President Donald J. Trump says we all need to go outside because you only get infected indoors. My president.
President Donald J. Trump says we all need to go outside because you only get infected indoors. My president.
IHME have revised our total deaths projection down from 60,000 to a much more reasonable 33,000.
There seems to be general confusion over what suppressing the peak actually meant. It was designed entirely to prevent NHS capacity from being swamped and as far as I understand it we're nowhere near that - the death camp at the excel is closer to empty than it is to full.
So the peak, for now, is almost an irrelevance and we have to think about what to do next, but being mindful that whatever we do should keep us away from fucking the NHS.
Given the above and some of the points made in Spoon's article, I question why we're still in 'full' lockdown, let alone the idea that we extend it until the end of May.
Over what time period? It'll be higher than that before we're done.Originally Posted by Shindig
Their numbers seems to stop around August when we'll be putting up no or a single death a day.
I can only assume that's the prediction with us avoiding a second peak and having a vaccine.
By August? Another one to file straight in the bin then.
The care home deaths missing currently will take us a fair way towards that number alone.
What we're heading for, in this country at least, is a proxy arena of the Brexit culture wars, with the golf club tie + white van coalition wanting to come off lockdown tomorrow, and the skinny jeans + shrieking mum coalition wanting to keep it fully locked down until the year 3000.
We are trying other treatments, you know? Plasma seems to be getting some positive results.
We'll all be living underwater by then anyway.
And noncing our great, great, great Granddaughters by all accounts.
Ah, I didn't realise you'd read the same study I have.
It's a pretty fine study.
The government have now shat themselves over the incessant accusations and blame game they've lost. All thought and logic seems to have been sacrificed and the order of the day now is to chase Turkish fabrics and refute all accusations of herd immunity rather than make sensible decisions and craft a logical solution. Although in all fairness if PPE and nursing is short then I guess that's why they can't be as bold as we're wanting.
I wouldn't yet go as far as to say a full lockdown was completely unnecessary as it serves a good purpose to make sure people take this shit seriously enough for the isolation of at-risk groups to be succesful but the length and extent of this has already entered into excessive territory and shows no sign of ending any time soon.
I'm not saying full lockdown, or our version of it anyway, should end now, we just need a cohesive plan, which at some point in the not too distant future a loosening of it has to be part of.
I thought strongly that the lockdown should have happened even earlier than it did, but it's not a long term solution and we all have to accept the fact that a shitload more lives will be lost either directly or indirectly from this before we're done, whatever we choose to do.
As for the government, I don't think they've shat themselves, they just know the only way out of this until we get a vaccine applied across Britain (which will not be by September or whatever other ludicrous dates are being chucked around) is testing and tracing and we're woefully ll equipped to that at the moment.
Feels like they're already starting to loosen things. House building is winding back up and B&Q started to open its branches a few days ago.
Itll just be a gradual process behind the scenes rather than some huge announcement.
That's just businesses (that were entitled to be open anyway under the rules) working out how to open up safely. Mine is in the same boat.
We discussed this weeks back but I'm still unclear. It seems more and more like the normality of old is really not going to be seen in 2020 with the stench of social distancing remaining around, I can imagine pubs and bars trying to police some fucking bizzare capacity/social distancing rules but surely that's the end for dancefloors unless they somehow get on top of testing and contact tracing sufficiently, right?
I've noticed people being a bit less anal about distancing over the past couple of weeks. The queues outside shops are inching closer together, and once you're inside you might as well be shopping as normal.
It will come back, it will just take time. This next bit will be the worst as the immediate threat will be less but the stultifying boredom will be dragging on.
People ultimately need to be close to each other or else we might as well all go Jonestown and abandon the species.
I've completely given up on the distancing front.
There'll be no social distancing at the 2 million turnout in the streets for the behavioural scientists' open top bus parade, that's for sure.
I’m away to Asda for the first time to buy a few crates of beer and whatever else will get me twatted. Shall be fun.
I like this response, +1 to Utah
Why?
I'm a twit
It was a callback to my most recent meltdown
It’s my “tag line” thingy on Twitter.
I'm a twit
Oh damn I've had another 'mare then I thought he was doing a bit from when I listed a bunch of emotions for no fuckin reason other than to be an obnoxious dipshit.
So ANYWAYS whoops.
Easy peasy. Since when was it £20 for Smirnoff?
What did you buy for yourself?
Tesco near me is going with a full one way system, staggered checkouts, and aisles in the process of being restocked being closed completely.
They should keep the one way system even after this is all over. And also introduce someone going round with a big stick to beat people round the backs of the legs with if they stop for too long.
And who sticks to it? Subservients and nazis.
The three times I've been in, just about everyone.
The small co-op where I'm at is the same. One way, marked floors and only two at a time. Everyone else lines up outside and keeps their distance but in fairness it's very smooth running. You could go there now and get much of what you need which isn't bad given it's the only shop for miles on end.
Why is my local Waitrose out of eggs? Like surely that's just piss-poor management at this stage, no? Same with trying to buy my parents yeast for the past fortnight at every fucking store.
I go against the grain. I'm not going to long way round for some frozen veg. Plus you cut in front of the queuing aisle which is a much bigger sin, apparently.
I've heard that eggs and flour are the only things running out now because everyone is baking. I mean, fuck knows why, but apparently they are. I have enough stress as it is without believing that the way out is to attempt to make my own biscuits.
It seems to be a staple activity for those with children.
I go 1-2 times a week to Sainsburys and today was the first time they had any eggs (quite a lot) and flour (a couple of small bags of self-raising).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52212760
Alex Waugh, director general of Nabim, says the issue isn't being able to mill enough flour - but the lack of capacity to pack it into small bags for retailers.
Only around 4% of UK flour is sold through shops and supermarkets, according to the association. The majority is produced in bulk and delivered in tankers or bags of more than 16kg to bakeries or other food manufacturers.
The millers can't bag it fast enough to meet demand right now.
You're an almighty bellend.
No, the veg aisle is literally next to the queuing aisle. The arrows tell you to cut across but the cunt watching the line fucking halts you. They've botched it, basically. And if the aisle's empty, I'll do it.
Last edited by Shindig; 24-04-2020 at 06:46 PM.
M&S was serene.
I'm full time shopping at M&S now.
The M&S near me seems to have the longest queues of angry old people outside, but that's just Surrey for you I think.
You have space to breathe in Poundland. You still get crocked by three people fingering through the CDs and DVDs. Or Jimmy 8 Kids clogging the place up looking for egg cups but at least there's less people in general.
This Dominic Cummings story is a good one. He's got these mongoloids on strings.
Knobhead centrist columnist twitter exploding with THIS IS BIG fury whenever he does anything is class. It ain't your world, boys and girls.
It's the tension between him being an unqualified interloper and his apparent ability to sway the opinions of a room full of world-renowned eggheads that makes it, as if he's Yuri from Command & Conquer.
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