
Dramatics.
So the local pub has lol'd off the latest mask mandate. All they want is the green tick for the vaccine passport.
Anyone else noticing the narrative slightly changing in the media to omcrin being much more mild? Wonder what's about to happen now...
We will enjoy Christmas?
It's absurd. Luckily I'm out of here over the holidays, but the prospect of returning in Jan is not exciting.
The booster centres are out the doors here.
Just tuned into the footy and noticed that nobody in the crowd is wearing a mask - has you lot completely given up with them now?
Went a pantomime yesterday and everyone had a mask on throughout.
Went to see Father Christmas today and nobody had one on.
I'm a twit
Indoor spaces only, I think.
Masks are health theatre at the best of times, but in a wave of this nature I doubt they make any real difference at all, especially given that half the population don't wear them properly.
They've been a real red herring throughout the pandemic - not worth getting worked up about on either side, and yet people have. It's because they're visible and so wearers/non wearers (delete as applicable) can be easily pitchforked.
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