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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    We decided last week as a family to just spend it in our separate households.

    Funnily enough, the ones that were the quickest to bend previous rules were the first ones to start talking about how Christmas should be cancelled.

    There are a lot of preachy people in my family who are happy to do one thing and then say we should all be doing something else.
    Fair play, that's really responsible of you.

    We haven't 100% decided, but I think we'll be following the Tier 4 rules apart from Christmas day, whereby we'll see my family providing we have no lergy symptoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry View Post
    We decided last week as a family to just spend it in our separate households.

    Funnily enough, the ones that were the quickest to bend previous rules were the first ones to start talking about how Christmas should be cancelled.

    There are a lot of preachy people in my family who are happy to do one thing and then say we should all be doing something else.
    Don't you all live at home?

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    Also: told you so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    The new variant is not limited to the Tier 4 areas. It's just where it's most common. It will spread. As will the new tier. We have zero capability to stop it.
    Like fuck we don't. Don't fucking travel. There's your capability.

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    No Spikey is right. It's already out there I reckon.

    Where I live in Kent, whilst our cases per 100k is a tad on the fucking high side, our 7 day increase percentage is only 8%. Whereas in Bracknell/Surrey locations, their 7 day increase is at 80%.

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    I'm going to have a stroke from reading this thread.

    Thank god I'm back in paeds. January is going to be appalling on the adult side.

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    Spoiler alert: no it won't be.

    Been right the whole way through this thread.

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    The changes to tier four outside of the Christmas changes are going to make my work an absolute nightmare. Half the team will have to go back shielding and then we need to work out if we can do non essential works in people's houses and if we can travel from Portsmouth to Southampton and vice versa.

    Glad we managed to just about avoid being moved up to T3 or T4 but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets changed again this month.

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    The whole country will be in tier 4 soon enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc View Post
    The whole country will be in tier 4 soon enough.
    Indeed, probably ready to see in the new year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    I'm going to have a stroke from reading this thread.

    Thank god I'm back in paeds. January is going to be appalling on the adult side.
    It was my comments wasn't it.

    I'm sticking to the rules apart from 1 day!

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    So you’re not sticking to the rules.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    Like fuck we don't. Don't fucking travel. There's your capability.
    It's already everywhere. It's been going around for 3 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baz View Post
    So you’re not sticking to the rules.
    Nobody is sticking to the rules and the rules don't make sense anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dquincy View Post
    It was my comments wasn't it.

    I'm sticking to the rules apart from 1 day!
    He's been having ideas well above his station for some time now, I wouldn't worry about it.

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    People are obviously sticking to the rules so that’s bollocks. People that don’t are selfish weirdos, regardless of whether or not the government or rules are a shambles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    People are obviously sticking to the rules so that’s bollocks. People that don’t are selfish weirdos, regardless of whether or not the government or rules are a shambles
    Yesterday I broke the rules because the maskless man in the shop was basically standing on my heels in the queue.

    In the same shop there was a group of 7 twenty-somethings that I very much doubt live together.

    The entirety of my Facebook last night was post after post of "well Boris can fuck off if he thinks..."

    People are not following the rules.

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    People will always break the rules. I’m just saying others are and probably the majority at that otherwise everywhere would look like London

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    People will always break the rules. I’m just saying others are and probably the majority at that otherwise everywhere would look like London
    You some kind of thicko? That's what we could have said about the North a few months ago when their rates were off the scale and the South was relatively low. This virus just works in geographical waves and takes time to spread. Peaks and troughs.

    And this bollocks about oh kids in that area are worse than kids in other areas at rule following. Every area will have people that follow the rules and won't follow the rules.

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    "Boris can fuck off..." as if he's doing it out of spite.

    Absolute children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffdon View Post
    People will always break the rules. I’m just saying others are and probably the majority at that otherwise everywhere would look like London
    And yet here we are with record numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    "Boris can fuck off..." as if he's doing it out of spite.

    Absolute children.
    It's clear Spikey didn't mean he's doing it out of spite. More just the timing of it all is incompetent, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Yesterday I broke the rules because the maskless man in the shop was basically standing on my heels in the queue.

    In the same shop there was a group of 7 twenty-somethings that I very much doubt live together.

    The entirety of my Facebook last night was post after post of "well Boris can fuck off if he thinks..."

    People are not following the rules.
    Tier 5 incoming.
    I'm a twit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dquincy View Post
    It's clear Spikey didn't mean he's doing it out of spite. More just the timing of it all is incompetent, etc.
    Something new has happened (there is a new, more transmissible strain). They have changed the rules in response to this (which was not foreseeable) and rising infection rates. It's a completely appropriate thing to have done.

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    Look, I'm happy to pile in on incompetence when I see it, but I don't know what the government could have done differently here. Although I realise I'm saying that from the relatively luxury of tier 2, but that only means I'll be in tier 8 when the rest of you drop down.

    We're utterly riddled with this fucker at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Something new has happened (there is a new, more transmissible strain). They have changed the rules in response to this (which was not foreseeable) and rising infection rates. It's a completely appropriate thing to have done.
    I've already said that this is the right thing to do. It doesn't make people's disappointment less understandable. People have been clinging onto thoughts of a happy Christmas for months.

    It changes pretty much nothing for me as we were staying home anyway.

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    It's fine to be disappointed.

    It's the "fuck the government for cancelling Christmas!" and the "should have just broken the rules all year then if they were going to take Christmas away anyway waaaaaaaah" and the "but Muuuuuuuum you prooooomiiiiiised" whining that is pathetic.

    Not everything is someone's fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    It's fine to be disappointed.
    Thank you.

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    Believing there's a new strain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc View Post
    Thank you.

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    The change in restrictions are a bit shit. We were planning to go to my partner's family in Kent but obviously now a no-go. I'm disappointed as they usually put on a sick spread, and it's nice being out the country w/ pets etc. rather than being cooped up in a garden-less flat in a city, but it'll be first time my partner is away from her fam at Christmas and was therefore pretty upset.

    Saying that, given the government's approach to restrictions / lockdowns, it would've been hard for them to justify allowing the Christmas relaxation go ahead. The incompetence lies in the ironclad commitments/promises they've previously made - promising a somewhat normal Christmas when the infection/transmission rates are volatile (+ impact of Winter on hospitals) made it an obviously reckless decision at the time. They were just hoping they'd be lucky and they haven't been. (Appreciate preparations needed to be made for the mechanics of Christmas relaxation but no need to tackle it so early and talk in absolute terms)

    So yeah, mixed emotions. Bring on the middle of Spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc View Post
    Thank you.
    No worries.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Believing there's a new strain.
    Yes we've already established you don't know about evolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Believing there's a new strain.
    Viruses evolving is a pretty standard thing. It's how we got off the hook wih Bird Flu IIRC, it just evolved to become less deadly.

    RL's ability to evolve from an empty ward, free Easter Egg, triple overtime bragging doctor to a war weary, holier than thou doctor is more confusing.

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    It was brought over on the Gatwick drone.

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    What is the rationale of cutting back from five days to one? If a family member is infected, we are going to end up getting it off them whether we spend one day or five days together.

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    Because they wouldn't get away with none.

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    If everyone stayed locked in their houses for five days that would probably be true, but people will be going out to the shops and stuff.

    So if one person goes to the shop and catches it they're bringing it home to three households instead of one.
    Last edited by randomlegend; 20-12-2020 at 11:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    RL's ability to evolve from an empty ward, free Easter Egg, triple overtime bragging doctor to a war weary, holier than thou doctor is more confusing.
    I can be both

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    Limiting to 1 day probably limits family gatherings to people who are seeing each other anyway, where as 5 days would have Kiko and co. travelling long distances across different tiers to spend the week with family.

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    Looked up the single dose efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine out of interest and it's thought to be around 80-90% (although not conclusively proven) after 14 days.


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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    If everyone stayed locked in their houses for five days that would probably be true, but people will be going out to the shops and stuff.

    So if one person goes to the shop and catches it they're bringing it home to three households instead of one.
    Just shut all shops for that five day period, then. Lockdown everything except supermarkets.

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    Do we have any idea why this new strain is more transmissible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7om View Post
    Just shut all shops for that five day period, then. Lockdown everything except supermarkets.
    You can still catch covid in a supermarket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7om View Post
    What is the rationale of cutting back from five days to one? If a family member is infected, we are going to end up getting it off them whether we spend one day or five days together.
    Stops people staying over night. Means people can't really travel very far to visit etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boydy View Post
    Do we have any idea why this new strain is more transmissible?
    Not yet, as far as I can make out. Will take a couple of weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    You can still catch covid in a supermarket.
    Oh right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Limiting to 1 day probably limits family gatherings to people who are seeing each other anyway, where as 5 days would have Kiko and co. travelling long distances across different tiers to spend the week with family.
    He needs to get his walking boots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Stops people staying over night. Means people can't really travel very far to visit etc.
    But the 3 household rule still applies for tier 3 and lower. So whether it's 1 day or 5 days, if you have covid you're going to pass it on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dquincy View Post
    But the 3 household rule still applies for tier 3 and lower. So whether it's 1 day or 5 days, if you have covid you're going to pass it on.
    True, but I think even in tier 3 areas if you cant stay over night you're far less likely to travel and see people so it will be far less people passing it on.

    I'm going to go to my parents house as I live a 5 minute walk away, I wouldn't go if I couldn't walk. Id rather stay home and have a few drinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    I’d have went with dried penne.
    Can Fry Crayola make this game?


    I'm an hour or so away from the border, I've got my fake Scottish passport and papers so hopefully all be okay. The train is largely empty today (so far).

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