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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Mate, filthy bastards gonna filthy bastard. They still aren't washing their hands, kids still aren't social distancing, older kids are still having house parties, sloots still slooting. Open the clubs.
    Do you seriously think we're dealing with this no better than we were in Jan-Mar? Seriously?

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    Maybe slightly, but if it was as fucked as they say it would still be brutal. It isn't, so let's move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post


    It was more of a sarcastic Twitter type response.
    Ok. Well those people are idiots and idiots are gonna idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Maybe slightly, but if it was as fucked as they say it would still be brutal. It isn't, so let's move on.
    Agree completely. The nice thing about this virus is that the lag between cases and deaths means you get ample time to adjust things if it looks like it's getting bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    At this stage, it seems fairly clear the second wave is on course to happen along the same lines as the first so to take measures before we get to the Thursday group pot-banging stage makes sense.

    That's not me doing an Odemwingie parked outside Team Panic's stadium btw, I'm just saying let's let go of the 'second wave isn't even a thing' line and all get behind the 'you're all a bunch of melts' line.
    Yeah, my stance has changed since calling it mental yesterday. If we can lockdown for a few weeks now to get the R back down, then that's preferable to following the extended lockdown of the first wave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Yeah, my stance has changed since calling it mental yesterday. If we can lockdown for a few weeks now to get the R back down, then that's preferable to following the extended lockdown of the first wave.
    And keep doing so ad infinitum...great idea!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    And keep doing so ad infinitum...great idea!!!
    You're a fan of letting it get out of hand and doing a full-scale lockdown for 3 months again then?

    Yes. A short-term mild lockdown is better than a long-term full-scale one. Why is that controversial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    You're a fan of letting it get out of hand and doing a full-scale lockdown for 3 months again then?

    Yes. A short-term mild lockdown is better than a long-term full-scale one. Why is that controversial?
    No, let it 'get out of hand' as in hardly do anything and just continue as normal.

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    Ah, the 'kill the pensioners' route. Apologies, I forgot you were a psychopath for a moment there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    Ah, the 'kill the pensioners' route. Apologies, I forgot you were a psychopath for a moment there.
    They're already dead m8 lol.

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    Thank god I live in a country that actually locked down when it should have. And then again when the second wave hit.

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    Precautionary measures ("rule of six", tightening restrictions or partial lockdowns at a lower level) need to be taken now while we assess whether the recent increase in cases translates to more hospital admissions and more deaths. If deaths remain reasonably low in a couple of weeks time, then we can ease the restrictions again and start the slow process of returning to normal.

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    The halcyon days of April when I was practising for the Hatzenbach down Chertsey Bridge Road each 8am are sadly no longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevrah View Post
    Do you seriously think we're dealing with this no better than we were in Jan-Mar? Seriously?
    We're 'dealing with it' (in the holistic sense) much worse, seeing as everything we've learnt since March suggests that the initial strategy was the best one all along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    We're 'dealing with it' (in the holistic sense) much worse, seeing as everything we've learnt since March suggests that the initial strategy was the best one all along.
    It really wasn't, but we're never going to agree on that, are we?

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    The longer we piss about with the lockdown-cokey the more obvious it becomes.

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    The two aren't mutually exclusive.

    It was perfectly possible to lock down earlier than we did and still not go overboard now, which I don't think we have just yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic View Post
    Think we need to lose the notion that lockdown meant everyone stayed inside and didn't even open their curtains, maybe for 2 months movements were "severely" restricted, however cunts were still piling in to fucking massive shops, takeaways, queueing for shit etc.
    They had literal queues and door staff in place to prevent that.

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    What the fuck.

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    Not related to the content at all, but it seems almost compulsory to include the obligatory "close up of young persons hand holding old persons hand" picture when reporting anything to do with care homes now. Just something I've noticed over the last couple of months.

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    And not a black hand in sight. Have we not learnt anything. #BLM

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    It's an NHS nurse pinching their jewellery.

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    Okay, so the council bloke mentioned pubs and sports were bringing the cases up. So ... is closing pubs at 10pm going to .... make a difference?

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    Nope.
    I'm a twit

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    White NHS nurses, good one Lewis.

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    They're shutting every restaurant and food pub down in Dublin because of all the clusters that have came because of house parties

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    Two weeks into term and they’ve decided parents and should wear masks during the school drop off, as should any staff out meeting the kids. I suggested this on day one and was told it wasn’t necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    White NHS nurses, good one Lewis.
    All the non-white ones died because of racist PPE allocation.

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    BBC News are doing a piece on French intensive care units in 5 or so minutes. Be nice to put a blurred out dying fatty's face to the graph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggles View Post
    They're shutting every restaurant and food pub down in Dublin because of all the clusters that have came because of house parties
    In free countries you can't police house parties, so you just police what you can police instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd View Post
    In free countries you can't police house parties, so you just police what you can police instead.
    Maybe a regulated alternative to a house party might be handy though.

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    Brav, BBC just said Sweden ain't taking any measures, not wearing masks and holding regular swinger parties in their saunas and no waves whatsoever there. Get the fucking clubs open.

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    The Swedes constitutionally couldn't lockdown. Instead, the sensible Swedish people social distance on a voluntary basis. Sweden are a bunch of good boys and girls.

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    Listen, mate, I'm not having those rehashed lines. Having said that, this all seems like a re-run of wave 1 so they'll probs hit a higher than average death rate again in a few weeks.

    First 25 minutes of news was on coronavirus. Led to me having one of those 'is this really happening?' moments of reflection.

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    There's some paedo-looking geezer on QT reading out Yev's posts.

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    Sweden has done exactly what we were doing until we BOTTLED IT, and they're going to lol through the next year whilst we cower inside waiting for a vaccine.

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    Sweden has a population of 10 million. London has 9 millions on it's own. Let's not embarras ourselves.

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    Yeah, and more people would have died. But I think they should be about ninety thousand deaths into it by now according to the models that made our government change course, which they obviously aren't.

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    You think that based on what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Sweden has done exactly what we were doing until we BOTTLED IT, and they're going to lol through the next year whilst we cower inside waiting for a vaccine.
    I wonder if the 1st lockdown helped saved many lives, or has it just postponed their deaths for the 2nd wave? Ergo, we should have just let it run wild in the first place (to a certain degree; i.e. doing something softer than a national lockdown). It's food for thought.

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    Our excess death numbers have always weirded me out. It's a huge chunk that hasn't gone down as covid deaths. Did the other 20,000 pull a Jonestown between January and March?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey M View Post
    You think that based on what?
    Swedish attempts at replicating it:

    We employed an individual agent-based model based on work by Ferguson et al. Individual-based models are increasingly used to model epidemic spread with explicit representation of demographic and spatial factors such as population distribution, workplace data, school data, and mobility... This individual-based modelling project predicts that with the current mitigation approach approximately 96,000 deaths (95% CI 52,000 to 183,000) can be expected before 1 July, 2020.

    There were a few people questioning him at the time but then he got sacked and people stopped caring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Brav, BBC just said Sweden ain't taking any measures, not wearing masks and holding regular swinger parties in their saunas and no waves whatsoever there. Get the fucking clubs open.
    Living in Stockholm you could’ve completely forgotten there’s a pandemic this whole time. The only reminders are the dots on the floor in front of every checkout line

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    Queensland has opened the borders up to . . . the ACT...

    Are we about to seize power? Can we rely on Vietnam in these uncertain times?
    Last edited by Queenslander; 18-09-2020 at 07:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Swedish attempts at replicating it:

    We employed an individual agent-based model based on work by Ferguson et al. Individual-based models are increasingly used to model epidemic spread with explicit representation of demographic and spatial factors such as population distribution, workplace data, school data, and mobility... This individual-based modelling project predicts that with the current mitigation approach approximately 96,000 deaths (95% CI 52,000 to 183,000) can be expected before 1 July, 2020.

    There were a few people questioning him at the time but then he got sacked and people stopped caring.
    We are a densely populated country, they - outside of Stockholm - are a few shacks stuck on some perma-frost.

    But looking at Stockholm, 23000 cases and 2000 deaths? Either something is wrong with their numbers or something is wrong with their hospitals.

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    To contain this you either need to be a sparsely populated country (or with polarised population centres like Australia), or you need to have a state-society relationship that gives consent to extreme restrictions on individual liberty, or both. Britain, France, Spain, northern Italy, America... absolutely no chance, let alone the likes of Brazil, Peru and Mexico. In fact, most of South America seems to have gone past Europe now in terms of deaths per pop.

    Germany have probably got away with it due to having an unbelievably well-organised testing system and the fact that they are hard wired to follow rules. Neighbouring Belgium is a shitshow.

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    The Swedes are also turning on air travel so they probably don't import as many cases as the rest of Europe.

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    I saw we had more testing than the EU big boys (Germany included). I presume processing by 50 year old Janes and 25 year old Marks is where we're falling down.

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    The general consensus seems to be that we're falling down because they're counting the 3(?) swabs that make up 1 test as 3 separate tests.

    But I don't know if that's actually true, because the test they sent me only had 1 swab. Perhaps the ones they do at the test sites are different?

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