A dickhead in "peads" thinking he's a virologist.
A dickhead in "peads" thinking he's a virologist.
You don't know then?Originally Posted by randomlegend
I get that viruses mutate but already early doors we've seen people with allergies are unable to have this vaccine, no? So what if the virus continues to mutate? Can the genome protein change to the point the vaccine can't stimulate a response? Genuine question.
Most people with allergies can have it. You'd need a virologist for your other question. My educated guess would be that it would take some serious bad luck for the spike protein genes to mutate sufficiently to render the vaccine ineffective without making the spike protein itself ineffectual. But I don't know
Well we've hardly been blessed with fortune this year. I guess I'm just sceptic on the whole thing now, it's as though if there is a decision to get wrong then you can guarantee we'll choose that path. I can almost imagine the vaccine going from the light at the end of the tunnel the the light at the end of the tunnel for only a percentage and others will have to wait for a new version and so forth.
It just seems never ending.
If this new strain has originated here then surely the rest of Europe would benefit from closing their borders to us?
Aren't most borders closed (in the sense that people are required to quarantine after travelling in to most places) anyway?
Someone on my Facebook has just posted a picture from the shopping centre (for lack of a better term) in Southend. It's rammed. This announcement should have been both later and with immediate effect, surely?
Not to Captain Tom and co.
Maybe the logic with him is if he had covid he'd almost certainly be dead.
Nothing has been with immediate effect in this pandemic, could you imagine the chaos. 'Midnight tonight' is the best you can ever do.
Just ordered the very same. You and Boris have flab on your hands.Not that it makes any odds to me, and I did just get a double bacon big mac (what an abomination) so swings and roundabouts.
Especially with the press sources inside Westminster always leaking shit ahead of time.
Tier 4 for the whole of Hertfordshire.
Infection rate of only 150ish here in North Herts...
Highland is jumping from tier 1 to tier 4 on Boxing Day.
Smashing.
Gym closed for lockdown so probably stuck up here to work for a while too.
Dad's funeral yesterday and now this. Getting mighty tired of it all.
Shite.
Condolences.
Imagine there’s meltdowns occurring nationwide about now.
My work whatsapp group started going off earlier, which never happens - suspect this has finished everyone off, morale-wise.
Sorry about that, Alan.
What an imbecile.
Can I travel to Scotland tomorrow?
I've had to log off twitter because of all the shrieking 'Think about people dying! Not having presents is hardly a sacrifice!' or worse still, the ones about how people went through much worse in World War II. How to misunderstand what it is to be human in a single tweet.
Not legally. My sister & husband were going to make the opposite trip but now having to sit in their flat in Edinburgh and eat chips soup or whatever the staple is up there.
Fuck sake. It isn't really clear when the rules are in place from - was it basically from moment of comment?
I don't think you were allowed to travel anyway until the Christmas relaxation of 23rd, which now does not exist. You're in a Tier 4 zone (presumably) so can't leave it as of midnight tonight, hence the stations are currently packed to bursting with evacuees.
Shouldn't you be one of the many now fleeing London by any means possible? Midnight apparently, but what does it really mean to be 'within the rules'?
I'm in tier 3 Manchester right now and would be traveling into unknown tier Scotland tomorrow on the train.
Unless you have armed guards at the stations, this shit was always going to happen. I'd love to fuck off any sort of traveling during this. The only time it was good was during the second lockdown when you had a double-decker practically to yourself.
Monday morning's going to be so shite.
If you get the Group to isolate it should offset your movements.
You haven't been able to enter Scotland legally since 19 Nov unless you're on the list of exemptions, so it's up to you whether to stick with that, or make a dash for the border like Bonnie Prince Charlie. I'd probably do the latter if I wasn't concerned about then getting out again.
Those poor walking boots have been itching to get out as well.
Come up tomorrow and you can have a nice pint in Angus
Business travel innit.
It’s not though.
I tried to do test and release in arriving in the uk but the results would arrive a day before quarantine ends. Useful.
They wouldn't question Lord Kiko though.
If he's still turning their Christmas lights on it probably counts.
He gets his wife to translate.
Considering binning off my holiday in May due to the uncertainty and could do with the cash, just have to work out how much I lose cancelling.
If I was a programmer, I'd definitely make a little Windows pop-up minigame where you play as Kiko trying to cross the Scottish border by air, sea or rail while having to dodge Giggles catapulting bottles of home brew at you from passing vehicles.
She goes on to blame the train companies for having an open ticketing system (they have to) rather than limiting sales. Not sure she has ever travelled by train based on that assessment.
She’s also an absolute nobody, who cares?
But that's a lot of nobodies. Some of whom will be infected with more transmissible form of an already transmissible disease.
I miss Theresa May.
The new variant is not limited to the Tier 4 areas. It's just where it's most common. It will spread. As will the new tier. We have zero capability to stop it.
It's bollocks. People were happy to meet with their parents/family for Christmas up until someone them not to this afternoon. Nothing significant changed from yesterday or earlier this weel when the cases were already high. Absolute sheep.
P.s. I live in the South East.
Out of interest, are Tier 4 people on here intending on following or breaking the rule regarding seeing their family on Christmas day?
I don't really know what the rules are beyond "Christmas is cancelled boohoo". My apathy persists.
We decided last week as a family to just spend it in our separate households.
Funnily enough, the ones that were the quickest to bend previous rules were the first ones to start talking about how Christmas should be cancelled.
There are a lot of preachy people in my family who are happy to do one thing and then say we should all be doing something else.
I’d have went with dried penne.
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