Er, why do you think they prepare for these events? You prepare for the worst situation and prepare scenarios to deal with them.Originally Posted by Magic
Er, why do you think they prepare for these events? You prepare for the worst situation and prepare scenarios to deal with them.
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I don't doubt it. I was just being mindful of my audience (Magic). Had I just said HIV came from people living alongside (and eating) animals we'd be on page 5 of Q-Anon material by now.
Sounds like BOFFIN chat to me. Just blame it on the gays or the foreigns or the gay foreigns and be done with it.
They don't, clearly.
Forrins.
HIV came from people eating monkeys, then someone building a road through Zaire which took the monkey-eaters from the Maniema over to Kinshasa and from there it went to North America, and then the world.
Reviewing SAGE just sounds like something they would do as the situation calmed down. Ah, the first line of the Telegraph's article:
The role of Sage is likely to be reviewed once this pandemic is over, government sources have said ...."Okay, what do the Daily Mail say about this?
No timescale yet very definite.Britain's top scientific advisory committee will be reviewed over fears it holds too much sway over the Government's decisions, it was claimed today.
I'll give them that much. Those worst case scenarios involved no lockdowns or restrictions whatsoever. I'm not even sure about that 500,000 deaths. "We'd be lucky to get away with 20,000" is the quote I always think about.Much of the criticism has been aimed at SAGE's pessimistic modelling of the crisis, which forecast an astonishing 500,000 deaths in the first wave and warned of 4,000 Covid victims per day this winter.
500,000 deaths and 4,000 a day were clearly based on us doing nothing/not locking down again so I'm fine with those. I have more of an issue with the batshit stuff they've been coming out with since, which would only make sense if we didn't have a vaccine.
Hang on a second, the Pfizer jab has the same basic prevalence of these clots (ie none really, but some) as the AstraZeneca one? Unfathomably lol if true.
I saw a quote from the Italian regulator (friends with the German comedian) earlier saying the suspension was political. They've passed into the twilight zone I think. Except Belgium, oddly.
I'm well used to the concept of the EU acting in/prioritising it's own interests (ahead of those of its members or their citizens) but this seems a bit arse about tit to have the member states prostrating themselves on the high altar of ever closer union.
I saw Ian Dale earlier cheekily conspiring [without conviction] that this was evidence of the power of the Pfizer lobby in Brussels, as they stand to make a mint out of it.
I also like the one about the EU originally being sceptical of German motivations in vaccine procurement [ie they wanted to blow the whole budget on the one they invented] so they went down the bargain basement AstraZeneca route.
It's all gone fully through the looking glass.
The nose is off and the face is being spited.
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At least the Italian take (it's a political decision) is honest.
That just makes no sense at all, although I suppose that depends on what you are trying to protect public confidence in.
Bludgeon about to give us no hope whatsoever.
One weird trick to make complaints about your slow rollout disappear. They'll okay it in a week, rollout faster than ever and then pretend this was a good idea. Then they'll be asking people to come forward in another week's time as they sit on spares for the rest of eternity.
I thought you guys were tight?The European Union medicines regulator has reiterated there is "no indication" that the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid jab causes blood clots, after several countries paused their rollouts.
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So the MHRA, WHO and now the EMA have all said there is no link between blood clots and the vaccine. Which begs the question why have all these countries suspended using the Oxford product and in a coordinated fashion?
These people are fucking idiots. Not only have they shown themselves to be incompetent (again) but they could have also damaged confidence in covid vaccination programs as a whole.
Hahaha she's went one better than BoJo because she knows she's under huge pressure and has made a total cunt of it. FUCK YOU TURDGEON.
Just go outside, Ruth.Tories call for earlier opening of 'safe exercise spaces'
Only allowing pubs to serve alcohol outdoors in Scotland is trolling of the highest level.
9/10 Scots spend most of their time drinking outdoors. It's just usually at bus stops, in graveyards or under railway bridges.
I was conflicted as to whether we should leave the EU or not. My heart said leave (the bureaucratic mess), but my head said stay (you have a good life, don't rock the boat). It's incredible how little time it's taken to swing that.
If we ran the vote again today I can't imagine we'd even be in 'it's close, should we have a second referendum?' territory.
All my poncey ways told me that remain was the best option, but I voted leave simply because the fundamental truth of the EU is that it's an attempt to use a one size fits all approach for 25+ completely different nations/economies/cultures, and it struck me that there would definitely come a point further down the line when we wouldn't want to be rolled up in that particular dungball.
I didn't think it would come anywhere near this soon.
In fairness, a crisis like Covid will do that. Something tells me a Britain still tied to the EU would take the early gamble on jabs, though. It was an absolute necessity.
It's hilarious that we were told we'd be irrelevant if we left, when all that's happened so far is we're lauding it over a bunch of petty, vaccine dodging, science-denying twats.
We may well have done, but we'd have been flying squarely in the face of the EU on the issue of a generation (maybe more) had we done, at which point, one has to wonder, why are we in it again?
Could have written this myself. Wouldn't need a seconds thought now.
Shut up, you bunch of gammons. This island really is a fascist cesspit. We need to reimagine the debate. Your words are violence. I don't want men to apologise, I want them to recognise they don't have access to our bodies.
She's allowed colleges back on April 5th... That's the start of the 2 week Easter break.
I get the whole 'let's just follow England but shift the dates a few days and rebrand it' approach but did I hear right that she hasn't said end of restrictions in end of June but rather, your Level 0? Scots gonna be running down to English clubs like mad.
Taz on the ropes here. Hang on, son.
Clocks go forward in less than 2 weeks. I believe I have it in me to see out the next 12 days.
UK covid deaths/1mill population = 1,845
Brazil covid deaths/1mill population = 1,318
Which one effectively locked down for a year?
It was all a waste of time.*
* I know we'll never know the answer to this and comparing countries isn't an exact science. But it still offers indications.
Hot countries do better. It really is as easy as that I fear.
The anti-vax mob are hounding the QLD Government about AZ vaccination. Be amazed if we get even 50% done this year now that our spastics have faces to point too.
There has to be something to that as down here both people who had the UK strain had been in the community for over 24 hours with zero community transmission.
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The EU AstraZeneca thing is the we will say masks do nothing to keep demand down all over again but 1000000 times more dangerous.
I thought they had previously debunked the theory that weather and temperature have little impact on covid transmission.
If it isn't the weather directly, then it will be a compound factor of it. Better weather = more time outside = less spread. Or the Vitamin D theory is correct. Or being outdoorsy makes you less likely to be a fat cunt.
So the lockdown is causing the virus to spread?UK covid deaths/1mill population = 1,845
Brazil covid deaths/1mill population = 1,318
Which one effectively locked down for a year?
It was all a waste of time.*
* I know we'll never know the answer to this and comparing countries isn't an exact science. But it still offers indications.
Spikey hits the nail anyway, outdoor transmission is lower for the virus which is why we should the outdoor clubs.
Quincy, this may come as a shock to you but Britain's 11 times more densely populated than Brazil. 725 Brits per square mile, 65 Brazilians.
They have got some cracking poor communities.
Their average age is only 35 apparently, too.
Africa factor.
No, the implication being that the lockdown has done little to curb the mortality rates and virus spreading. Brazil's cases are lower than UK per capita.
Nope, that is clear. But your figures assume all parts of Brazil are habitable and all communities are equally spread over Brazil. This not the case when you consider the shanty towns and slums that are densely populated.
It's food for thought and I thank you all for listening.
Not all of the UK is habitable either. Look at Kent for example.
Garden of England, mate.
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