The three year old downstairs rang on my doorbell before running away on Sunday, as three year olds do (let's call it 'lockdown ginger'). A few minutes later the doorbell rang again and it was the family lining up at a 2m distance to apologise for her intransigence: dad, mum, three year old on bike, uncle smoking a fag, aunt, older women who I presume was grandma... the whole fucking works chilling together for Sunday dinner. Arseholes.
Someone I know had the police round his house on Friday getting a ‘warning’ for visiting a Prostitute’s house at the start of Lockdown. Police and the Anti Social team had been watching the house or something.
Worst thing is he only got a blowjob.
The SAGE papers released this morning and Vallance's responses to the Commons conmittee are insightful stuff.
I'm not sure 'caving' is the healthy description. Just sounds like what 7om was saying, they can't give conclusions without sufficient evidence as is the beauty of SCIENCE and fact is the evidence isn't there yet to go in hard and fast, erections-in-hand. I really disagree with people attributing blame to scientists, least of all ordinary people with no significant scientific (nor insider) knowledge.
That isn't the beauty of science while in a pandemic, it's a significant problem.
One also doesn't need insider knowledge when you can see what other countries are doing. The use of face masks is spreading across Europe like the disease itself and I still haven't seen a coherent explanation for why we should be behaving any differently.
In any walk of life one needs to make decisions without all of the information available. It's just another thing I don't think our scientists should be exempt from doing while we wait around for conclusive, copper bottomed proof.
Sounds like furlough’s changing.
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The Treasury will lower it to 60% and encourage people to work part time or to find another job in an attempt to get the economy going.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/r...-a4432181.html
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Interesting.
60% is a halfway house that doesn't really benefit anyone other than those that don't need to work anyway.
The only thing that will properly get the economy going is ridding the UK of the virus or just behaving as if it isn't there.
I am really intrigued to see what they do with it. We haven't had any meaningful enquiries for new work since lockdown started, so once the furloughed people come back, they'll run out of work very soon unless that changes.
Ah it's because we're all feckless wasters who are taking advantage of the generosity. Get out there and work! [/bam]
But also stay at home and don't go within 2 meters and don't visit your grandma.
Pretty sure it's been covered on here. Beside minor issues with people's inability to source and use masks of adequate quality in a correct manner, there's also the point regarding making people think they're invincible and leading to negative outcomes.
You seem to be conflating scientista with decision-makers which is why you end up losing your rag with the holy bastion that is science.
If you want certainties go to politicians and religious leaders cause that dumb shit has no place in science.
Masks are at best a 'might as well' rather than a game changer. I have ten I nicked from work to account for the event we are forced to wear them, but I don't see the point. Far Eastern people love them because they absolutely can't get enough of dehumanising themselves and submitting to authority.
Hopefully I'll be back working before they drop it to 60%.
I know work wise we had a massive backlog before all of this, it's going to be bonkers when we do get back to work.
80% of our work is in peoples houses or flats. No idea when it will be deemed safe for us to work even with measures in place.
Taz has followed the 'I fucking love science' facebook page and thinks he's a scientist now.
Oi, Boyd, carry on with your 2.5k a month, you chump.
And what exactly is that based on? It seems an assertion that's just as credible as stating they do work, albeit in a limited fashion.
By THE SCIENCE, of course I mean the decision makers. How can people not deduce that? I've obviously no issue with science in and of itself, anyone who does is a moron, my issue is with people.
Case in point, on THE SCIENCE, go back to the opening press conference with Boris and Whallance, all saying we'll be guided by the science. Well that's all well and good if the science is abundantly clear, but when it obviously won't be during a novel virus pandemic you need to get out from hiding behind those block capitals, work with what is available and make some bloody decisions.
I've been sat (working before you start Bam) in my front room today, which faces the street, and lockdown may as well be over for the ludicrous numbers of groups and cars going by. That's a direct result of a lack of leadership and a coherent plan, which actual science can't sort on its own.
I went to the shop this morning before starting work for fresh bread and milk and although it's still nowhere near normal rush hour traffic, it does seem like the roads are getting busier. The shop seemed busier too and there were quite a few tradesmen looking types in at that time.
My commute is still very quiet but that is almost entirely driven by schools being closed. School traffic seems to be about 5 times heavier than work traffic in my area.
We are being forced to wear them here in France in certain situations when the lockdown will be lifted (obligatory in public transports, hairdressers etc and stores have the right to not let you in if you don't have one), but admittedly they've done a great job with making them available.
It's all our gear. You've got Breton shirt nonces on little bikes wearing the UKIP-branded masks we ordered.
Ridiculous he has a little NHS Heroes badge on his lapel nowadays.
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He was quite obviously Chris Grayling 2.0 before the election. I'm amazed he's still in position, must know where Boris' bodies are buried.
That breaking news thing along the bottom says 'asymptotic health workers'.
She's clearly wrong on the quantifiable points, which is presumably why the flange tweeting about it has chosen to frame it as him responding solely to what she said about what people think, which he wasn't doing.
The cabinet maker and car mechanic near my work are flat out working away since this morning. Must have missed that announcement.
Lots of places opening up a bit more this week, we technically never closed and we're bringing some people back.
After a few weeks of thinking about it, I reckon having carried on working in the usual way throughout this will make me mentally tougher than approximately everyone who's been on the furlough scheme. Definite signs in the whatsapp group from my own furloughed colleagues that the initial period of disappointment at being dropped is over, and they're now enjoying living the life of riley on 80% pay.
When people get dragged in off that they'll be mentally scarred for months.
Or when they get hit for another 20% reduction and it becomes clear they might not be getting their jobs back.
It's quite amazing how we've overtaken Italy, been obvious for days/weeks that we were going to and nobody gives a shit.
Imagine how bad it would have been if we'd had generations living on top of each other.
Isn't the answer to that either we do or probably about the same (as that speculation was maybe wrong).
Given France think they had a case in late December I'm not sure how you can make outcome based judgments, other than the extent to which countries were lucky or unlucky in terms of that initial spread. Most big nations seem to fall into the unlucky category.
It's quite bizarre. I figured the open borders might have arsed us but Europe was equally wide open.
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/...avirus-europe/
There's a lad in work swears blind him and his Mrs had this in November, and wasn't it Spikey had suspicions too?
Me and my mrs had 'the Flu' over Christmas and New Year. Awful cough, could barely move for exhaustion. It was awful. The mrs then went on to have pneumonia and needed 2 lung x-rays and 4 different antibiotics (across 2 courses). The dr at the time commented that it was odd for it to be spread across both lungs. I suspect had she had it a month or so later she would have been hospitalised as a precaution atleast. She couldn't walk more than a few meters at a time.
We'll probably never know if it was this. But it was shit whatever it was and it ticks the right boxes. Problem is, so does the Flu.
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I mean, you're still behind Italy and Spain in relative numbers. If something is worrying is that you're still getting much more cases daily and it's not down to more testing.