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    Like when it had already been debunked about the MMR Wakefield stuff but the news just ran and ran with it because it did numbers.

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    Pretty much, and again with that YouTube doctor that started out reviewing the Covid data with genuine insight, before pivoting to conspiracy nonsense because the conspiracy spergs are the only ones thinking about Covid 4 years down the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Pretty much, and again with that YouTube doctor that started out reviewing the Covid data with genuine insight, before pivoting to conspiracy nonsense because the conspiracy spergs are the only ones thinking about Covid 4 years down the line.
    He's pivoted to conspiracy stuff because it's what gets views and branched out from solely focusing on Covid a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Pretty much, and again with that YouTube doctor that started out reviewing the Covid data with genuine insight, before pivoting to conspiracy nonsense because the conspiracy spergs are the only ones thinking about Covid 4 years down the line.
    Nurse.

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    Touchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Touchy.
    We've got enough of our own nutters without adopting them from other professions.

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    Who wouldn’t love another lockdown, glorious days!

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    The roads during that first month.

    Bulleting to work on the A roads with not a soul in sight.

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    I could go for a bit of that again in fairness. Traffic was a dream.

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    Walking down the A690 never felt so serene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Nurse.
    Dr John Campbell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lofty View Post
    Dr John Campbell?
    It's a PhD doctorate. Which I suppose was the first clue that the guy was a chancer as he was more than happy to let people think otherwise.

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    It's not like you even need an actual PhD to be going about doctoring things up, you can get a novelty purposes only one.

    the BBC has discovered Mr Scott is not medically trained. He said he "naively and regretfully" bought an honorary doctorate in business consultancy online and displayed the certificate in his clinic.
    "naively and regretfully"



    Come on mate.

    I never really understand why those things, and stuff like Lord of the Manor of wankever exist, other than as both a scam themselves, and a way for others to use them in scams. Like fake IDs, but I assume there aren't businesses that actually sell those over the counter.

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    One of my old tenants was a "doctor". Went round to do a home visit, stacks of porn sat on the coffee table, a "collection" - hoarding - of empty coffee jars and a cat litter tray that hadn't been emptied in months.

    Riddled with the tism. Thankfully he moved to Wales and he's someone else's problem now.

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    I think I was registered as a Reverend of some church years back.

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    Nonce.

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    Can you marry people Giggs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niko_cee View Post
    It's not like you even need an actual PhD to be going about doctoring things up, you can get a novelty purposes only one.



    "naively and regretfully"



    Come on mate.

    I never really understand why those things, and stuff like Lord of the Manor of wankever exist, other than as both a scam themselves, and a way for others to use them in scams. Like fake IDs, but I assume there aren't businesses that actually sell those over the counter.
    Plenty of PAs and nurse practitioners doing this in the NHS to mislead patients. It's crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Plenty of PAs and nurse practitioners doing this in the NHS to mislead patients. It's crazy.
    How is that even legal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Can you marry people Giggs?
    I probably could in some of those mad American states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    How is that even legal?
    Because doctor is not a protected term in law.

    "Hi I'm Dr Smith, one of the medical team".

    Patients will assume the person is a medical doctor, the person introducing themselves has successfully misled the patient without doing anything strictly illegal.

    There's a lot more complexity to the issue, but the summary is the government (via NHSE and the GMC) have been actively supporting this replacement of doctors by non-doctors and protecting non-doctors who mislead patients in this way through their abject refusal to take action and set clear rules or scope of practice.

    I'm telling you it's a fucking scandal.
    Last edited by randomlegend; 10-01-2025 at 01:25 PM.

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    It certainly sounds like one. I'd say you should whistleblow, but you'd only end up unemployed with nothing else changing whatsoever.

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    The whistle is being blown loudly and continuously. Nobody cares. There's slow progress through some of the medical colleges, but from government/NHSE/GMC side they are entirely complicit.

    In terms of the public, the message is I think slowly getting out there due to the work of some decent journalists, but I think it's quite a hard issue for people to really understand. Given how shit everything is I think it's also hard for people to allocate much energy to caring. It also comes across as doctor elitism/protectionism to a lot of people.
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    Occupational licensing is a racket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe View Post
    Occupational licensing is a racket.
    Don't even get me started on the GMC, fucking hell. A more corrupt, racist, malicious organisation you will not find.

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    I might get myself a doctorate.

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    I'll sell you mine.

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    Not sure it's worth anything, given that it's second hand.

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    It's like new though. Never even framed it. Still in the envelope it came in.

    Come to think of it, I don't even know where it is.

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    Come and work for the NHS Pepe.

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    They need a new word either for the medical doctors or for the non-medical ones.

    I for one vote that medical doctors should now be known as boctor.

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    Just to double down on the retarded titles, a surgeon is simply a "Mister".

    I for one vote that surgeons should now be known as Fister.

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    Isn't 'Mister' for consultants?

    Is Mrs the female equivalent? It's a bit of a daft system, but then that appears everywhere. You can be a 60 year old 'junior' barrister if you never get KC'd for example, I think. A senior junior.

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    Dunno. It's a stupid title for whatever they are, anyway.

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    Mr/Mrs is for surgeons, generally I think they start using it post college membership exams.

    Medics remain as Dr (even as consultants).

    Physician and surgeon are a legally protected titles, as is "Doctor of Medicine". Apothecary as well, but technically I think that would refer to pharmacists.

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    Interesting, always thought it was consultants in general, but then the only ones I know are obstetricians, and they have always been called Mr/Mrs, but then I guess they do perform surgery.

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    Yeah obs and gynae is a bit of an unusual speciality in that it very much has both medical and surgical parts to it. But yes, they do indeed call themselves Mr/Mrs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Come and work for the NHS Pepe.
    I reckon that I could, armed with ChatGPT, do a better job than the vast majority of the current lot.

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    Saw some guy in ASDA car park today, after loading his shopping into his boot he started spraying disinfectant all over the bags/items in said bags.

    This whole thing really did break some people.

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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...9qjjj4zy5o.amp

    Confirmation that the kung flu likely came from a lab in Wuhan, China.

    Would love to read back some of the comments in this thread when people were getting emotional about this claim, amongst all the other bat shit crazy guidelines.

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    Did you even read beyond the headline?

    But the intelligence agency cautioned it had "low confidence" in this determination.
    Not even the Trump stooge spouting this is prepared to put any weight behind it. Wonder why Trump's government might suddenly be claiming this now?

    You are thick as shit. Like fucking hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dquincy View Post
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...9qjjj4zy5o.amp

    Confirmation that the kung flu likely came from a lab in Wuhan, China.

    Would love to read back some of the comments in this thread when people were getting emotional about this claim, amongst all the other bat shit crazy guidelines.
    Knew it. Thanks for the info Quincebear.

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    Without clicking on it wasn't that report made public ages ago?

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    It's funny how the evidence always "suggests" what the people making the claim would like it to. It was all but guaranteed to have made a natural leap a few months back.

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    Case closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomlegend View Post
    Did you even read beyond the headline?



    Not even the Trump stooge spouting this is prepared to put any weight behind it. Wonder why Trump's government might suddenly be claiming this now?

    You are thick as shit. Like fucking hell.
    I included the word "likely". What's wrong, your chubby eye lids affecting your reading ability?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dquincy View Post
    I included the word "likely". What's wrong, your chubby eye lids affecting your reading ability?
    Unlike you I have basic reading comprehension.

    "Low confidence" in intelligence community terminology means:

    Low confidence generally means questionable or implausible information was used, the information is too fragmented or poorly corroborated to make solid analytic inferences, or significant concerns or problems with sources existed.
    So no, even by their own definition, not "likely".

    "Confirmation" indeed.
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    It would reflect a lack of conclusive proof (not a surprise given the environment), but it suggests that generally speaking they find it a more plausible explanation than AIDS magically sprouting out of the one dirty shit market amongst thousands that just happens to be right next to the biggest AIDS factory in the world.

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    Whilst scientists in the field still think it's more likely it came from animals based on genomic analysis.

    An intelligence organisation stating they think something is more plausible with "low confidence" is not "confirmation" of anything.

    There's nothing "magic" about viruses occasionally passing from animals to humans. In an environment like the market covid is postulated to have come from, it is more a case of when such a jump will happen than if. It's just as big an "aids factory" as the lab, to be honest.
    Last edited by randomlegend; 12-02-2025 at 10:02 PM.

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    We will almost certainly never know either way, but as far as conspiracy theories go, I think "Covid came from that lab" is a pretty compelling one.

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