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    He's got a bit of Daniel Craig 007 about him. In looks and behavior

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Aye, you've got to give him his due, he's done well for himself there. Fair play indeed.

    I bet this has been a tough old time for the extra-marital affair crowd, you know.

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    If you Google her name and look at the other pictures of her it makes a bit more sense.

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    Yikes.

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    It’s like Yev said. We shouldn’t always put our faith in the ‘infallible SCIENTISTS’ and their Staats.

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    That being said, doxxing the other person is not on, whatever it is you think about adultery.

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    What's the social distancing equivalent to car keys in a bowl?

    Private Zoom codes in a whatsapp group?

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    Doxxing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    Doxxing?
    Finding out peoples private information. Real name, address, place of work etc and then publishing it.

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    Ah right. She deserves that.

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    America.

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    Theresa May sticking her oar in now. Genuinely managed to forget about her existence for a bit.

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    I don't get the twitter screaming and crying among supposedly intelligent people about Neil Ferguson's thing being a SMOKESCREEN to hide the fact that UK deaths have overtaken Italian ones.

    a) it hasn't hidden that;
    b) that is in any case a meaningless statistic;
    c) the supposed architect of lockdown breaking his own rules for sex at a time when law-abiding people have not been allowed to see family, partners and friends for weeks is a disgrace and should be reported on.

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    I mean, she's right.

    Perhaps a bit premature to have expected international co-operation to have happened already, but it has to very soon be part of how we get out of this.

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    Anyone payin any attention to the COVID death numbers at this stage is a drooling mess.

    All deaths in six months time or stfu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Anyone payin any attention to the COVID death numbers at this stage is a drooling mess.

    All deaths in six months time or stfu.
    What a nonsense. And why 6 months?

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    I love all these rent-an-opinion scientists wading in like they're the top authorities. Cunts. Make the most of the temporary relevance lads.

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    Lol it’s taken them how long to get to 100k (which they've so far managed to hit once?) and Boris turns up saying ‘Don’t worry we’ll have 200k by the end of this month. ‘

    He’s so trumpian with his absolute desperation to announce a round number that sounds big and then make excuses for not hitting it later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    What a nonsense. And why 6 months?
    The six months is just a stab in the dark tbf but definitely needs a significant span of time.

    Given the differences in testing, reporting, etc, making yesterday a Super Tuesday duel between UK and Italy was retarded given it's based off the COVID death figure. Not sure if excess 'All Deaths' data is available for Italy or other countries like it is from the ONS but that's the only form of death data that should be trusted and used to compare countries. COVID deaths, tests, cases, etc al pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    The six months is just a stab in the dark tbf but definitely needs a significant span of time.

    Given the differences in testing, reporting, etc, making yesterday a Super Tuesday duel between UK and Italy was retarded given it's based off the COVID death figure. Not sure if excess 'All Deaths' data is available for Italy or other countries like it is from the ONS but that's the only form of death data that should be trusted and used to compare countries. COVID deaths, tests, cases, etc al pointless.
    This is the old, you can't compare deaths between countries shtick that you seem to have fallen for hook line and sinker. Which the government and our wanker senior scientists claim is the case, solely because every measure at the moment makes us look a bit shit at best, despite themselves laughably putting up a country death comparison chart at most of the briefings I've seen.

    I admit, it's not perfect, but to claim it's pointless is to be drinking the Kool-Aid. One just needs to remove incomparable and treat the rest with caution.

    Another one to add to the list of free passes given to THE SCIENCE vs. every other walk of life though.
    Last edited by Yevrah; 06-05-2020 at 12:05 PM.

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    And even if you couldn't compare now, what are we actually doing that will make the numbers look any better in x months time? Promising we'll hit another meaningless (on its own), and soon to be manipulated target, by the end of May?

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    The ONS are usually at least a quarter behind in those stats, the Q4 2019 ones came out in early March I think, so it'll be the end of the summer, if not the end of the year before they become available for the period to now.

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    I think the point is that in six months everybody will be about as shit as each other, rather than that we expect to have won by then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    I think the point is that in six months everybody will be about as shit as each other, rather than that we expect to have won by then.
    Which is a nonsense point. Some (comparable) countries will have clearly handled this better than others by the time it's all over.

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    And most haven't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    And most haven't.
    Why should we not expect to be in the some? Particularly when we seemingly had ample warning.

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    I couldn't care less what the politicians are doing to cover their own arses or for optics' sake. Intelligent use of statistics is my kool-aid and was the foundation to my relentless barrage of donnings I handed out on here in the football threads over the years.

    This is a very clear explanation by a competent SCIENTIST who seems to have plagiarised the early work of John Arne and I and which was cited by Vallance yesterday:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ther-countries

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    Another example of poor.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52558759

    Why are our airports putting measures in place that should have been government mandated and exist the world over already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    I couldn't care less what the politicians are doing to cover their own arses or for optics' sake. Intelligent use of statistics is my kool-aid and was the foundation to my relentless barrage of donnings I handed out on here in the football threads over the years.

    This is a very clear explanation by a competent SCIENTIST who seems to have plagiarised the early work of John Arne and I and which was cited by Vallance yesterday:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ther-countries
    I'll have a read in the hope that'll offer a new perspective on the nonsense I've already read on this.

    In the meantime, Daniel Sturridge says hi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Why should we not expect to be in the some? Particularly when we seemingly had ample warning.
    Why should we? We're doing probably alright, all things considered, and it still might come out in the wash - six months, a year from now - that a lot of this was pointless anyway. I'm still predicating this on the belief that confining the entire country to their houses in late-February was a non-starter though, so if you think that was a goer then you're obviously going to think it was botched from the off.

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    Wait a sec, Sturridge was my greatest achievement. I mean point to your Balotellis and Taraabts but don't start repainting the Sturridge years. Many a great lives were lost on that battlefield.

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    Germany had a Fitness Advantage with its fragmented health system.

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    lll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Wait a sec, Sturridge was my greatest achievement. I mean point to your Balotellis and Taraabts but don't start repainting the Sturridge years. Many a great lives were lost on that battlefield.
    Sturridge has been an embarrassment for longer than he was good so if he's your success story you should stay quiet.

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    Come on, man.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Germany had a Fitness Advantage with its fragmented health system.
    Allowing the Bundesliga to return when there's a second division side with 10 positives is a great move.

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    I went out for a mooch at about five-ish, and the front was the busiest I've seen it since all this started. Nobody seems to care about you getting close to them now either, where as when it started people would have a MELTDOWN if you walked past them.

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    The behavioural scientists are dining on oysters and champagne.

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    Still fairly quiet here, though Tesco was queued right back at 8 which was odd. Presume folk getting the bevy in for the good weather tomorrow and bank holiday.

    Is that the reason the announcement is on Sunday rather than Thursday? To stop folk going mad on Friday/this weekend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    The behavioural scientists are dining on oysters and champagne.
    They wouldn't be if the message from the government was stronger. That it isn't just makes me think they're fine with lockdown being broken as a matter of course now.

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    They want to be able to blame people, not themselves.

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    True. I haven't heard anything about staying in or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    True. I haven't heard anything about staying in or anything.
    The impetus has gone from the government's message and they've done nothing to get it back.

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    I haven't noticed any let up in the adverts about staying inside. There has been a general shift on the back of being beyond the peak of it towards wanting to know how and when we open back up, but if anything the government have been overly-cautious about that. Or is that the reason; if we had a proper schedule in place for the pubs re-opening we would all observe it religiously?

    I think more likely is that we're supposedly past the worst of it, so people are thinking well I haven't died of it, so I'll just squeeze past people in shops rather than do another lap of the whole building like a knobhead.

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    The adverts weren't what created the impetus. It was things like Boris speaking directly to people and the police being arsed. Maybe the media have got bored covering it, but people breaking lockdown doesn't even seem to be a story at the moment.

    Maybe there's no issue in that, and it's all part of the plan, but if you run things this loosely good luck getting everyone back inside again should we actually need to.

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    We're not posting the kind of numbers that would inspire any confidence in an ease of lockdown.

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    We don't have either the state apparatus or the national will to be as authoritarian about things as you seem to want. The rest of the time it's our greatest strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shindig View Post
    We're not posting the kind of numbers that would inspire any confidence in an ease of lockdown.
    But that's my point, there has been an ease of lockdown without actual approval. People and businesses have lost the fear and are doing more and more shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    The adverts weren't what created the impetus. It was things like Boris speaking directly to people and the police being arsed. Maybe the media have got bored covering it, but people breaking lockdown doesn't even seem to be a story at the moment.
    Except when it's the government's scientific advisor on the same day we become the country with the highest death toll in Europe.


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