Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
They were well ahead of the game.
They were well ahead of the game.
I'm not sure this country is at all prepared for the reality which is going to be hundreds of old people dying per day of respiratory failure. I'm not saying shut the country down or stop anyone coming in - what's the point, when it's already here - but it's preposterous that 'social distancing' isn't already in place. I think they're just trying to buy time and avoid proper panic.
I have now just about got my supplies up to a level where I could lock down for a month (and am fully expecting to), but paracetomol is impossible to find, haven't found any for a week in several different supermarkets. Going to have a mooch down to the big Tesco and see if they have any. Bog roll is still going like mad as well, haven't seen any of that for a couple of days.
1400 people die on average on any give day in England and Wales. I bet most of them are old. Somehow we've coped up to now.
150,000 globally, of which 2/3rds are age-related.
Drop in the fucking ocean.
Classes cancelled for the rest of the semester.
It would be interesting to see how many are rubbed out every year by similar viruses that go largely unreported beyond the annual flu jab stuff.
My old man has the right idea, he's looking forward to getting through some of the stuff in their freezer most of which seems to have been accumulated without any prospect of ever being eaten.
I’m in the same boat. Masses of tins built up in the pantry presses and I might have to finally make a dent in them if we have to stay home soon.
Luckily I’ve 36 bottles just conditioned and another 20 litres just finished fermenting too.
lolA 100-year-old man has been discharged from hospital in China after recovering from coronavirus, according to state media.
The centenarian is the oldest person to have returned to health after being diagnosed with the disease, reported Xinhua news agency.
He was among more than 80 Covid-19 patients discharged on Saturday from a wing of Hubei Maternity and Child Health Care Hospital in Wuhan, the city where the outbreak began.
The man, who reportedly had underlying health conditions including Alzheimer’s disease, hypertension and heart failure, was admitted to hospital on 24 February.
They don't die of respiratory failure all at once, though. It's more about morale and optics than stats.
So my friend who was showing some of the symptoms but from his call with 111 because he's not been in contact with someone who has it (how do you determine that?) or been to a high risk country he's not got it. Seems robust.
I bet a fair chunk of them do (I'm sure pneumonia is the end game for loads of people with all sorts of problems), more than covid has seen the back of anyway today, yesterday and tomorrow. It's going to have to mount some kind of serious comeback to get on parity.
People are more afraid of poisonous snakes or spiders than they are bears. People are stupid. Poison and disease eats at the mind in a way that more mundane, but much more existential danger doesn't.
People aren't afraid of bears because for most of us there's bugger all chance of coming into contact with one.
In a similar way that people aren't scared of being stranded in space without a spacesuit.
You can see bears coming. They're big and furry. The unseen threat is obviously scarier, hence why horror movies are not just two hours of people running away from Baloo.
Yes, the human mind is drawn to the irrational/inexplicable.
That was my point.
Apparently if you're off 3 times in 12 months at my workplace, you get a verbal warning. In November I was off twice in one week, after going back in on Wednesday but chucking up in the evening, and calling in sick for the rest of the week. If I get a verbal warning for being made to stay off cos of Coronavirus, I'm gonna seethe.
I'm a twit
I assume they run off that points system (is it the Bradford system?) where it's benificial to take more time off rather than the odd day. You'll be fine. I've only ever seen complete piss-takers given the talk.
A verbal warning for what?
Some of the more useless women at my company are off about 5-8 times a year, they would get rinsed in that system.
They use a system at my spot that is very prone to abuse where people have their next 'free' sick periods marked in their diaries. Also as said encourages people in danger of breaking the criteria to say fuck it and go off for weeks instead of days.
Yeah when I had my “back to work” interview and was told it counted as two bouts of absence I said well next time I’ll just have two weeks off to make sure I’ve shifted it which was ignored.
I'm a twit
They operate a similar system at our work. I don't know if you get any sort of warning, but I know if you're off three times in a rolling twelve months in flags up on something and gets looked at. Which is obviously complete bollocks.
Their rule is also three "periods of absence". So they don't differentiate between, for example, a single day off throwing up or two months off work with stress. They both count as "one". Which has led to this this ridiculous "fuck you" culture where nobody takes a single day off work. It's like this unwritten rule that if you get poorly you might as well "make it count" and take the whole week.
We also told a lady who went to Italy last week not to come to work for two weeks today. She was in yesterday (she was fine) and I spent most of the day sat next to her. So I'm potentially doomed.
Yeah, my work is the same.
I see the health secretary has tested positive - hopefully wipes out the whole Conservative Party
Apparently a load of the other companies in my building have started having everyone working from home. We might be doing so as of next week. In the meantime we're to take our laptops home every night in case we get a call saying the building is closed.
My company will be the fucking last to respond to any of it. The managing director was still strutting around earlier saying it's an over-reaction. Us in sales should be working from home already. The boys lugging bits of metal around out back, well, I don't know how you avoid making them come in.
Our big Italian supplier told us they are still fully operational and carrying on as if nothing was happening. It's such an old school industry. I suppose that is inevitable when your business is to keep running 40 and 50 year old engines.
Talk about locking down Sydney. We are very lucky that summer is 6 months long these days. Darwin has 1 case so far.
She has also met Johnson in this time, gone to the Houses of Parliament and Boris has been to see Her Maj. Might be Bank Holiday time soon...
That's the best way to test this. Give it to the Queen. If she survives it's all back to work and what a load of shit, if she dies then the period of mourning can be used for 2 weeks of isolation for everyone.
As if you'd manage to keep the British serfs off the streets for the funeral.
I see there's been a case at Cheltenham. That'll be more of it arriving back on the island of Ireland next week then.
Right, back to the numbers of people expected to get it, I don't get this.
From this article, there's this quote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-51632801The expectation is that the proportion of people infected could be down at around 20%, perhaps even less, if the measures work.
There's only 80,000 people in China with it, or less than 0.1% of their population, so why would fewer than 12 million people infected with it by the time we hit summer be a good result in the UK?
Have I misread that? If not, what are we not being told?
She had been feeling ill since last Friday. What an absolute fanny.
China says it is doing 6000 tests per day at full capacity. Even if it had been doing that for 2 months. That’s 360 thousand tests and a quarter of those results are positive.
For perspective, around 70% of over 65s and 30% of the remaining uk population get some form of the flu each year.
Thursday but still went to a Downing Street event...
She then decided to self-isolate on Friday.
Vietnam pretty much on lockdown now. No new non-essential visas are being issued. There are barely any tourists here at all, the city is dead.
Queensland is still at zero for community transmission.
Come on school closures! 3/4 week Easter holiday
Although less so if they make us teach via Skype which a lot of international schools have been doing :/ .
City v Arsenal postponed...
Well, that's a shit attitude to have.Sealing Germany's borders to prevent the spread of the virus will not work, the country's Health Minister Jens Spahn said on Wednesday.
He rejected calls to follow its neighbour Austria - which now denies entry to visitors from Italy.
"The virus is in Germany, it is in Europe. That's the thought we have to get used to," he told local radio station Deutschlandfunk radio, reported Reuters.
"It will still spread even if you close all the borders. Sooner or later you have to let people in or out and then it starts spreading again."
Are you still convinced this isn't rife Jimmy? 370 odd cases? Somehow spread across the whole nation, not isolated to a community and somehow affecting football club chairmen and politicians.
I bet that's not even 10% of the actual number.
I mean, our test results indicate otherwise.
They're barely testing. How would you go about getting distribution of such a small number across the UK? Are we doing some kind of coughing relay where it's handed over at the border of each county?
Queensland Health is doing an amazing job with the help of private pathology.
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nat...07-p53yv3.html
Last edited by Queenslander; 11-03-2020 at 08:01 AM.
Spikey’s bang on here, and that’s what they’re not telling us, because they don’t actually know. The 400 has to be a mere fraction.
In terms of spreading, 370 cases in the UK could easily be people returning from China & Italy to different places, no?
But then again - It probably is commonly spread in most places by now. Then that just means the virus is less dangerous than what they say, if that is the case, cause a lot of people have it and mistake it for a cold.
I seriously still don't get it. It is just like any other cold or flu - if you get sick, stay the fuck home. It's always been common sense. Washing your hands in the loo and occasionally outside it as well, by the way.
And just like with any illness - if you feel like you are dying because you can't breathe well or whatever, THEN you call the ambulance.
The problem here and the reason governments have to take such measures is because of two things:
- they don't want half of a country to be home with a cold at the same time (bad for economy)
- too many people flood the emergency rooms with mild symptoms because they think they might die before they are actually displaying any signs of emergency.
Mate, this is no place for reason.
Now go out and knife someone for a four-pack of loo-roll.
I note Offy not representing for the infected Jersey populace anymore.
It is just like any cold or flu except it has a significantly higher mortality rate.
34 wasnt it?
3.4, bit of a difference.
It's only a full stop. Grammar Nazi.
We are being told 34 times the mortality rate of common flu
Last edited by Queenslander; 11-03-2020 at 11:04 AM.
So not like any cold or flu then.
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