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    McDonald's are not a company with a history of treating and curing illness.

    Honestly. I can't.

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    No, but they are a company. Why do companies exist?

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    Not going down this rabbithole and neither should you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Of course. We also have a load of pharmaceutical companies that are run by people whose sole job is to maximise shareholder wealth and aren't therefore going to be interested in finding a solution that makes vaccines redundant within 3 years.
    They are interested in that Yev. I worked in vaccine research for the best part of ten years and can safely tell you that every company wants to be the ones to end this. A magical drug or vaccine that outperforms all the others or ends covid would be extremely valuable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7om View Post
    They are interested in that Yev. I worked in vaccine research for the best part of ten years and can safely tell you that every company wants to be the ones to end this. A magical drug or vaccine that outperforms all the others or ends covid would be extremely valuable.
    Of course, but in the absence of that (these vaccines clearly aren't going to end it) do you think the higher ups are going to be happy to make no money from this after the three years are up?

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    I'll be honest lads I walked into the big Tesco last night maskless in the name of freedom day's passing then BOTTLED it 5 yards in when I saw the majority of people were masked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Not going down this rabbithole and neither should you.
    The brain washing is incredible. Do you know how much the skin whitening market is worth? Is that product treating or curing an illness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Of course, but in the absence of that (these vaccines clearly aren't going to end it) do you think the higher ups are going to be happy to make no money from this after the three years are up?
    I would imagine that for powerhouses like AZ and GSK, a goodwill covid program that is non-profit won’t hurt them at all financially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    The brain washing is incredible. Do you know how much the skin whitening market is worth? Is that product treating or curing an illness?
    Lol what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7om View Post
    I would imagine that for powerhouses like AZ and GSK, a goodwill covid program that is non-profit won’t hurt them at all financially.
    AZ's share price is as high as it's ever been, but let's watch that tumble if we're not using their vaccines within three years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    Lol what.
    The point is that pharmaceutical companies have absolutely no problem indulging in ethical filth if they can make money from it.

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    The whole market is at an all time high

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    AZ's share price is as high as it's ever been, but let's watch that tumble if we're not using their vaccines within three years.
    They weren’t doing too bad pre-pandemic, to be fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    The whole market is at an all time high
    Will it still be there if we're not using any COVID vaccines come 2024?

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    And look, I'm not saying there's definitely any shady shit going on to prolong this, but goalposts are being moved, T-Cells aren't being remotely talked about and there's a huge push to get everyone vaccinated.

    The vaccines are also a bit crap (I'm 100% convinced not by design), but that also leads to boosters being needed (if we're ignoring T-Cells), so to be roundly set upon for posing any questions on the matter is insane.

    In any other walk of life we'd be asking why this is happening, who is going to benefit from it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Will it still be there if we're not using any COVID vaccines come 2024?
    That will depend on financial performance across the board. These are multi-billion pound companies with huge and varied product lines. Covid isn't do or die.

    That said, it has long been accepted that Covid is here to stay. You can count the number of illnesses we've eliminated with vaccines on one finger and that took nearly 20 years.

    They will profit handsomely from the vaccines and will do so without having to do anything sociopathic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    The "it lives on wood, plastic and steel for 8 days" that was released last year is solely to blame for that. People heard it first and can't shake it.
    I still spray everything I buy in a shop with sanitiser. Haven’t caught it yet so I’m not changing that at this stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    They will profit handsomely from the vaccines and will do so without having to do anything sociopathic.
    They'll profit handsomely from them only if we're still using them. And agreed on it long being accepted (bar by the zero COVID mentalists) that COVID is here to stay, but it's not been accepted long (or even at all) that we were going to have to vaccinate everyone and follow that up with boosters if people still want to do things and enjoy life, which now appears very much to be the path we're on.

    As Don pointed out, it was only a few months ago people here were saying no chance on vaccine passports domestically. IIRC you were one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    I still spray everything I buy in a shop with sanitiser. Haven’t caught it yet so I’m not changing that at this stage.
    You do you, but you'd probably be fine. I washed beer bottle tops before drinking from them for about 2 months from last March and then got bored doing so and still don't think I ever caught it.

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    I get the liquid sanitiser free in work and just refill my house bottle and van bottle whenever so it’s not really worth stopping when it costs nothing. Probably worth doing regardless of covid.

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    I think Jim nailed it when he said living on your own is the key to having avoided catching this. I mean, it made me go nearly mental, but that and working from home was a double whammy in that respect.

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    Not sure staying up til 5am's a factor, Yev.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Not sure staying up til 5am's a factor, Yev.
    I didn't. Went to bed about 10 and woke up at 5. Watched the last 5 minutes of the Bucks winning and then had another couple of hours. My sleeping is now back to being incredibly well managed and boy do I feel better for it.

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    Unless you meant generally over the last 16 months, in which case, carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I didn't. Went to bed about 10 and woke up at 5. Watched the last 5 minutes of the Bucks winning and then had another couple of hours. My sleeping is now back to being incredibly well managed and boy do I feel better for it.
    Giannis > Socrates

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    I get the liquid sanitiser free in work and just refill my house bottle and van bottle whenever so it’s not really worth stopping when it costs nothing. Probably worth doing regardless of covid.
    It'll be funny when you die of something utterly minimal because you've destroyed your own immune system.

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    How did you knack yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    I think Jim nailed it when he said living on your own is the key to having avoided catching this. I mean, it made me go nearly mental, but that and working from home was a double whammy in that respect.
    I live with a teacher and get coughed on by kids all day and haven't had it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post

    The vaccines are also a bit crap (I'm 100% convinced not by design), but that also leads to boosters being needed
    This is firstly nonsense, it's hugely more effective than say the flu vaccine and boosters, while talked about about, is not actually a necessity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikó View Post
    This is firstly nonsense, it's hugely more effective than say the flu vaccine and boosters, while talked about about, is not actually a necessity.
    Isn't the problem with vaccinating against Flu that you're making the vaccine before you know what the strain will be? I wasn't holding the flu one up as the basis of comparison.

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    As opposed to a covid vaccine designed two variants back?

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    The strains included in the flu vaccine are those that were most prevalent in the preceding year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    I live with a teacher and get coughed on by kids all day and haven't had it.
    Well yes, but you're much more likely to have done than me.

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    One of the paed surgical registrars who worked in a hospital where SARS was going round told me back at the start "Wash your hands a ridiculous amount and don't touch your face and you won't get it". I have followed his advice and neither of us have had it.

    They should have just asked him and this could've been done with 18 months ago.

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    Yev was much more entertaining talking rubbish about England's football team. In danger of jumping the shark here.

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    As always, feel free to point out specifically what you take issue with.

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    You not doing your list.

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    Now that is a very fair comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    One of the paed surgical registrars who worked in a hospital where SARS was going round told me back at the start "Wash your hands a ridiculous amount and don't touch your face and you won't get it". I have followed his advice and neither of us have had it.

    They should have just asked him and this could've been done with 18 months ago.
    But it's airbourne lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    But it's airbourne lol.
    I know you struggle with subtle social cues what with your autism but I wasn't being entirely serious with that post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    I'll be honest lads I walked into the big Tesco last night maskless in the name of freedom day's passing then BOTTLED it 5 yards in when I saw the majority of people were masked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    As always, feel free to point out specifically what you take issue with.
    You change your views constantly. It's mental that you deny this.

    Are you on the spectrum?

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    Does he change his views? He seems remarkably consistent to me.

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    I feel he does about the vaccine. But definitely not about the dreaded science. There he's as consistent as ever.

    And he did say he was going clubbing when this all opens up.

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    Hard border with NSW goes up tonight.

    Zero community transmissions again today, NRL in Queensland for the rest of year including Grand Final, Olympics... Queensland>NSW

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    Yevrah's went from, "BUT WE HAVE A VACCINE!" to "THE VACCINE IS TERRIBLE!"

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    And everyone else has gone from 'we'll soon have a vaccine' to 'keep sticking it down my throat pls'.

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    How many weeks after the first dose can you have the second? I've been told 8 as a minimum which seems bollocks.

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    That's right. It was 12 but they shifted it forward to 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc View Post
    How many weeks after the first dose can you have the second? I've been told 8 as a minimum which seems bollocks.
    Pfizer said 21 or 28 days I think. It's just UK policy to do 8-12 weeks. Apparently it makes the vaccine more effective, but who knows

    I had mine 21/05 and 18/07 which is 8 weeks and a few days.

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