I just find it amazing that had China been locked down early doors this would have been much easier to contain than it is now, where ironically the general response of locking things down has now been applied.Originally Posted by Giggles
Honestly, this is why the movement towards ignoring 'experts' is happening. When they come out with obvious bullshit, why would anyone believe them?
Possibly. It does say only 18 recoveries here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020...eak_in_Germany
Yeah, the cases started on the 24th Feb, 2 weeks ago. They'll be having some deaths soon.
Korea is the one to look at. It's been there for ages, and at time of going to press killed 50 from 7,313. In Italy it's killed 366 from almost exactly the same number of cases. Deaths are going to be recorded in both those countries, so who do you think is better at capturing the true number of cases.
Every other country is being infected via Italy as well (even ones next to China). They have, like China and to a far greater extent than Korea, obviously let it get way out of control at a very early stage. Other countries need to learn from this.
Personally I think we're in a solid position here in the UK, being a load of standoffish protestants to begin with. Italy is founded upon extended families gathering together every day.
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I know you've been reading a lot Jim, how have Italy fucked this so hard?
The trick is to look after yourself and anyone you give a shit about and leave it there. Governments (and therefore experts) only look on this as an opportunity to get rid of a load of pensions.
Because most of their population look like a tanned version of my ballsack because they’re 80.
I guarantee you that that won't be the answer Jim comes back with.
My best guess is some balance of the below three things:
1) Bad luck (the virus must have got in from China very early, before people were really on full alert for this, and gone around big time before they were)
2) Chaotic government and dogshit decision-making (as afflicts Italy in all arenas)
3) What I said above about the fact that it's a culture based around extended families staying together, constantly visiting each other etc. Italian men typically stay living with the parents until marriage or even their parents' death. They kiss for greetings, they go out and meet people and have coffee together, like, every day. It's a far more social culture than ours. That can't help at all.
And they clearly don't wash.
Case in point, the wankers all making a break for home before the lockdown could be in effect.
Are the skiing regions on lockdown? A bloke I work with flew over there on Friday and he has the worst luck with holidays ever.
I read that the ski resorts were closing (although I don't know if that means some ski resorts, or all of them).
We'll all be on lockdown within a fortnight so I wouldn't worry.
I... errr ... hope not.
As Mellin mentioned, there's an absolute killing to be made on the stock market over this.
I've halted work on my house to keep the savings free to go balls deep when we hit lockdown.
Get the pasta in.
There was talk the other day of all 'non-essential staff' (like me) being barred from the naval base should the government step up its pointless panic measures. I could go work with my uncle and get two wages for the duration.
I’ve got a sore throat.
I don't know if I'm hungover or feverish. Wfh begins.
What are we actually meant to do of we come down with a cold? Are we actually meant to be taking 2 weeks off just in case?
My work has said to have it checked officially and if confirmed stay at home (obviously).
How do you go about getting it checked? Call 111 and they send someone round? That'll take longer than the 2 week self-isolation they demand anyway.
I guess that's the protocol? I should ask the woman in the downstairs office who was tested.
It's something along the lines of:
1. DO NOT GO TO SEE YOUR GP OR ANY OTHER MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
2. Phone 111
3. ???
4. Survive
If your symptoms match then 111 will refer you for a test, the advice against going to GP's is for all the schlubs who just have a cold (hi Lewis) so they don't clog up the system or worse expose themselves to someone who actually has it.
Surely it's also that if they do have it they don't give it to other people.
Which is great, and step 4 is the obvious end goal, but it's clear as mud. I can't get to the bottom of what I'm actually meant to do if I wake up with a sniffle tomorrow.
I imagine DO NOT GO TO WORK... JUST IN CASE will be in there somewhere, but it's completely unrealistic when people have additional worries like 'I don't get sick pay' and 'I have a Mortgage' to worry about.
If I woke up feeling ill-but-not-too-ill, I would call in and say I wasn't sure so offer to work from home. If they said NOT A CHANCE COME IN HERE RIGHT NOW then, well, I don't know really.
Call 111.
We only get sick pay on discretion but there's 1300 staff and a bit of a situation developing. We can't work from home for obvious reasons but they can't be paying us all to stay away and do nothing.
There's been dialogue of people purposefully coming in and spreading it around if we get a case, should they refuse to pay people in full.
Yep. This is why our office becomes cough central. If it's not bad enough to bed you, you're coming in. The American attitude seems more tuned towards the opposite which might actually do them some favours.
Fuck me. Imagine if someone did that and some fucker dies. That's a bold strategy.
OMG Yev a 60 yr old (who had "significant" underlying health problems) has just carked it having come back from Italy.
OMG. Yev, a 60 yr old...
Only one decade from worry.
3 for me
RIP Yev. Crazy to think he was posting from the plane just minutes ago.
I do wish they kept up the regional statistics of this and how many cases are coming back from travel. It's just numbers now rather than data. The South Koreans name them which is .... a step too far.
This might be hard to believe, but I'm still in my 30s, so same risk category as all of you fuckers.
It's all part of the 24 hour news circus. Same reason why you have 'Infected' and 'Died' readily available but 'recovered' isn't reported.
Did a quick calculation of our tested to cases ratio. 1.2% of tested people give out positive results. Probably because just a fraction will be those close contacts of confirmed cases they need to track down.
I'm meant to be going to Prague at the end of April. My odds of those flights still operating are dropping by the day.
Hat-trick netted in the UK.
I rate my chances of going to the Algarve on 28 March as <5%, but everyone else on the trip seems to think it will be fine. Either I am a significantly better forecaster than them, or I'm a walking Daily Express.
If the guy I work with did get out of the country I'm not sure he's getting back in again...
I feel Croatia in June is a bit of a pipe dream for us right now.
Poland for a week at the end of the month and then somewhere hot for a week and a half (likely Cuba or Dominican Republic).
Chances?
It's going to be a bloodbath this week. The Dow's collapsing and oil's completely tanked. I'd be looking at it now. Don't buy a thing. Short.
Stocks! Please @ me when to buy what, if it means I’ll get some money.
I'm a twit
Slim for Poland, odds on for the other one. Unless it really crushes Florida.
Having been stuck on 16 cases for three weeks, some dim rich bird returned from Italy and didn't tell the authorities. She proceeded to contract herself and then spread to her sisters, her driver and maid. Now upto 31.
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